[01:26:20] 10Quarry: Quarry should preserve the protocol on redirects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92600#2258455 (10Huji) 05Open>03declined Somehow in the last two weeks this is working correctly. Not sure if Yuvi_Panda has applied a patch that fixed this, or if its dependencies are updated. At any rate, I will... [01:50:37] 10Quarry: Quarry should preserve the protocol on redirects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92600#1115720 (10Legoktm) Probably was fixed by {T107627}? [12:20:28] halfak: seen http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10676-016-9399-8 ? [12:23:12] ...interestingly he seems to reject the argument we were talking about: [12:23:18] "The only imaginable harm is that patrollers become over focussed on anons and indulge in what I called above ‘overinspection’ of such edits and wrongly classify them as vandalism [...] As a consequence, they might never contribute to Wikipedia again. [...] Nevertheless, I estimate this harm to be small. At any rate, the harm involved would seem to be [12:23:19] small in comparison with the harassment of racial profiling—let alone that an ‘expressive harm hypothesis’ applies." [12:24:33] ...instead his argument is based on this: " From the very beginning the Wikipedian community has operated on the basis of a ‘social contract’ that makes no distinction between anons and non-anons—all are citizens of equal stature. " [12:24:44] {{citation needed}} [12:25:16] otherwise it looks like a really well-read / well-informed paper [14:25:42] HaeB, yeah. I've been talking to Paul about this stuff. I didn't know he went off and wrote a paper about it. [14:26:07] No citation. No ack. [14:26:10] What a bastarf [14:28:50] God damn. He's making the argument that I made in the Snuggle paper published two years ago and doesn't cite it! [14:28:52] Arg. [14:30:13] "anonymity feature is a sensitive category" I fucking said this in an email to him and showed him my preliminary analysis. [14:30:19] * halfak calms down [14:43:30] Maybe he write this before he started talking to me about it. [14:43:33] *wrote [15:52:16] halfak: yeah, i crtl-f-ed your name and was surprised there was nothing [15:52:26] ORES is mentioned very briefly though [16:15:44] It hurts that I'm going to need to cite this now. It's very much in the conversation of my work. :/ [16:15:57] I'm working on a paper re. ORES for a May 27th deadline [16:16:11] And a big part of that is going to be the study of anonymous disparity. [16:16:37] Oh! I should review this for the newsletter. I'm going to need to read & summarize as part of my own process anyway. [16:18:45] * YuviPanda provides hugs to halfak [18:33:16] Biking to the University Back in ~40 mins [18:33:19] o/ [18:36:02] hey halfak [18:36:11] I know Bob is not coming, is the check in with Diyi still happening? [18:38:08] Negative [18:38:21] Diyi will send an update over email. [18:38:36] I'm just about to bike to the University (makeup for last Friday) [18:38:39] Back in ~40 mins [18:39:03] ah got it [18:39:15] sounds good, safe ride [19:49:08] O/ [19:49:21] Forgot my laptop charger. Am on phone [20:00:20] * halfak|Mobile works with kjschiroo on new productivity analysis [22:01:07] 10Quarry, 10AutoWikiBrowser, 07WorkType-Maintenance: Quarry run result in AWB make list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134141#2261977 (10Reedy) Yeah, dealing with UTF-8 isn't an issue whatsoever