[13:51:19] <kjschiroo>	 halfak, do you know who nborwankar is? He is the current owner of /wikimedia_data on altiscale. We should change the permissions on it so that it makes sense as the default download location and so joal and I don't download the same dumps multiple times.
[13:57:17] <halfak>	 kjschiroo, nbprwankar is no longer working on the cluster AFAICT. 
[13:57:24] <halfak>	 I don't think that we should use that dir.  
[13:57:28] <halfak>	 I'd rather use /wmf/data
[13:57:32] <halfak>	 Or something like that. 
[13:59:55] <kjschiroo>	  /wmf isn't on hdfs though. What about creating /hdfs/wmf?
[14:02:04] <halfak>	 Oh yeah.  I think that is a good idea. 
[14:02:12] <halfak>	 I don't think I can change perms on HDFS anyway. 
[14:06:24] <kjschiroo>	 halfak, why wouldn't you be able to change perms? 
[14:06:34] <halfak>	 HDFS is weird.  I can look into it. 
[14:08:10] <kjschiroo>	 halfak, I'm not able to create a directory in /hdfs/. I was going to ask you to see if you can sudo it and then change perms. If you can't I can open up a ticket. I'll also open up an issue to change the default location in the research-cluster code.
[14:08:57] <halfak>	  /hdfs is a read only mount. 
[14:09:09] <halfak>	 you'll need to create the dir with `hfds dfs`
[14:11:04] <kjschiroo>	 Yep, I tried that way `hdfs dfs -mkdir /wmf` I said `/hdfs/` to be clear about which root directory I was trying to put it in. I can see how that would be confusing.
[14:17:13] <halfak>	 Hmm... Looks like I don't have perms either. 
[14:17:31] <halfak>	 I'd file a ticket. 
[14:20:12] <kjschiroo>	 will do
[14:47:57] <halfak>	 o/ YuviPanda 
[14:48:05] <halfak>	 Had a chance to set up that wikibase instance yet?
[15:15:26] <YuviPanda>	 halfak: yeah, there's one at pawsbase.wmflabs.org but it is running into some issues that I was exploring with bd808
[15:15:38] <YuviPanda>	 halfak: about to get on a flight just now tho. I'll try to get it sorted before end of this week
[15:15:39] <halfak>	 Gotcha.  Thanks for the update. 
[15:15:49] <halfak>	 kk have a good flight!
[15:16:27] <YuviPanda>	 halfak: is that timeline good enough?
[15:19:14] <halfak>	 Sure is.  Thanks :) 
[16:03:07] <kjschiroo>	 halfak, to setup /wmf on hdfs you need to su hdfs and run it.
[16:13:30] <halfak>	 Oh!
[16:13:38] <halfak>	 kjschiroo, still need me to do that?
[16:14:05] <halfak>	 lol sudo can't find hdfs
[16:15:00] <kjschiroo>	 halfak, it can't identify it as a user?
[16:15:24] <halfak>	 No it's more that it couldn't find the HDFS utility
[16:15:34] <halfak>	 But now I've got a new permission error with superuser
[16:15:42] <halfak>	 "Permission denied: user=root, access=WRITE, inode="/":hdfs:supergroup:drwxr-xr-x"
[16:16:37] <kjschiroo>	 I'm sending you the ticket
[16:16:52] <kjschiroo>	 Wait, are you acting as the hdfs user in that command?
[16:17:07] <halfak>	 Oh!  I see what you mean.  let me try that
[16:17:33] <halfak>	 Aha!
[16:19:04] <kjschiroo>	 Great! Should we make a group for writing to it or should we just have it be user group writable?
[16:30:44] <halfak>	 I think I'll just open up the perms. 
[16:30:48] <halfak>	 We're wikimedia after all ;) 
[16:31:26] <halfak>	 Done!
[16:31:31] <halfak>	 kjschiroo, ^ 
[16:31:48] <kjschiroo>	 Great!
[16:41:10] <DarTar>	 morning folks
[21:41:28] <J-Mo>	 hey YuviPanda. Finally planning to introduce PAWS to the students. Will happen next Monday, 5/16 Any issues I should know about? 
[21:43:16] <J-Mo>	 I plan to have them create Wikipedia accounts before class, but realistically some of them will just create their account during my demo. Then, I'll instruct them to go to paws.wmflabs.org and start their servers. Do you anticipate any problems with that? 
[21:49:44] <YuviPanda>	 J-Mo: should be ok!
[21:49:55] <YuviPanda>	 J-Mo: I'll be in a stable location (on the east coast!) so can monitor
[21:50:11] <J-Mo>	 cool cool. and to confirm: no more issues with "special" chars in usernames?
[21:51:26] <J-Mo>	 ^^YuviPanda
[21:51:38] <YuviPanda>	 J-Mo: nope. I think fully unicode (non-latin usernames) have problems, but given your location I suspect it isn't a problem
[21:51:43] <YuviPanda>	 special chars are fine
[21:51:51] <J-Mo>	 perfect! thanks dude.
[21:51:55] <YuviPanda>	 J-Mo: np
[22:00:10] <YuviPanda>	 J-Mo: I probably will have 0 time to help with reflex in any way or form, though. sorry.
[22:10:31] <J-Mo>	 that's actually helpful to know, YuviPanda. I wasn't particularly enthusiastic about doing forensic archeology on some mystery code abandoned over a year ago, so I'll use your business as an excuse to sideline that project until Abbey's back from her trips ;)
[22:10:44] <YuviPanda>	 J-Mo: :) ok!
[22:27:54] <YuviPanda>	 halfak: the main page doesn't work, but rest should kinda work http://wikidata-pawsbase.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page
[22:31:49] <YuviPanda>	 on fixing the main page: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128466#2282710