[01:14:39] hi all, I'm trying to get feedback on a proposal for research-driven approach to counter-harassment: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/I_School_Challenge_for_Countering_Online_Harassment [01:15:14] I'm also writing something up for wiki-research-l list, but if anyone has comments or suggestions here, I'd appreciate it [16:34:13] lzia, o/ [16:34:15] Staff! [18:38:15] hey halfak. sorry. I just saw your message from earlier. I had already said no to the meeting per the discussions in the thread. [18:38:24] didn't realize it's actually going to happen. [18:38:54] lzia, ahh yes. Per discussion in same thread ;) [18:39:07] yeah, saw that later. ;) [18:39:22] But no worries. Biggest news is that we're going to try to move the showcase to 5th floor so that OIT can have an easier time with audio support. [18:39:24] I signed off after you said you will talk about your item in the week after. ;) [18:40:10] sure. just fyi, we moved it to a room from the 5th floor space, because the attendance is not huge, and that room can be quite intimidating and not so exciting when it's empty. :D [18:40:50] especially for the outside speakers, the rooms give the impression that we expected 200 people, but unfortunately only 4 showed up (which is not the case). ;) [18:41:03] the 5th floor room, I mean. [18:41:29] lzia, my thought as well. [18:41:49] But brendan_campbell insisted and it'll be nice to have (1) better audio and (2) easier work for brendan_campbell [18:42:28] something to talk to Dario about, halfak, given the past discussions. [18:42:51] I also could rig up something in a conference room for better audio, but it might involve everyone wearing headphones in the room (to prevent microphone feedback) [18:43:05] If you all are comfortable with that, I could make it happen [18:44:53] That should actually work just fine. No one runs audio from their own laptop anyway. [18:45:00] Maybe we could outfit the speaker with a mic? [18:45:07] Or is that what you imagined [18:47:19] I would set up a couple of mics in the conference room, run them to a sound card and run that into the hangout [18:47:53] however, due to the lack of DSP hardware units in our conference rooms, folks would have to wear headphones to hear remote folks speaking or else feedback would occur [18:48:32] ease of use vs audio quality is always a balance, especially in conference rooms. but I would be present for the duration of the showcase to run the audio [18:48:32] brendan_campbell, no speakers would be necessary for hearing the speaker. They can just use the original vibrations straight from the speaker's vocal cords. [18:48:42] speaker speaker speaker :S [18:48:45] =D [18:49:03] Oh! I see. "Remote" [18:49:08] I need to read more carefully. [18:49:31] That doesn't seem insane to me. [18:49:42] Expecially since all remotees have to wear headphones. [18:49:48] This sounds like an equalizer. [18:49:49] lol [18:49:52] halfak: very true [18:50:26] can people present also be exempted from wearing shirts? :D [18:50:28] I can imagine the people who would walk into the room might be weirded out if we sent them back to their desks to get headphones. [18:50:29] err, probably not. [18:50:31] forget I asked that [18:50:56] lol [18:51:01] shirts? [18:51:14] brendan_campbell, how much would a DSP unit cost? [18:51:42] halfak: we have one in our 5th floor lounge. they usually go for a couple grand [18:51:54] Damn. OK. So no drop in the bucket. [18:52:00] ideally, we would have one in each conference room with hanging ceiling mics [18:52:24] but alas, we are a non profit haha [18:52:59] Yeah. Matching furniture and all that. [18:54:03] Maybe we can just move to the lounge and tell speakers "Hey, BTW, there's rarely high attendance in the office, but there are a lot of people who watch online and time-shifted, so it's best we do it in this big room where the audio works better." [18:54:06] And call it good. [18:54:25] halfak: That scenario plays out fairly often in the Lounge [18:55:04] * halfak imagines a movable facade that would make it seem like a smaller room for purposes of speaker egos. [20:00:09] TEA TIME [20:00:12] I'm getting tea [20:00:13] BRB [20:20:51] hah [20:20:59] you may be british just yet [20:21:17] only the british would try to make tea out of the sea [20:21:18] halfak hey! I was doing the rounds on Ubuntu Precise instances on labs (LTS ends on Mar 2017, and we want them all gone by then), and found that snuggle-en is precise. Just a headsup, you should probably move it to jessie in the next few months [21:41:01] yuvipanda, thanks. [21:41:03] Will do