[11:23:13] Why quarry doesn't let me to query from imagelinks? https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/12492 [11:23:16] I can do it in labs [13:53:54] Amir1, "use fawiki_p" :) [14:55:44] halfak: oh, thanks [15:15:13] halfak, is it pronounced o-res or ores as (iron "ores")? :) [15:15:51] subbu, as in iron "ores" [15:16:00] thanks. [15:16:00] * halfak is from the "Iron range" :) [15:16:17] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Range [15:23:38] bah. I've beed reading it oh-res all this time [15:23:40] brb [15:25:57] i think halfak is waging a losing battle here. :) [15:26:38] Goddamn it. I'm the one who named it. [15:26:49] Why does everyone assume it's not just the english language word "ores"? [15:27:05] I've never pronounced it differently. [15:27:22] I think that yuvipanda used to pronounce it "O-Res" [15:28:36] like oh-reos but not [15:29:12] huh and that's after hearing some of your presentations too. yeah losing battle. admit defeat, move on [15:29:21] fwiw, it feels odd to pronounce it "ores" because it reminds me of iron ores ... whereas o-res seems natural for strange reasons like it is an artificial product .. acronym .. etc. .. but that is just my rationalizations for my natural inclination. [15:29:48] 10 points to subbu for the question however [15:30:16] * subbu has hte benefit of hearing halfak rant about the pronunciation earlier .. but had forgotten which way it was ;-) [15:30:31] now you will have to create an app for ores called iron but pronounced [15:30:42] ear-on [15:30:50] lol [15:40:34] Why does everyone assume it's not just the english language word "ores"? < Because "ores" is an uncommon word that most non-native English speakers have never encountered, and because you spell it in all-caps most of the times. [15:40:40] :) [15:41:25] OK. that's somewhat fair. But the english speakers have no excues [15:41:28] *excuse [15:41:41] Also people who have heard me pronounce it :P [15:42:55] yep I have double good no ecuses [15:42:56] You asked why, I gave reasons why; I didn't say they were good reasons, or that there weren't good reasons for adjusting the pronunciation when corrected [15:42:57] excuses [15:43:57] dammit! I get the ice cream outa the freezer, I have the spoon, the container is right next to me and then [15:44:04] I forget about it writing ops notes [15:44:09] BAH [15:44:24] anyways I have a question for you researchy types in here, [15:44:37] who is interested in/uses job schedulers or workflow engines/managers [15:44:54] CRON counts as a job scheduler? [15:44:54] and would looove to comment on some phab tasks about choosing one for the dumps rewrite project? [15:44:58] er no [15:45:02] Grid? [15:45:07] grid sorta counts [15:45:11] Celery? [15:45:13] celery counts [15:45:25] Now, what's a workflow engine? [15:45:28] yeah well [15:45:35] the idea is you have dependent tasks [15:45:43] output of one might feed into input for another [15:45:58] could have complex graphs (but I don't, it's mostly straight dependencies) [15:46:09] airflow, luigi are called 'workflow managers' [15:46:20] As another example, I see your nickname "halfak" so often that when came the time to say your actual last name (in one of my Wikimania presentations last year), I said "hal-fah-ker" because the "-er" suffix only came to mind after I had said "halfak". I realized the mistake as I was saying it, and now the mental pathway has changed and I pronounce it correctly. So just keep correcting people for Ores, and maybe it'll work :) [15:47:00] apergos, I've heard of oozie doing something like that apergos. [15:47:13] Sounds a bit like a makefile pattern [15:49:25] guillom, that makes a lot of sense to me though. I think that my last name is one of the hardest to guess the pronunciation of. [15:49:53] Expecially because the hal-foker pronunciation is more true to the original german [15:50:31] apache has a few things out there, oozie is one of those yeah [15:50:42] * guillom has long given up on Americans pronouncing either part of his French name correctly :D [15:51:13] But I don't want to americanize it. My landlord calls me Will, but he's the only one. [15:52:47] gee-ohm pom-E-eh [15:53:29] Yup [15:56:57] "will"> [15:57:00] oh my [15:57:57] halfak: so it's not a makefile pattern exactly because there's breaking one task up into a bunch of small tasks and recombining (map-reduce) [15:58:17] Gotcha. [15:58:18] and there's queues and priority (do the small wikis here, the big ones there, the weekly crons over there) [15:58:41] anyways if you wanted to look at it more... [15:58:45] * apergos makes puppy eyes [16:40:47] schana: Time-Warner outage in my area, and phone only getting 3G. So I can't do a Hangout today, unless we postpone for later. [16:41:24] ori: no worries - I don't really have anything new since Thursday [16:41:44] me neither. let's cancel today's, then. [16:42:10] okay [16:52:43] schana: could you let leila know? I can't even get Gmail to load [16:53:13] ori: she's traveling today and wasn't going to attend [16:53:49] I'll send her an email too, just in case [16:57:56] thanks [19:45:14] halfak: really, we're all just thinking of ori whenever we pronounce ores [19:45:29] never forget [22:37:17] 10Quarry, 06Discovery, 10Labs-project-other, 10Wikidata, and 2 others: Setup sparqly service at https://sparqly.wmflabs.org/ (like Quarry) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104762#2631095 (10Smalyshev) p:05Triage>03Low