[14:37:04] o/ [14:59:05] \o [21:25:19] lzia, I'm cleaning up /Collaborators and I see that Tomáš Masopust is marked as not having an NDA. [21:25:21] Is that right? [21:25:34] that's correct halfak. [21:26:02] OK just checking :) [21:26:03] (and thanks for going over them. I can benefit from one more active eyeballs on that table.) [21:26:13] * halfak works on an orcid solution :) [21:26:16] (one more pair, I meant, halfak;) [21:50:01] lzia, what do you think of the new https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research/Collaborators ? [21:50:33] lzia, some day, we'll be able to populate this table from a template using Wikidata. [21:51:05] {{Wikimedia Research/Collaborator|Q6535284|contact=Q3298472|nda=y}} [21:51:14] * halfak types randomish Qids [21:52:37] * lzia checks [21:53:13] halfak: one question before I comment on your solution. How does this information help this table? [21:53:51] lzia, we're not the only people who use this table. [21:53:58] Also "Which Isaac Johnson"? [21:54:00] from our point of view, this is a table that we would normally have privately, and we're putting it up there for transparency. There is some information that /needs/ to be there for transparency to be meaningful, and I don't see ORCID as one of those information points, but I may be missing something. [21:54:15] How is it not an information point? [21:54:25] It's a unique identifier for researchers. [21:54:44] halfak: let me expand. the goal of this table on our end is to communicate who has "special arrangements" with us. [21:54:56] halfak: and we want to say what kind of "special arrangement". [21:54:58] Right. [21:55:11] so, my question is: how does ORCID help us with that goal? [21:55:40] halfak, ^ [21:55:47] It helps us communicate who we are working with. [21:56:12] https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=isaac+johnson&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C24&as_sdtp= [21:56:17] I see. so you're saying that ORCID is an important part of the identity of a researcher that is relevant, as much as their name is relevant, halfak? :) [21:56:44] Even more so, I'd say, yeah. Also, one of our community members who consumes our transparent documentation wants it. [21:57:15] We build good-faith when we say, "Yeah, that makes sense. If you want it and we can provide it, here it is. :) " [22:00:41] halfak: I still don't see how this information helps this table. You know the name and affiliation of the person, this is unique enough to be able to say who the person is. This being said, I don't feel strongly one way or the other. Your solution works for me. thanks for checking. [22:01:33] great. :) In this case, I think it's valuable to not gatekeep when it seems like it won't cause harm. [22:01:38] WP:OWN and all that [22:01:54] it definitely won't cause /harm/. ;) [22:42:05] halfak: do you have a link to the script that generates the "identifiers appearing on Wikipedia" report? [22:42:28] Sure! [22:43:53] https://github.com/mediawiki-utilities/python-mwcites/blob/master/mwcites/utilities/extract.py