[15:32:16] nothing like getting SuggestBot back up and running as the first thing in the morning [16:22:07] \o/ [16:32:00] No RG this week? [16:40:20] halfak: It looked like it got cancelled [16:40:31] Gotcha. Nothing for the agenda I guess. [16:40:46] I should have added something about page_id in pageview_hourly. [16:40:54] But I've been overloaded with other stuff :S [16:42:02] Yeah, looked like the agenda was empty [17:04:17] halfak: I chatted with Daniel a bit. Sounds like Marius has to address the last statement tracking patch and then we can deploy it for testing. [17:04:45] Oh good. [17:04:51] He also indicated that from the product team’s perspective, this wasn’t a high priority now. And that we should talk to Lydia if we wanted priorities to be adjusted. [17:08:40] Yeah. I'm not sure how that's working out for them. Maybe we should have this conversation in #wikidata. [17:08:49] Quick thoughts re. priority: [17:08:57] 1. This is something that has great utility for wikidata [17:09:09] 2. There's someone who is working for free on this right now [17:09:18] 3. The patch is very close to deployment [17:09:36] So I think that Daniel might be using a canned response for "I don't know if I should be spending time on this" [17:13:57] Okay. So we should advocate to Lydia on that channel that more priority should be given to statement tracking? [17:15:01] Where did Daniel indicate priority? [17:16:42] He was just telling me about it on a direct message IRC chat [17:17:49] I suppose I could have messaged him in the Wikidata channel so that Lydia could have been easily included in the discussion too [17:18:32] hall1467, I think it would be good to ask Daniel to help us understand what his assessment of priority implies. Let's hop over to #wikidata [17:30:47] OK well that was a fail due to timezones. [17:30:57] hall1467, I can look at your proposal now. [17:31:00] Can you link again? [17:32:28] Yeah, here it is: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hall1467/Understanding_Wikidata%27s_Value_(WMDE_Proposal) [17:32:40] Timezone difference was unfortunate :( [17:34:47] First thought. This needs a nutshell at the top. [17:35:23] Add "{{nutshell|This is a derp}}" right after the project template [17:35:33] "This is a project proposal for statement tracking..." [17:35:56] Three sentences. Even more brief than an abstract [17:36:27] Sure, I can do that [17:37:06] Second. I think we should take your research paper style introduction and move it to a "Releated research" section. [17:37:54] You mean the first and second paragraphs, right? [17:37:58] The lead should start with "We're proposing to do work to make tracking of wikidata usage more granular. Current tracking ..." [17:37:59] Right [17:38:28] The third paragraph is full of good stuff. [17:39:58] Sure, I can definitely do that too. Should the "Related research" section go after the "Contract" and "Project Plan" sections do you think? [17:40:19] Yeah. Far down. [17:41:07] Let's change long term plan to "Long term research project" or something like that and stick the related literature stuff in there [17:41:35] That's what I was thinking too. [17:41:45] Looks like "Analysis of Statement Tracking Database I/O Load" is at the wrong heading level [17:41:51] A couple more that look like that too. [17:42:38] Good catch [17:43:43] Otherwise I think this is looking pretty good. [17:43:56] Maybe we can catch Lydia in #Wikidata tomorrow morning and ask her to take a quick look. [17:43:58] Fixed the heading issue [17:44:10] Actually, I might email here today so she might look at it in here morning. [17:44:14] *her [17:45:06] Sounds good. I'll make changes to it and send her a link. [17:45:10] Thanks for taking a look! [17:45:42] No problem :)