[13:28:46] schana: I was too excited. couldn't sleep. :D [13:28:58] :D [13:29:11] https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/eventlogging-schema?var-schema=QuickSurveyInitiation&refresh=5m&orgId=1&from=now%2Fd&to=now%2Fd [13:29:14] what I'm watching [13:29:18] schana: I'm going over the responses before the meeting with Florian. I see no response in German which is a bit surprising. [13:29:31] and https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/eventlogging-schema?var-schema=QuickSurveysResponses&refresh=5m&orgId=1&from=now%2Fd&to=now%2Fd [13:29:51] my bad schana. there are two response files and one of them has the responses. [13:32:43] schana: these grafana plots are good. thanks. [13:33:20] schana: do you know if I make changes in the mediawiki pages for each language, whether what the user sees gets updated? [13:33:31] or the code fetches that information once and uses it for the whole duration of the survey? [13:33:45] (I'm asking as Bengali folks are suggesting a chance in the translation of one of the messages.) [13:34:01] I'm not sure, but I would guess it looks it up each time [13:34:49] one thing I noticed too when testing during the deployment, is that the buttons in the survey aren't necessarily translated [13:35:01] some were showing up as "visit survey" and "no thanks" [13:35:07] and some were translated [13:35:47] which buttons schana? [13:36:04] in the widget? [13:36:11] yes [13:36:24] hmm. this is a problem we should fix immidiately. [13:36:47] I would guess the translatewiki entries need filled, merged and deployed [13:37:03] but I'm not sure if that's what's being used [13:37:23] can you communicate this in wikimedia-mobile channel and ask for help? [13:38:00] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-QuickSurveys/blob/master/i18n/en.json#L26-L27 [13:44:16] schana: what time is the next deployment? it may be better to stop the surveys and go with the next train, depending on how many languages are affected. [13:45:02] 1800 UTC [13:46:44] ok, how much time do you have to stop the surveys? 14 min? [13:49:07] schana: ^ [13:49:49] and schana: is there a slot available to push the code at 1800 UTC? [13:50:22] slots are available [13:50:30] I'm checking on stopping the survey [13:50:33] ok, great, schana. [13:54:41] schana: let's stop it then. [13:59:46] lzia: hashar isn't responding and I'm unsure who else to contact. Do we need to stop the survey, or can we just ignore the data? [14:00:05] we need to stop them. [14:00:23] we're collecting responses at a high rate and we can't use this data, schana [14:05:21] schana: what's the plan for stopping them? [14:06:55] just wrote patch, now need to find someone in ops who's willing to do a deploy outside of swat [14:09:10] ok, schana. please keep me posted. [14:09:35] if you know of anyone, please send them my way in -operations [14:11:34] spreadsheet is updated with missing translations [15:15:28] schana: a few translations have come in by now. We're still missing 4. I've contacted the volunteers for those. Hopefully those will come in soon, too. [15:16:33] lzia: What's the 4th? I know of (hi, ja, ro) [15:17:12] and zh-hant [15:17:18] schana: ^ [15:17:40] zh-hans is fully translated [15:17:46] does it default to zh-hant? [15:17:59] I'm not sure, schana. how can we check? :) [15:19:13] https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.i18n/blob/c22d23c9ffc9968bec4d030ddfc38c02f886b3a6/src/jquery.i18n.fallbacks.js#L174 [15:19:25] lzia: ^ zh falls back to zh-hans [15:19:32] so does zh-hant [15:20:02] eh! great. [15:20:12] let me let the volunteer know on the task then. [15:31:21] schana: I think we should skip the productization meeting and handle that over email. does that work for you? [15:33:08] lzia: shall I just include it in my email tomorrow, or are you wanting something separate? [15:33:19] email tomorrow is fine, schana. [16:39:03] lzia: it looks like we're only missing "Visit survey" in ja [16:39:29] yeah, I just translate the other one from the samples before. ;) [16:39:48] and I'm pinging #wikimedia-jp channel per Lodewijk's recommendation. [16:40:30] schana: ^ [16:41:08] schana: while we're waiting for the translation to come in, what should be done after Niklas exports the translations? Are all the rest things you can do? or we need help from someone in wikimedia-mobile? [16:42:09] it would probably be best to get help from someone in wikimedia-mobile who's familiar with extension deploys [16:42:25] can you arrange for that, schana? [16:45:23] try to get translators to review transklations [17:33:07] lzia: we're still missing the entry for ja, and the swat window starts in 27 minutes - how do you want to proceed? [17:42:22] schana: I'm getting this last translation now [17:49:46] schana: Lisa Hiraide is a native japanese speaker and she said she can do it. I just can't find her. :D she's in Hangout, I'm pinging her. Let's try to make it happen in this timeslot [17:49:54] I'll ping you as soon as I have it schana. [17:50:08] even if we don't get Japanese in completely, we should still fix everyone else's [17:54:17] lzia: Do you have an idea if you can get the translation soon? [17:54:26] or should I proceed as-is? [18:03:33] schana: I have it. [18:03:35] moving there now [18:04:24] lzia: the patch has already been submitted [18:04:32] schana: I need this fixed [18:06:21] schana: can we export the translations again? we can't have the Japanese buttons not there. :( [18:06:42] lzia: working on it [18:06:48] thanks, schana [18:11:49] lzia: it's in the patch [18:12:12] the latest export including the two translations from jawiki, schana? [18:12:25] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/360889/ [18:13:15] great. thanks schana [18:14:01] whenever you have time, can you let me know how i can trigger the widget in different languages? [18:14:16] schana: ^ [18:14:47] lzia: in the spreadsheet, there's a "test" column that will trigger the widget for all the different wikis [18:14:58] great. thanks. [18:15:48] did you turn the surveys off, schana, earlier today? [18:15:59] I wasn't able to [18:16:11] yeah, np. I can't trigger the Arabic one. lemmec [18:16:32] make sure you don't have "do not track" set [18:16:36] in your browser settings [18:16:41] hmm. it works now. not sure what's going on. schana I'll wait for the patch to be deployed to check. thanks. [18:24:46] schana: are we all good to go? is there hope? ;) [18:24:58] waiting for the swat now [18:25:13] should be **fingers crossed** good to go [18:25:45] great. [18:47:29] lzia: schana: large l10nupdates aren't really things that should be swatted since they take quite a while and l10nupdate runs every night to pull in all the translate wiki updates, can this patch wait until this evening when it will be automatically deployed? [18:54:51] lzia: question from ops: I'd prefer to just wait for the daily l10nupdate run for l10nupdates unless an emergency, is this an emergency or just nice to have? [19:25:04] schana: I just saw your question. when is the daily one run? [19:25:36] lzia: around 7pm pacific [19:25:44] let me check. [19:25:49] I think they're going to go ahead with the change, though [19:25:58] I'm already syncing the change now [19:26:09] I see. thanks, thcipriani. [19:26:11] should be live in a few minutes [19:27:15] thanks a lot thcipriani. :) [19:27:23] yw :) [19:27:38] ideally l10nupdates would happen with the overnight run of l10nupdate which just means they need to be merged into master before 7pm pacific, it slows down SWAT to do it like this [19:27:52] schana: we need to check with Florian about the sampling rates to see if we need to change anything in the last slot available tonight. shall I go ahead an initiate that conversation? [19:28:26] I understand thcipriani, I didn't know this. And this was kind of urgent so I'd appreciate your help with making it happen. [19:28:55] sure, lzia [19:29:06] okie doke, thanks :) [19:29:37] schana: what time is the last swat times-slot? 2300? [19:29:46] 2300 UTC [19:30:05] if there is a need to update sampling rates, will you be around then schana? [19:30:15] I can be available [19:30:21] got it. thanks. [19:30:34] but won't be unless there's a need ;) [19:30:52] yeah, I'll cc you on the thread. I think Florian will get back to us in the next hour. [19:36:31] lzia: new translations are live [19:58:02] great. thanks, schana.