[14:35:37] yuvipanda, I'm trying to figure out how to get to the public interface of paws.tools.wmflabs.org so I can share a notebook, but I can't figure out the URL structure. [14:36:48] paws-public.tools.wmflabs.org doesn't work [15:07:24] OMG I'm going insane trying to download an SVG file. [15:07:40] Jupyter dumps the raw SVG data into an HTML page when rendering it. [15:07:45] I just want to download the SVG file [15:10:47] I just tried an extension called "SVG Crowbar" -- could not find SVG node in page. [15:10:52] * halfak loses hair [15:12:20] * halfak lights shoes on fire [15:12:35] PAWS, give me my SVG! >:( [15:13:10] For future reference, I'm accessing the SVG by clicking on it in the file list. The URL in my addressbar is "https://paws.tools.wmflabs.org/user/epochfail/view/avg_weighted_sum_difference.women_writers.svg" [15:31:21] OH! i can select them in the list and download one at a time! [15:31:21] WOoot [15:54:29] o/ people [16:12:21] halfak: it's the same as paws - paws-public :) [16:13:13] https://paws-public.tools.wmflabs.org/user/epochfail/view/avg_weighted_sum_difference.women_writers.svg [16:13:16] does not work [16:15:57] * subbu spots a yuvipanda [16:16:46] * leila spots a subbu [16:17:01] * subbu spots a leila [16:17:04] :D [16:17:22] you closed it too quickly, subbu. we could go a few more people. ;) [16:17:47] aaah .. i missed the game cue. [16:18:22] yuvipanda: what's going on on your end? [16:22:00] halfak, so .. i am at kiwix hackathon in potsdam, ny .. and i was chatting with martin walker .. and he was wondering if someone in wmf might be willing to take over maintenance of the bot used for http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/update.fcgi ... nothing urgent, but i thought i would ask around ... not sure if that is something that your ores team might be interested in [16:22:34] alternatively, there is community tech and reading .. since there are overlaps .. maybe i should send a common email. [16:39:22] halfak: about to run out now, and travelling to NYC tomorrow for JupyterCon. I'll take a look when I can [16:40:00] subbu: leila lots of stuff going on! Talking at JupyterCon (and meeting Ori!) next week, visa situation getting a bit more stable, doing lots of work on scaling JupyterHub, life is good! [16:43:37] \o/ have fun yuvipanda! [16:43:44] have fun yuvipanda [16:53:47] nice yuvipanda. do ping when you want to grab dinner/lunch. I'll be around for a couple of more weeks before disappearing for vacation. ;) [16:54:34] halfak: the URL you're looking for is https://paws-public.wmflabs.org/paws-public/User:EpochFail/avg_weighted_sum_difference.women_writers.svg. it's paws-public.wmflabs.org, not paws-public.tools.wmflabs.org. paws.wmflabs.org will point to new instance at some point soon [16:54:39] leila: +1! shall do! [17:06:28] halfak: and before I run away, you can see all your stuff at https://paws-public.wmflabs.org/paws-public/User:EpochFail/ [17:06:42] you can put an index.html or index.ipynb there to organize it if you wish [17:28:06] thanks yuvipanda [18:05:34] o/ dsaez [18:05:39] Around? [18:06:22] If you see this later, I'm hoping to talk to you about setting up https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Cloaks [18:06:52] And then giving you "voice" in this channel -- which really only serves as a signifier of being a local who can help with with questions or whatever. [19:04:48] hey halfak: diego is around but he has been in HR onboarding meetings the past couple of hours [19:05:20] and it’s 9pm on his end so I am not sure if he’s going to stick around much longer, but +1 on setting him up with a cloak [19:05:43] :) Yeah. Saw he was not marked away and thought I'd give it a try :) [19:05:46] Thanks for letting me know. [21:42:04] halfak: how much progress are you making on that wikipedia citations database? [22:09:21] harej, we have an intern who is working on it (and it's far over due) [22:09:28] i...see [22:09:41] If that doesn't work out soon, I suspect our new researcher will be taking a look at it. [22:09:52] also, the keilana effect, what is being measured there, completeness? [22:09:53] Worst case scenario, I'll just get it done in two weeks if nothing happens. [22:10:06] harej, yeah. That's a good way to think about it. [22:10:13] completeness relative to what? [22:10:15] Details here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Demonstrating_the_Keilana_Effect_(OpenSym%2717).pdf [22:10:26] or is completeness just defined as 100% FA status? [22:12:13] harej, yes. [22:12:26] But comparisons are relative to the average quality across the wiki [22:12:33] So, given the general curve, Wikipedia *has* in fact been getting steadily better, and not just filling up with stubs on asteroids or what have you [22:12:36] a gap is where a content area has lower quality than average/ [22:12:43] harej, right [22:12:56] See the proportion plots that do breakdowns by quality level. [22:13:01] I would think that the asteroid stubs would in fact be bringing the average quality down [22:13:49] harej, right. One thing I'd like to do soon is intersect with some common notion of "importance" [22:14:09] As I think that's a good modifier for "completeness" to arrive at "value" [22:14:22] I think Nettrom managed to figure that out (where I floundered) [22:14:42] It is more "valuable" to have a "complete" "important" article than a "complete" "unimportant" article. [22:15:02] right. That is part of the reason I am so interested in his work. [22:15:04] :) [22:15:33] So, talking from the NIOSH perspective. I want to work on a data service that calculates Keilana Effect graphs for different subject areas against whatever thresholds you set. I call it a Keilanagram. [22:15:45] I *also* want to partially resurrect Librarybase by getting the citation database up. [22:16:29] These graphs will allow us to track article quality over time, to see if our project has had impact [22:16:38] We are also interested in tracking citations, which your citation database will let us do. [22:16:49] harej, yes. I'm actively looking for someone to do this work. [22:16:54] <-- [22:16:57] ^ [22:17:35] I need to step away. Drop me an or make a wiki page describing your vision and I'll respond ASAP :) [22:17:53] o/