[16:59:54] HaeB: hi. who can I contact to learn more about what has been done so far on Page Previews analysis? as you may know, I will have an intern/volunteer starting on June 4 and I have some ideas about what to study in this space, but want to make sure we don't duplicate efforts. :) [19:19:23] https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/23/17379526/machine-learning-ai-spot-arguments-online-wikipedia [19:36:48] thanks musikanimal. hadn't seen that. [19:39:38] o/ lzia solid points made in that thread re. tabling [19:39:50] Your work with TheWebConf is especially good outreach :D [19:42:42] halfak: lol re tabling. :D [19:43:27] halfak: but here is my challenge. I am not sure if we have the patience and resources for these kind of initiatives. Other brands create brand awareness year after year, by always assuring presence. [19:43:43] Right. I agree. [19:43:43] halfak: just the number of openings we have is usually so limited that may not make sense to invest a LOT. [19:44:09] Indeed. However, maybe we can advertise datasets and other open research questions too :) [19:44:25] I'm not super sure what the right approach is, but I also think the problem of "ow. so you all have a research team that actually hires" in a research conference where we have been presenting in in the past few years is a problem. ;) [19:44:44] yeah. Well put [19:44:50] halfak: yeah. That can be a more effective path, and perhaps we should do a range of things. [19:45:44] at least in the case of TheWebConf we can be sure by now that thanks to Wiki Workshop speakers we have covered many of the key players there. ;) [19:45:56] so at least all those people know a lot more. [19:46:18] +1 that's some good visibility. Maybe workshops are a good way to go at our academic stuff. [19:46:25] And we might table at more engineering-focused events. [19:46:36] right, and then we have to have more presence in the demo sessions. [19:46:48] bmansurov and I have been discussing it more recently. [19:47:26] A lot of the things your team or we do in Research or totally valid for demo submissions. We should consider it seriously, halfak. that's the place where engineers+researchers intersect. [19:47:48] (and it's relatively low commitment, compared to a research paper) [19:47:48] Good point. [19:47:51] +1 [19:48:01] We need to get a lot more analyticsy stuff in demos :) [19:48:25] Yessssss [19:48:28] I was working on a paper with joal, but it a demo might be equally impactful [19:49:17] yeah. or even a tutorial: come learn how to play with Wikimedia data, ... [19:49:25] anyway, I'm creating a lot of work for us. I don't know who can do all of this. ;) [19:49:55] the workshop alone is no easy task. I can't imagine doing 2 of that per year, and already Bob is doing at least half of the work there. [19:50:53] Right. Worth thinking about and executing on what's reasonable -- which might mean making no changes. [19:51:06] right. ;)