[16:28:47] * leila waves to the ppl [16:31:41] dsaez: hellooo. re https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Expanding_Wikipedia_articles_across_languages/Tool_Translations , can you do the Spanish translation yourself? [16:32:03] dsaez: also, who's looking for translators? I /think/ it's on you but I may be wrong. ;) [16:33:55] hi leila [16:37:09] leila: sure I can do the spanish translation ... my understood was that Trizek is doing [16:37:24] I have no idea where/how to do that [16:38:05] dsaez: ok, do the es one for sure, then. and it's not a bad idea if you check with Trizek just to be sure. [16:38:39] dsaez: just click on Spanish on top of the page, and translate it right on meta. you see a red link for  ‎español [16:39:32] dsaez: the way these pages work is that one can write them in one language and then put a translation header which will signal that the page needs translation. [16:40:16] dsaez: check out for example one of the privacy statements (on a different wiki) that got translated for why we read wikipedia: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Survey_Privacy_Statement_for_Schema_Revision_15266417 [16:45:07] * dsaez is trying to decrypt this interface [16:49:02] got it [16:51:10] great. [17:21:29] bmansurov: are the skins for readers or editors? [17:25:37] leila: what do you mean? [17:26:05] bmansurov: does the user have to be logged in to set the skin preferences? [17:26:41] leila: I think so, by default they get vector and minerva [17:29:32] bmansurov: if that is an editor feature, then I don't know why we have to worry about it as the plan is not to collect data from logged in users anyway. do you agree? [17:36:06] leila: as a reader you can choose your skin and not edit any pages [17:41:52] bmansurov: got you. [18:48:59] bmansurov: I'm blanking. why did we decide to include the skin? [18:51:50] does someone know the difference between tech-all and tech-dept-info? (is the former Tech Dept. specific and the latter Tech Dept + whoever else in WMF who is interested?) [18:53:43] debt: ^ [19:02:38] leila: I think we talked about instrumenting in mobile and maybe thought that knowing skin would help with analysis somehow? [19:04:05] bmansurov: right. I think we expected that user behavior can be different as a function of the UI and discussed to collect this. [19:04:24] something like that [19:04:40] bmansurov: if some skins have very few users across mobile and desktop platforms, then I agree we shouldn't collect the data for those. [19:04:44] let me comment on task then. [19:04:50] k [19:17:25] sgoel: hi. how are you doing? :) [19:18:58] Hi! pretty good... looking into new editor retention with respect to thanks [19:19:26] sgoel: excellent. I have a couple of responses for you re your email. [19:21:09] I'm all ears :) [19:21:12] sgoel: re what contributions count for editor activity? My suggestion is to consider two scenarios. 1) editor has had at least one edit in one of the namespaces of the project you're considering. 2) editor has had at least one edit in one of the namespaces of any Wikimedia project. I would start with (1), and would include (2) only if we have time. [19:22:06] sgoel: the idea here is that Thanks can potentially keep the editor on the current project, or it can even have impact on the other projects the editor is on. It would be interesting to see if the results for these two cases are different or not. but again, let's start from (1). [19:23:48] sgoel: re what constitutes "dropped out". neilpquinn has used 12 months in the past, and he knows of teams that have used 6 months. There seems to be no clear cut threshold. It's probably a good idea to establish one (and maybe other initiatives can use them in the future). For example, you can plot the histogram of time since last edit and we can eye-ball and see what makes sense. I bet you can come up with other approaches, t [19:24:50] Alright sounds good! [19:25:31] sgoel: and I'm reviewing your notebook from Friday. we can chat more later today or tomorrow. [19:39:17] ohai bmansurov [19:40:09] the difference between tech-all and tech-dept-info is that tech-all is all folks in Tech. tech-dept-info is for all managers and budget owners in Tech. [19:44:15] debt: Thank you. I need tech-all then. :) [19:45:05] glad to help, leila :) [20:28:29] halfak: I need a bit more time, can I be 15-min late? ;) [20:28:39] Sure! No problem [20:30:00] thanks. [21:31:06] debt: o/