[16:29:24] <bmansurov>	 Pchelolo: o/ can we merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/489211 ?
[16:29:51] <Pchelolo>	 hi bmansurov
[16:30:20] <Pchelolo>	 lemme ping otto on that, I don't have +2 on puppet
[16:30:43] <bmansurov>	 Pchelolo: ok, thanks!
[16:40:50] <dsaez>	 isaacj, no WWRW meeting today or just finished early? or am I in the wrong link :D ?
[16:52:20] <isaacj>	 ah sorry - yeah, ended early because just Bob and i
[16:52:34] <isaacj>	 dsaez: ^^
[17:08:20] <dsaez>	 isaacj, make sense, I have no idea what time is Melburne now, but for sure not a good one :D
[17:10:52] <isaacj>	 dsaez: haha, yes
[18:01:55] <bmansurov>	 leila: o/ the hackathon registration has closed unfortunately
[18:02:06] <leila>	 bmansurov: that's correct. 
[18:02:18] <bmansurov>	 leila: couldn't gather why it was mentioned in the meeting
[18:02:28] <bmansurov>	 was it an urge to register or something else?
[18:03:00] <leila>	 bmansurov: to confirm that folks in the team don't have expectations to attend as Dario and I have not received any request from the team and we will not attempt to make a case that someone from the team should attend.
[18:03:14] <bmansurov>	 leila: ok thanks
[18:03:17] <leila>	 bmansurov: In your case, I remember we discussed and the time of it wasn't good for you.
[18:03:34] <leila>	 bmansurov: basically, last chance if you want to change the trajectory. ;)
[18:03:35] <bmansurov>	 leila: now I want to attend ;)
[18:03:45] <bmansurov>	 oh is it still possible?
[18:54:07] <leila>	 bmansurov: the general answer is no. If there is a specific case that we want to make a case for, I'm happy to work with the person to do it. We don't know if it will get accepted, but we can try if we have a good case. The are a few spots in each department (Tech in this case) that we can make a case for.
[18:55:05] <bmansurov>	 leila: ok, let's talk about it during our meeting
[18:56:46] <leila>	 bmansurov: sounds good.
[20:01:05] <leila>	 bmansurov: will be there a couple of min
[20:01:12] <bmansurov>	 leila: ok
[20:56:20] <Pchelolo>	 bmansurov: curl https://stream.wikimedia.org/v2/stream/page-links-change  
[20:56:50] <Pchelolo>	 the eventbus change wasn't deployed to all wikis yet, so there's not all the events, will be deployed everywhere tomorrow
[20:56:54] <Pchelolo>	 with a train
[21:02:14] <bmansurov>	 Pchelolo: awesome. Thanks!
[21:32:51] <bmansurov>	 Pchelolo: what do I need to do to get the links-change stream to https://stream.wikimedia.org/ ?
[21:34:32] <Pchelolo>	 bmansurov: sorry I didn't understand the question
[21:34:52] <bmansurov>	 Pchelolo: if you visit the link, you'll see a list of streams, but links-change isn't there.
[21:35:39] <bmansurov>	 Pchelolo: it seems like I need to make some change somewhere to get links-change added to that list.
[21:35:51] <Pchelolo>	 bmansurov: gimme a sec
[21:36:52] <Pchelolo>	 oh indeed, I was under the impression the spec is generated automagically
[21:37:19] <Pchelolo>	 bmansurov: add it to spec.yaml in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/mediawiki/services/eventstreams
[21:37:24] <bmansurov>	 Pchelolo: ok, thanks
[21:55:01] <bmansurov>	 Pchelolo: the change's been merged. I guess I need to initiate a deploy too? Or is it done periodically?
[21:55:25] <Pchelolo>	 ottomata is the one deploying that service :)
[21:55:46] <bmansurov>	 I see, ok.
[23:06:08] <ottomata>	 o/
[23:06:31] <ottomata>	 the spec in prod is actually not the one in the service code reop
[23:06:32] <ottomata>	 its in prod
[23:06:39] <ottomata>	 sorry
[23:06:40] <ottomata>	 in puppet*
[23:06:45] <ottomata>	 we try to keep them in sync tho
[23:06:49] <ottomata>	 so thanks for adding that
[23:07:01] <ottomata>	 gotta run, byyeee
[23:34:44] <leila>	 nuria: a friendly ping re our meeting.
[23:34:53] <nuria>	 argh sorry
[23:35:01] <leila>	 nuria: no worries. I missed it myself, too. :D
[23:35:01] <nuria>	 leila: i forgot my headset 
[23:35:05] <nuria>	 leila: one sec
[23:35:17] <leila>	 np. do you want to talk later, nuria? I still have plenty of stuff to do
[23:38:47] <nuria>	 leila: argh sorry with no headset i will not be able to talk where i am, we can try later if you have time
[23:39:14] <leila>	 nuria: how about we do it here? I /think/ it's pretty clear what needs to be done. ;)
[23:39:24] <leila>	 nuria: and no worries re headset.
[23:39:39] <leila>	 nuria: so here is my suggestion for the GII challenge we have now.
[23:40:39] <leila>	 nuria: it's pretty clear to me that we can't drop that request. Wikipedia coming out of that composite index is not good for anyone. (It's quite nice to see that Wikipedia is penetrating more an more into these key indexes.)
[23:40:58] <leila>	 nuria: my suggestion is that I ask our team to see if someone can help with the extrapolation part, or some other predictive model.
[23:41:35] <leila>	 nuria: I'm not sure about the timelines of this request, we're usually on a ticking clock with them in February and they usually have a very hard deadline in April.
[23:42:12] <leila>	 nuria: alternatively, they can use 2017's data. It's not ideal, but they have done this in the past before we help them. They used 2014's data in 2 years.
[23:42:47] <leila>	 nuria: so concretely: do you want me to take this out of your team's plate now, and maybe just ask Dan to help with where is what kind of question? and maybe a little bit more?
[23:47:11] <leila>	 nuria: from another thread I see that you're saying the above plan works for you and your team. I'll go ahead and communicate with GII folks and will take the next steps.