[14:06:10] hi bmansurov! Did you get any input to the post from the Internet Archive people? Should I ping them? [14:18:27] miriam_: o/ yes please ping them. [14:19:32] bmansurov: OK! I'll also ask Jonathan to add on the "research perspective" paragraph. He might want to mention their readers' trust survey [14:19:53] awesome, thanks! [14:24:42] bmansurov: np -- do you have a meta page for the citation event stream? [14:24:51] bmansurov: just to send them as a reminder [14:25:31] bmansurov: actually, no, I am sending the demo :) [14:28:54] anyway - done :) [14:38:18] ok [15:01:50] bmansurov: be there in one [15:02:00] ok [15:41:20] isaacj, I'm digging in your results about language switching. This looks really amazing, a lot of potential there. Maybe this could be use to in the gap finder, to rank articles for improving [15:43:04] dsaez: yeah, agreed. and that's also part of the push for considering releasing "country" because we think different communities might want to look at the statistics for their areas [15:44:37] could be, but in the other hand, for 'kagglers' it would be good to guide them to create as-general-as-possible model [15:45:18] So, giving less data is not only safer in terms of privacy issues, but also to be sure that they don't overfit their models [18:03:21] yeah good point. perhaps will release a simple dataset for the competition and then get the okay to release more data for other uses [18:44:33] dsaez the WebConf tutorial on "designing equitable algorithms for the web" is organized by Ricardo Baeza-Yates. You collaborated with him, right? Do you recommend the tutorial? https://www2019.thewebconf.org/tutorials [21:13:31] isaacj: I sent an email to wikimedia-l for the reader diversity survey: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2019-March/091956.html [21:13:48] isaacj: I'm going to ping past point of contacts to make sure they don't miss it. [21:14:08] leila: looks good - thanks! [21:14:20] isaacj: one question. are there some of the questions that we already have the translations for from the world value survey? [21:16:14] leila: i'll see what i can dig up. there will be some that are matches and others that are just close and we can decide whether those are close enough. i suspect most still will require translation though [21:16:41] isaacj: ok ok. thanks. [21:16:44] leila: i take that back. some of the international surveys (GESIS etc.) will have translations for a number of our questions [21:17:27] luckily i did track the sources for this moment when i forgot where all these questions came from :) [21:17:38] isaacj: great. that will make the life of the point of contacts easier. :) [21:37:00] leila: you mentioned in our meeting yesterday that you got confirmation from IT about moving the Showcase to 9am Pacific. Do you happen to remember which meeting room they said was available? [21:38:22] J-Mo: I don't know the meeting room and based on what we discussed yesterday we don't know if we want to move it, yet. [21:39:00] J-Mo: I suggest we keep it at the usual time for March. I still need some time to talk with miriam and dsaez about it in our upcoming 1:1s and the March showcase shouldn't get blocked on those conversations. [21:39:35] isaacj: I pinged past point of contacts, someone from fawiki, and Anthere who want to see more African languages included. https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Research_talk%3ACharacterizing_Wikipedia_Reader_Behaviour%2FDemographics_and_Wikipedia_use_cases&type=revision&diff=18918952&oldid=18876875 [21:40:15] isaacj: let's talk in the coming days and start working with the Polish request so they have enough time to work on translations, etc. [21:40:22] sounds good to me. thanks leila! [21:40:34] J-Mo: np [21:41:58] leila: looks good. do you want to raise the point that we will shortly be able to target not just projects but also countries, especially regarding surveys in Africa? or just keep it simple right now [21:42:44] isaacj: I contemplated on that and decided not to. I'm worried about it not going through for whatever reason and then we will disappoint them. [21:43:34] ok, fair point. thanks! [21:43:45] isaacj: I like the approach of under-promise, over-deliver, for the interactions with the community given the history of priorities changing in WMF and things not going exactly as communicated. :) [21:44:07] :) [21:44:36] isaacj: but yeah. if we can target by country, that would be really nice. I'm honestly slightly ecstatic about it. ;) [22:48:07] apologies in case folks just received a lot of google calendar spam - was trying to fix the room for the research group meeting