[21:43:31] there is a talk by Cristian Canton of Facebook AI Red Team this upcoming Friday (10:00 PST), on the subject of abuses and misuses of AI, that some of you may be interested in: https://on.acm.org/t/abuses-and-misuses-of-ai-prevention-vs-reaction/1736 [21:54:32] isaacj: I need your advice (not urgent). I asked Diego Quintana to update the design for the meta templates and include a link back to research.wikimedia.org . Naturally, he has added a line that says "A project by Wikimedia Research". https://c.solitario.studio/wikimedia/templates/research-sub_program/v5/ [21:56:19] isaacj: I wonder if there is a better way to link back to research.wikimedia.org and avoid calling it Wikimedia Research on meta, cuz it can be confused with Wikimedia Research Newsletter and other items. [21:56:55] * leila sighs as she has been unable to open time to work with the community to address this naming confusion, which bugs her and others down from time to time. [22:09:17] leila: Iolanda had ideas on the topic and it's always a pleasure to talk with Iolanda (I think), so maybe you can try that [22:14:17] Nemo_bis: good idea as she's been one of the fiercer forces for change, too. :) I'll reach out to her. [22:14:30] Nemo_bis: and indeed, it's a pleasure to talk with her. :) [22:22:06] Nemo_bis: I left a ping for her at T218917#6324524 [22:22:06] T218917: Improve Research presence on the web - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218917 [22:23:08] Nemo_bis: unrelated, let me know if at some point you have time for the two of us to catch up. With all the travels on halt, I feel I've been missing you and others a lot. :( [22:24:01] Nemo_bis: I was thinking this morning about our long walks. I hope all is well with you. [22:24:12] leila: it's unbelievable that it's already one year since Wikimania Stockholm! I still remember our chats fondly [22:24:36] Nemo_bis: indeed. same here. [22:24:54] Yes all is fine here in Helsinki... it always feels so orderly and safe compared to most of the world [22:25:13] :D [22:25:20] enjoy it. ;) [22:25:38] I just celebrated 3 years since I moved here. Hopefully I'll stay much longer [22:25:59] oh. it's already 3 years. nice! :) [22:26:01] I'm not sure Iolanda sees notifications on Phabricator (although she is using it more now), but she's always responsive on email, talk page and Telegram so it shouldn't be hard to find her [22:26:19] I'll wait a couple of days and if I don't hear from her I'll email her. [22:26:30] thanks for the heads up. (she is indeed fast with emails.) [22:33:31] :) [23:32:47] leila: probably a broader conversation and one for which i lack much of the context, but my only input at this point would be to say that i think at one time we floated 'WMF Research' as an alternative. i've personally never been bothered by the blurred boundaries of Wikimedia Research Newsletter, WikiResearch on Twitter, wiki-research-l, #wikimedia-research, research.wikimedia.org / Wikimedia Research as our team name, and so on. [23:32:47] can be confusing but i'm quite happy with being grouped in with the broader community :)