[09:35:56] <_joe_>	 jbond42: let's talk here?
[09:36:11] <_joe_>	 I'm sure we're not the only one interested in the conversation
[09:36:28] <jbond42>	 sure, so the problem is im not sure i understand how things are ment to be used.  my understanding was/is....
[09:37:03] <jbond42>	 defaults should be placed in common and the more specifics should be overriddenc in the roles structre
[09:37:34] <jbond42>	 however because role3 is the second backend anything founf in the nuyaml backend will take precedence and roles will only be searchied if nothing is found
[09:37:39] <jbond42>	 so the above does not work
[09:37:42] <_joe_>	 yes
[09:37:47] <_joe_>	 so, this was solved already
[09:37:56] <_joe_>	 but then I found out the following horror
[09:38:45] <_joe_>	 - the puppet compiler uses production.hiera.yaml, which is what I modified
[09:38:57] <_joe_>	 - production uses production_hiera3.hiera.yaml for $reasons
[09:39:02] <_joe_>	 which I didn't modify
[09:39:56] <_joe_>	 so we should basically re-apply f9eefc19c93a747d33d2a636b1c1d8dad64da08b
[09:40:40] <_joe_>	 remove the use of production_hiera3.hiera.yaml 
[09:40:55] <_joe_>	 - apply https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/475500/1
[09:41:22] <_joe_>	 probably we need to remove the use of production_hiera3.hiera.yaml  first
[09:42:24] <jbond42>	 ahh yes this is exactly the problem i was wanting to tackle, so yes i will explore this
[09:42:38] <_joe_>	 not sure why we still use nuyaml3 / role3
[09:42:50] <jbond42>	 did you say thie compiler is allready using this config
[09:42:58] <_joe_>	 yes
[09:43:06] <_joe_>	 the compiler copies production.hiera.yaml
[09:43:08] <jbond42>	 so it should be a fairly safe change
[09:43:27] <_joe_>	 well I did revert that file
[09:43:52] <jbond42>	 ahh ok so tested on the compiler but not running there now
[09:43:57] <_joe_>	 oh my
[09:44:21] <_joe_>	 I assume we're still running hiera 2 on the compiler?
[09:44:30] <_joe_>	 or 1 even
[09:44:36] <jbond42>	 i havn't explored the compiler at all yet
[09:44:53] <jbond42>	 however the role3 backend dose use the version1 api
[09:45:01] <_joe_>	 anyways, you'll need to in order for this to work
[16:14:34] <volans>	 moritzm, jbond42: I need to plan for a debmonitor release, any fleet upgrade ongoing or suggestion for a good time?
[17:10:50] <moritzm>	 good to go!
[18:09:35] <volans>	 sorry, got sidetracked by puppet issues, will try tomorrow, I'll ping you again to avoid disruption of any fleet update