[10:20:08] see https://wm-bot.wmflabs.org/logs/%23wikimedia-serviceops/20190509.txt starting at [09:34:58] by Mark [10:31:38] possible choices in addition to the "Number of Debian Linux systems running on EOL releases" mentioned by Mark could be e.g. "Number of Spicerack cook books automating maintenance tasks" ? [10:32:06] yeah [10:32:21] i should add... [10:32:26] there's is yet another KD in scope for this [10:32:29] there's also this outcome: [10:32:35] "Reduced Infrastructure Gaps in the areas of backups & disaster preparedness, observability, infrastructure automation and team structure & support [10:32:35] " [10:32:41] essentially the continuation of current TEC6 [10:32:53] and one KD for that is: [10:32:54] "Strengthen critical data backups, Traffic and observability infrastructure, and reduce toil through automation of common operational workflows and the development of internal tooling & APIs" [10:33:08] cookbooks is kinda covered by that [10:33:34] another KD for that, which we already have metrics for is; [10:33:42] "Strengthen team health and reduce bus factor by filling key staffing & expertise gaps, and the addition of management and process support" [10:34:16] and that covers both the hiring of engineering managers, but also e.g. additional SREs for, say, swift & cassandra (which filippo is still doing) [10:34:32] this outcome doesn't necessarily need another metric, we already have some [16:06:54] volans: chaomodus: does cumin1001 need a new spicerack release to use the ganeti makevm cookbook...? [16:07:16] cdanis: yes [16:07:22] I'm meant to test that aren't i [16:07:27] if you needed I can cut it though [16:07:46] no hurry, had wanted to use it for making a new vm for trying out new grafana [16:07:50] but that's not at all urgent [16:08:44] cdanis: to be precise, the makevm would create the vm also with current version but will fail to give you the MAC [16:09:11] Failed to import module cookbooks.sre.ganeti.makevm: No module named 'spicerack.ganeti' [16:09:14] is what I am getting [16:09:38] that's on 1001 right? [16:09:41] yeah, expected [16:10:01] let me cut a release, I was hoping to get some other CR in [16:10:08] but I'll cut a separate one for them [16:10:15] it can wait! [16:10:19] I have plenty of other things to do [16:10:34] sure, but I don't like the current state of things that is partially broken [16:10:38] wanted to put off writing any of the prose I have to write with some 'actual' work ;) [16:11:06] people are so down on prose [16:11:25] you're native speakers, you can't complain ;) [16:11:40] ahah [16:12:11] we should just pick a language that is nobody's native language so it's fair to everyone [16:17:45] wasn't that the totally failed attempt of esperanto? :-P [16:18:00] esperanto is too eurocentric anyway [16:18:15] also it's the most successful constructed language (tm) [16:21:22] I propose Toki Pona [16:30:41] no [16:30:46] Afrikaans [16:31:23] it is not a madeup lang but [16:31:41] it has parts of other languages [16:35:49] chaomodus: I didn't know about Toki Pona, tx [16:36:17] I'm kind of really into constructed languages [16:36:50] does that look like foods to other people as well [16:36:53] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Sitelen_sitelen.png [16:36:57] or it is just me ? [16:37:07] it does a bit yah [16:37:13] hahaha [16:37:24] i think it's heavily inspired by ancient maya writing [16:37:29] i really like it tbh [16:37:40] there's an example later on of a contract written with it and i find it beautiful. [16:59:40] lol [16:59:42] saw it [17:17:01] when i pasted some into google translate it identified it as HAITIAN CREOLE [17:34:23] cdanis: it will take a bit more to cut the release, some issues with urllib3 packages I need to dig into [18:40:43] volans: no worries, i'm certainly not blocked on this