[11:03:01] <jynus>	 did anyone conciously decided to not enable persistent journalctl logs? e.g. negative performance or it was planned for the logs to be shipped away?
[11:03:57] <jynus>	 losing the logs on crash is a big deal for some services
[11:05:17] <jynus>	 or maybe it is something the persistence team should deal with?
[11:05:25] <jynus>	 :-D
[11:10:56] <godog>	 paravoid: indeed, I'll reply on the task
[11:11:48] <jynus>	 I will create a patch, send it to several of you for discussion
[11:12:36] <paravoid>	 godog: thanks!
[11:40:02] <jynus>	 I've uploaded https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/535818
[12:59:29] <_joe_>	 don't we already send logs to syslog from journalctl?
[12:59:39] <_joe_>	 then syslog persists them
[13:00:21] <_joe_>	 that's how I understood the journald docs back in the day
[15:16:18] <XioNoX>	 godog, herron, fyi LibreNMS supports alertmanager: https://docs.librenms.org/Alerting/Transports/#alertmanager
[15:17:06] <XioNoX>	 now that I looked at all the pictures, I have to read the actual text of the roadmap
[15:24:48] <godog>	 XioNoX: lol, yeah librenms is on phase 2 once you get to it