[06:17:13] godog: https://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/g48tgz/modern_network_monitoring_with_streaming/fnwe5ho/?context=8&depth=9 [06:17:46] "We're slowly convincing the network vendors to adopt Prometheus format as a replacement for SNMP. But it's a long slog to convince them that streaming telemetry was a bit of a mistake and get back to active monitoring again. Just not with SNMP." [06:18:05] "I actually tried to convince the LibreNMS developers that this would be a good opportunity. They have all of the knowledge of MIBs/devices, discovery. But their polling/metrics/storage backend was an obsolete pile of PHP and RRD. Switching that out for Prometheus would give them all the power of the multi-threaded poller and TSDB we built. But, that didn't really happen." [08:39:53] XioNoX: interesting, thank you for the link! [08:40:14] yeah I can see how librenms folks wouldn't want the additional dependency, even if it'd be nice [13:51:43] RRD was pretty good tech for 1999 [14:39:29] <_joe_> s/good/acceptable/ [14:39:31] <_joe_> but yes [14:40:54] <_joe_> or you use 1999 as "a remote time when I wasn't in tech and probably servers still had a math coprocessor and a serial network card"? [14:55:28] RRD was pretty good tech for 2009 too [14:57:20] I don't know what else existed in 2009? nothing open source even remotely popular for sure [15:05:05] graphite :) [15:05:13] (just)