[15:04:24] <cdanis>	 pro tip of the day: in argparse, type=bool on an argument does _not_ do what you want it to.
[15:11:19] <andrewbogott>	 does anyone know how I can turn on 'Hiera.debug' lines in httpyaml?
[15:11:58] <_joe_>	 andrewbogott: you mean seeing the hiera debug lines?
[15:12:03] <andrewbogott>	 yep!
[15:12:03] <_joe_>	 --debug :)
[15:12:12] <andrewbogott>	 —debug on what?
[15:12:25] <andrewbogott>	 I mean, generally this is getting called from a puppet run on a whole other host
[15:12:49] * andrewbogott tries it on hiera_lookup
[15:22:09] <XioNoX>	 https://google.github.io/eng-practices/review/reviewer/ Google's Engineering Practices documentation - How to do a code review
[15:47:47] <chaomodus>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/docker-images/production-images/+/534833 if ayone can +1
[15:50:56] <Reedy>	 chaomodus: do you want it reviewing, or just a +1 applying? :P
[15:52:58] <chaomodus>	 I'm so confident in my correctness that ... just kidding a review is fine ;)
[15:57:30] <XioNoX>	 chaomodus: in the control file there is `Maintainer: Giuseppe Lavagetto <joe@wikimedia.org>`
[15:57:49] <XioNoX>	 should it be you? :)
[15:59:17] <XioNoX>	 the run.sh file is a link, but I don't understand to what
[16:00:12] <XioNoX>	 ah there https://github.com/wikimedia/operations-docker-images-production-images/blob/master/images/python-build/run.sh
[16:01:22] <XioNoX>	 have you tried to build the docker image manually?
[16:08:32] <chaomodus>	 oooh no i don't want the responsibility for that
[16:09:05] <chaomodus>	 I was told to duplicate the existing jessie one since it is the same but also not the 'default' version
[16:09:32] <chaomodus>	 i'm not completely sure how to build it locally either
[16:09:41] <XioNoX>	 Overall I think it's fine
[16:11:36] <chaomodus>	 yah cool
[16:11:45] <chaomodus>	 in any case not destructivnely wrong
[16:12:36] <XioNoX>	 famous last words
[16:13:40] <XioNoX>	 chaomodus: to test it, I'd merge it with https://github.com/wikimedia/operations-software-netbox-deploy/blob/master/Dockerfile.build then run the  make, I don't know if it's the cleanest way though
[16:14:11] <chaomodus>	 fascinating
[16:24:12] <XioNoX>	 "I just wanted to update you on Google's response. They have informed me that their engineering team is actively working on the issue but unfortunately do not have a current ETA. We will of course update you as soon as we have one." - Place your bets, when will my Google Calendar start working again?
[16:26:34] <cdanis>	 your issue was not on their OKRs for this quarter
[16:27:11] <chaomodus>	 haha
[16:27:21] <chaomodus>	 something something perverse motivations
[16:27:45] <chaomodus>	 you can tell engineers are systematic (in terms of thinking about systems) because we immediately lept to the preverse motives angle
[16:29:48] <XioNoX>	 whut?
[16:31:18] <chaomodus>	 in economics there's a concept of perverse motivations, basically if you take some stimulous to its logical extreme it produces undesirable outcomes
[16:33:54] <cdanis>	 see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law and also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell%27s_law and also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect
[16:38:48] <XioNoX>	 I like the story behind the cobra effect