[10:44:58] <_joe_> James_F: did I say we can drop hhvm completely? [10:45:15] <_joe_> I must have either misunderstood or brainfarted if i did [10:45:42] <_joe_> I was aware of wikitech and also i want to remove hhvm from at least mwmaint [10:46:05] <_joe_> so if I gave you the green light, I either misunderstood or I did have a lapse of reason [10:47:01] <_joe_> A more savvy me would've said "next week if possible" :P [12:32:35] where can we not yet remove hhvm? [12:56:30] <_joe_> from mediawiki, given it's still used by wikitech and it's still installed everywhere [12:57:04] <_joe_> I think the most important part is removing it from the maintenance servers [12:59:10] why is it still used by wikitech? [12:59:57] <_joe_> because wikitech has its own puppet classes, separate from the main clusters, and we never got to it [13:00:07] <_joe_> it's not a technical challenge [13:03:35] how much work would it be to remove it? [13:09:17] <_joe_> remove HHVM from the mwmaint servers? not much [13:10:06] <_joe_> if you mean how much work it is to move wikitech to php7, I don't think it's a lot of work either. [13:11:39] <_joe_> andrewbogott: lmk if you need help with that. [13:14:07] thanks! I think bd.808 and bs.torm_ were going to work on that today [13:17:12] <_joe_> oh ok sorry, I got that backwards [13:39:32] cool [13:49:28] _joe_: As I said, we can hold back the train from wikitech for a while. But yes, whoops. [14:10:43] James_F: I think that makes sense, wmcs will be finish this up sooner or later [18:32:49] question, I'd liek to make netbox active/active since it works fine that way, but dns ci complains about multiple addresses for a name [18:32:59] I gather this is not the normal way to do this, then [18:36:32] chaomodus: yeah it'll be through dns discovery records that feed from conftool-data [18:36:45] oh dear [18:36:47] okay [18:38:16] thanks for the pointer, i found the wikyitech article on it [18:39:08] except this doesn't seem to be for wikimedia.org addresses? [18:40:01] chaomodus: oh, my bad I defaulted to internal discovery.wmnet [18:41:20] trying to think if we have sth like that already, i.e. that doesn't go through cache [18:42:12] is netbox not supposed to be behind caching servers because it is considered like a monitoring server that should not rely on it? [18:42:23] Yah [18:42:31] also a source of configuration truth going forward [18:42:39] gotcha.. or i would have said stuff about config for ATS.. nvm then [18:42:49] yah preferably not behind balancers [18:44:23] geodns it is then, in other words the DYNA configuration in dns and friends, with its own pool [18:45:35] mh yah [18:45:37] okay [18:47:14] so that's like make a new key in geo-resources [18:47:17] with the addrs [18:47:28] and make it geoip!netbox-addrs or whatever [18:47:33] it the dns [18:47:40] that's easier than expected. [18:54:42] afaik that's what there is to it yes, traffic folks can confirm [18:57:39] cool thanks :) [18:57:45] what even is this format though [19:03:30] who should review this now? [19:03:49] idk, anyone qualified to this weird part of dns: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/dns/+/541602 [19:07:55] traffic / brandon would be it, also the related task in commit will help with context [19:16:05] Yes