[11:49:10] Where does MWScript.php live? I can't seem to find it in the mediawiki repo or puppet (although the mwscript wrapper is in the scap module) [12:09:10] hnowlan: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/operations/mediawiki-config/+/master/multiversion/MWScript.php ? [12:10:55] ahhh cool [12:21:09] <_joe_> hnowlan: yeah the dreaded mediawiki-config [12:21:19] <_joe_> hnowlan: did anyone in your team introduce you to it? [12:21:27] not yet :) [12:21:29] <_joe_> we should organize a walkaround sometimes soon [13:04:17] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/19/internet_society_org_sale/ [13:04:32] apparently some semi-positive things going on there, maybe [13:12:33] yes its looking better then it was, the board has written a letter to them last week which is looking for some public benefit justifications and from my reading is trying to make sure they dont just pick it apart and milk it for as much as they can https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/botterman-to-camarillo-13feb20-en.pdf [14:23:58] _joe_ I have a netboot.cfg change in puppet. I see you have a change as well. Can you merge mine with yours when you are ready. Thanks! [14:25:45] <_joe_> I just merged both [14:25:50] <_joe_> see #operations [15:57:26] o/ [17:04:20] I'm trying to distinguish between mwdebug hosts and actual mw canary hosts (mw216[34].codfw.wmnet for example) - is there any difference between the two other than naming and conftool config? [17:12:12] the mwdebug can be targeted via a browser extension, so it's useful for specific tests [17:12:37] the production canaries are e.g. used to expose a change relevant to live traffic before rolling it out fleet-wide [17:12:47] e.g. a new openssl update or a new PHP release [17:13:10] so different scope, especially in terms of traffic, mwdebug has very little reqs [17:15:29] Ah, cool [17:21:21] <_joe_> hnowlan: if you want to install something only on the mwdebug hosts [17:21:32] <_joe_> hieradata/regex.yaml is your friend [17:21:39] <_joe_> there is a regex for the test mw servers [17:22:17] although for the current patch I'd even say we can extend this to all mw* servers, this could useful in production as well an the package is tiny [17:22:21] yea, regex in this case because they all use the same role [17:22:46] <_joe_> moritzm: phpdbg? [17:22:48] <_joe_> let's not. [17:22:52] otherwise role/common/ would work. maybe different role name would be ideal? [17:23:08] <_joe_> also not worth it mutante, IMHO [17:23:17] 'k, fair [17:23:40] fine with me either way [17:23:57] <_joe_> moritzm: isn't it a php-fpm extension? [17:24:00] by the way, i was wondering if we want mwdebug2*. in codfw we have canaries now but they have mw* names [17:25:07] IIRC it just provides the CLI tool, but might mis-remember [17:31:03] <_joe_> mutante: we do have mwdebug* in codfw [17:33:11] looks like it's just the CLI tool [17:33:17] but ack, I'll make it a toggle [17:37:57] _joe_: oh, indeed. nevermind :)