[08:37:07] heads up, stopping bacula service now until m1 restart (9UTC)- no backups or restores will be possible during the stop [08:41:06] <_joe_> jynus: thanks for the heads up [08:42:08] it should not impact any programmed backup, and we could put it up if there is an emergancy for restore, though [08:43:03] mostly heads up for monitoring complains: gap on https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/413r2vbWk/bacula [08:51:33] akosiaris: in 10 minutes we are restarting m1 master, which affects etherpad :) [08:52:04] let's give a ping on -staff [08:52:04] what could possibly go wrong? [08:52:09] * akosiaris around [08:52:10] just in case [08:53:08] marostegui: thanks, I was bout to hit enter with a similar heads up [08:53:18] akosiaris: I think last time we had to restart etherpad? [08:53:22] jynus: :) [08:53:41] marostegui: I would be surprised if it doesn't restart anyway on its own [08:53:55] spewing some beautiful nodejs exception in the process [08:53:59] haha [08:55:31] <_joe_> you should also announce it on slack ;) [08:56:33] _joe_: {{done}} [08:59:58] <_joe_> cdanis: {{subst:The Original Barnstar|1=For keeping up with my sarcasm. ~~~~}} [09:00:36] <_joe_> we clearly need a chat system that can parse wikitext [09:00:52] * _joe_ creates Extension:InstantMessaging [09:02:46] what would it do, draw an ascii barn star in here? [09:03:00] i have a variable width font for my chat client btw so :-P [09:03:35] <_joe_> apergos: you'd need a browser for that [09:03:54] <_joe_> apergos: also, I'd package a lame electron-based version of the interface and call it "an app" [09:05:37] someone is 🔥 🔥 🔥 today [09:05:48] <_joe_> apergos: I'm ready for the VC pitch! [09:06:22] can't wait to see the slide deck [09:06:39] <_joe_> business model: Uber for chat [09:13:40] bacula is up again [09:13:51] You can see the gap on monitoring: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/413r2vbWk/bacula [10:32:41] _joe_: Slack for public transportation is the next unicorn [10:43:57] wut? [10:46:58] <_joe_> vgutierrez: we're shitposting [10:48:28] 💩 [10:57:56] is anyone here planning on attending kubecon europe in late march? [10:59:06] Oh, kubecon used to take place near my house in amsterdam :_) [10:59:18] where is it? [10:59:35] It used to be in Amsterdam, not sure if it still is [10:59:37] In RAI [10:59:57] same place apparently [11:00:06] https://events.linuxfoundation.org/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe/ [11:00:10] I know a great thai and pizza place next to it, if needed :) [11:00:28] marostegui: it will be needed if you're coming ;) [11:00:38] thai food... I need to come back there [11:01:27] hopefully British Airways and the coronavirus won't mess with my second half of 2020 :_( [11:06:03] cc akosiaris [11:06:31] arturo: no, I am not. [11:06:39] ack [11:09:30] <_joe_> arturo: me neither; it seems it's got way too big and too commercial for my liking [11:09:43] it is! you are right [11:10:11] moreover, it seems surprising the amount of sessions and workshops requiring an additional fee [12:38:47] I'm trying to run https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Puppet-diffs/Documentation#How_to_update_the_facts_for_cloud_VMs?_(e.g._INFO:_Unable_to_find_facts_for_host_util-abogott-stretch.testlabs.eqiad.wmflabs,_skipping) [12:39:03] but am getting `Connection closed by UNKNOWN port 65535` [12:39:32] is bastion-restricted.wmflabs.org the good bast host to use? [12:40:11] it does say, "Server accepts key" before shutting down the session [12:51:28] maybe andrewbogott ^ ? :) [12:52:24] ah nevermind I think I have to follow https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Puppet-diffs/Documentation#How_to_update_the_compiler's_facts?_(e.g._INFO:_Unable_to_find_facts_for_host_conf2001.codfw.wmnet,_skipping) [12:52:54] I think restricted.bastion.wmflabs.org is the current one? [14:08:27] XioNoX: did you figure it out? I'm afk but can try it in a bit [14:09:01] andrewbogott: yep, all good, thanks! [14:09:40] Great [16:06:12] o/ [18:01:43] Is there a top-level Phab task for "move everything to Buster" (i.e., not T224549 about getting rid of jessie, but about moving everything off stretch)? [18:01:44] T224549: Track remaining jessie systems in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224549 [18:03:23] James_F: i dont think there is. i made the one for appservers because i could not find any [18:03:32] that would be a subtask of it [18:04:01] Yeah, was just wanting to scratch my itch of having a top-level task for everything like this. :-) [18:04:36] i agree. but then andre might say no tracking tasks :) [18:05:06] It's not a tracking task. [18:05:12] It's a project with a defined end state. [18:05:18] That's the opposite of a tracking task. :-) [18:05:30] tracks the progress of the project ? [18:05:44] ok, fair [18:06:29] "Tracking" tasks were Bugzilla anti-patterns where we couldn't have tasks in multiple projects, so things that were endless virtual pieces of work across a bunch of components (e.g. "make things work in RTL environments") got tracked as 'tasks'. [18:07:06] *nod* [18:29:36] moritzm: is seemingly herding all those cat [18:29:37] s [18:30:00] so i'd check in with him, James_F [18:31:39] Sure, no rush, just idle curiousity. [18:33:25] I really like tracking tasks or parent tasks or whatever you want to call them [18:33:32] just leave 'track' out of the title :-P [18:33:39] * James_F grins. [18:34:25] I've seen "umbrella task" around [18:34:30] earlier i saw "top-level task" [18:34:42] phabricator calls them "parents" [18:34:50] Well, top-level is only true until you add yet another parent. [18:35:02] as the old saying goes, it's umbrellas all the way up [18:35:14] higher-level [18:35:22] E.g. we might have a "get rid of old OSes in production as of March 2020" task, which could have "get rid of stretch machines from production" as a sub-task. [18:36:06] subtask, parent task, grandparent task [18:41:28] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riqXhieWU3M [18:42:06] that may or may not alway play in my head when linking tasks.... [19:16:40] <_joe_> mutante: please block the task on the appservers buster upgrade, it's stalled [19:16:46] <_joe_> I need to create the blocker task [19:16:48] * _joe_ off [19:17:58] _joe_: set to stalled. already added a comment it will need stuff from other teams. what stuff exactly we still need to add. cya later [20:32:18] _joe_: Will you be at the Parsoid deployment strategy meeting tomorrow PST morning? If not you, who from SRE should be there?