[05:55:47] howdie, mingle was telling me yesterday that our account will go into read-only mode in 29 days [05:56:05] any idea what's going on? expiring subscription on the master account? [07:04:57] who is the mingle admin and does he know? [08:04:32] I'm not sure who it is, marktraceur told me to mention it here :) [11:00:11] BTW, this channel should be in #wikimedia-dev. It's redundant imo. [11:00:29] That channel is sort of barely used. [11:02:19] Keeping track of team efforts takes me the effort of being in around a dozen of channels already, of which some (#mediawiki, #wikimedia-tech, #wikimedia-dev, this one) are generic (with the exception of #mediawiki, which may be non-wikimedia-specific development, but I still don't care; _all_ these channels are underused and lack proper helpers coverage). [11:27:47] I would probably even merge them all to #mediawiki. People'd finally get the amount of support they need. [12:00:47] Svetlana: I disagree. [12:01:22] (and this channel does not really need "helpers coverage" because it's not really an end-user facing help channel) [12:24:50] You're sorta isolating this topic discussion from the public. [12:25:26] Since most public hangs out at #mediawiki and the other channels. Having many may be distracting. [12:26:16] It should be perfectly fine to query team practices at #mediawiki itself, since that's the software they're developing and where all members of all teams sit (those who come to irc anyway). [12:26:23] Just my view. What to do is your call. [12:27:07] I can agree on that, since I am on 10+ related channels. But on the other hand if the discussions are here (doesn't look like it though) I can check the scrollbuffer easily [13:17:08] Yeah, I'm at 41 channels now, of which over 20 are related to Wikimedia. I feel like I'm able to help people even though there are a lot of channels. [13:17:35] -tech and #mediawiki are the only places I see new people coming in to ask for help though [13:23:14] Frankly I think having all dev chatter centered on #mediawiki is an actively bad idea. Even split between there and -dev would be harmful to our teams. [13:24:14] At least from my perspective, I'm having to fight every single day to keep our product and design people connected to IRC more than half the time, and adding a bunch of bot messages that don't pertain to our work and people asking for help with things they don't work on would probably just deter them. [13:48:43] he problem with -dev is that nobody talks there... everyone has their separate channel [13:58:35] Nikerabbit: I think most of the big overarching dev talk happens there. [13:59:03] Stuff that only involves a subsection of our developers can happen in smaller channels, it seems to make sense [13:59:12] e.g. talking about how teams operate can happen here :) [16:05:27] awjr: You're aware of the big license warning on Mingle, yeah? [16:50:09] marktraceur: nope [16:50:27] marktraceur: what's giong on? [16:52:01] awjr: Every load on the Multimedia Mingle tells us the license is about to expire in 28 days [16:52:26] scheisse [16:52:44] marktraceur: i'll look into it [16:52:49] Grazie