[00:04:54] are Max and David on the tpg mailing list yet? [15:09:37] kristenlans: Did Arthur set up etherpads for Max and David's onboarding checklists? [15:10:16] jaufrecht: Yes, max and david are on the internal list [15:10:42] meeple27: yes, he did. There are links in the meeting invite from yesterday AM (the welcome meeting w/David and MAx) [15:10:50] thanks [15:30:49] kristenlans: I suggested to David that he confirm with Arthur that he should request a headset. I assume Max should do the same. [15:31:09] Seems like it should be standard issue for SF folks, but I guess Arthur needs to decide that [15:35:35] meeple27: yeah, my assumption has been that headsets should be standard issue for everyone. But good to check that assumption ;-) [15:36:32] I had to manually request one, and David didn't get one with his laptop yesterday [15:37:14] I'll create a phab ticket for arthur to decide whether it should become automatic in the future [15:39:43] done [16:01:28] http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303395604577432341782110010 [16:08:19] jaufrecht: interesting. I didn't even think about heaphones for music (I've never been able to work while listening to music, too distracting!). I was thinking that the main use case for headphones is one on one meetings with remote colleagues and remote pairing. [16:17:06] I always end up in one of the phone booths for 1-1 calls, where headphones are unnecessary. the open office spaces are too loud to have calls in, especially if other people are having calls. [16:19:27] meeple27: you're right about the headphones - i thought OIT made them standard-issue, but apparently not. i'll followup with everyone to get david and max headsets [16:44:45] jaufrecht: A headset has nicer audio even if you're in a phone booth. And (before the 5th floor opened) I had cases where I couldn't find an open phone booth. Seems to be less of a problem now, but still theoretically possible. [16:47:14] jaufrecht: Interesting article. I think it might have been in the book Peopleware where they cited a study showing that listening to music impaired the ability for people to make large creative leaps of logic. Which is a pretty important part of programming [16:47:40] Does that include EDM? ;) [17:05:56] mbinder__: ooh! boardgames! We need to talk! [17:08:50] mbinder__: i feel like a while back i read some article that said in some study EDM decreased alertness and increased agression... although i personally find the opposite to be true. then again, EDM is like, an infinitely broad spectrum of music, so... lots of variables. [17:15:15] meeple27: are you the turquoise color on david's onboarding etherpad? [17:15:46] awjr: sounds right. My name was there earlier. [17:15:56] :) [17:16:08] i like your suggestion for having the new hire add themselves to the team page [17:16:20] i'm going to move that item [17:16:21] Do any OSX users have a prefered IRC client? Our Wiki page suggests lingo. I also found Adium. [17:16:26] oh now you're purple [17:16:36] yup [17:16:55] Dstrine: lingo is no longer maintained, i dunno why that's being recommended [17:17:17] Dstrine: i used to use Adium and was very happy with it - i used it as my chat client for all of my chat services, it was nice to have it all in one place [17:17:18] it also notes that on the wiki lol [17:18:30] Dstrine: i am now using irccloud https://www.irccloud.com which is a web-based chat client that maintains a persistent connection to IRC, so you can see scrollback in channels from while you were otherwise offline. it also provides an awesome app for ios/android - i am happy to approve the expense for an account [17:18:41] Dstrine: i think jaufrecht and meeple27 are also using irccloud [17:18:46] Dstrine: If you're in your onboarding etherpad, please click the head icon in the upper right and make sure your name is set [17:19:08] * meeple27 boldly rejects closed source software whenever practical [17:19:18] I use pidgin on LInux [17:19:37] :D [17:19:44] pidgin is basically the same thing as adium [17:20:25] I will say that if I didn't have my own server to run znc on, I would probably run irccloud (assuming it has a linux client) [17:20:41] "practical" being the keyword there [17:20:45] meeple27: aye - it runs in a browser [17:21:21] meeple27: i'm actually connecting irccloud to my own znc instance :p [17:21:33] so i still get some of the znc bells and whistles [17:21:45] I wish I could get out of my browser more. I would love to run the standlone gmail app, for example, but can't because I can't get bigger than a 3-point font [17:22:08] heh [17:22:10] I would like to be able to switch apps by clicking on a mail icon, cal icon, etc [17:22:54] meeple27: as you're making changes to the content in the onboarding etherpad - can you also be sure to update the wiki page so your changes persist? [17:23:35] awjr: yup [17:24:06] some are gray areas between "Just for David because Kevin thinks so" and "should be official moving forward", but I'll figure those out [17:24:17] sounds good meeple27 thanks [17:25:51] I'm super-happy with irccloud. And it has a great android app. [17:26:22] jaufrecht: yeah! i had give up all hope with IRC on android until i saw the irccloud app [17:26:31] *given [17:32:40] meeple27: I saw your old welcome email referred to Pandemic, and I'm proud to share that I was part of a crack team this past weekend that eradicated all 4 diseases on Heroic mode :) [17:34:02] hooray for saving the world! [17:36:42] we can't play anymore, nothing compares [17:43:33] I think our Pandemic record is about 2-10 [17:44:14] ha, so is ours, don't worry. The quarantine specialist saved us every round that game. [17:44:59] Now that we've eliminated all known threat to the planet, though, it's time for the expansion where you get to be the disease (srsly) [18:31:48] * kristenlans waves to mbinder and dstrine [19:43:30] 6Team-Practices: Configure #wikimedia-teampractices to allow color - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100547#1338626 (10Awjrichards) I went ahead and just did this :) [19:46:07] awjr: Breaking the process! [19:46:30] meeple27: :p [19:46:53] meeple27: it seemed like a good usecase for seeing if i could remember irc commands :p [19:47:15] :) you are forgiven [20:56:40] 6Team-Practices: Should Team Practices onboarding automatically issue a headset? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101405#1338883 (10Awjrichards) FWIW i have an open issue with OIT about this. I am keen on seeing IRCCloud set up and headsets be default/standard issue (and indeed thought that was already the c... [20:59:09] 6Team-Practices: declutter/organize Team Practices Group team page on mediawiki.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98520#1338896 (10Awjrichards) @JAufrecht can we call this done since you've done a lot to clean up the page? [21:25:55] 6Team-Practices: Document plans for improving the tech debt situation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96071#1338965 (10ggellerman) Grace and Dan Duval to meet 2015-06-16 and Grace to document decisions/next steps in wiki [21:26:47] 6Team-Practices: Consult on Kanban for Readership - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96340#1338968 (10KLans_WMF) [21:26:49] 6Team-Practices: Consult on Kanban for Readership - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96340#1338970 (10ggellerman) Kevin Smith talking to Readership teams on Mon 2015-06-08 [21:31:18] 6Team-Practices, 7Epic: EPIC: Review and revise Team Health Check for Q4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97565#1338981 (10ksmith) [21:46:23] 6Team-Practices, 7Epic: [EPIC] Complete TPG Glossary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99953#1339063 (10mbinder) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Team_Practices_Group/Glossary [21:55:19] 6Team-Practices, 7Epic: [EPIC] Schedule Q4 Team Health Checks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100675#1339102 (10ksmith) [21:58:02] oo colors [22:08:54] I don't see any colors [22:09:10] not in irccloud? [22:09:23] jaufrect: they can be seen in phabricator notices, which I believe you said you had filtered out [22:09:43] jaufrecht: ^ [22:10:23] huh - when I unfilter, they don't come back. I really wanted mute, not filter, so I could get them back. That's twice in one day that a poor implementation of transactions has displeased me. [22:16:24] :( [22:17:01] shoot. I was hoping grace was here so I could apologize for not including a tag in my zombie email [22:17:23] although I'm not sure what I would tag it. FYI and ANYONE don't feel right, and it's sure not urgent. Perhaps we need a [RAMBLE] keyword [22:17:29] [RUMINATION] [22:18:20] jaufrecht: The colors aren't too exciting, really. The project name and the name of the user who made the change are now purple and green, respectively [23:18:52] 6Team-Practices, 6Phabricator, 6Research-and-Data: Migration of Research & Data to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T826#1339492 (10ggellerman) Research team is in Phab. Per @DarTar the remaining Trello boards do not need to be migrated. [23:21:23] 6Team-Practices, 6Phabricator, 6Research-and-Data: Migration of Research & Data to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T826#1339511 (10ggellerman) [23:23:54] Wanted to share this before I misplace it: "Leadership is the art of disappointing people at a rate they can tolerate" [23:26:28] awjr, that's apropos our conversation yesterday about the mode of leadership that we'd like to advocate for. [23:26:35] In the Steve Jobs model, leaders push teams of people to accomplish things; the teams are there to be extensions of the leader's will. [23:28:59] In a collaborative or servant leadership model, the leaders are there to do things that self-organizing groups of people don't do well: solve collective action problems, do resource allocation, etc. [23:30:16] which means that a collaborative leader's daily task is to figure out what is most essential and support it, which means not supporting everything else. so their job is to say No a lot more often than Yes, and to make that No palatable. [23:30:27] jaufrecht: I assigned the needs review ticket back to you, and forgot to @ you so I don't know what kind of notification you'll get [23:30:44] (nice thoughts on leadership, btw) [23:32:37] thx - been working for years on trying to articulate this better. Still a work in progress. [23:32:43] dstrine: let me know how this looked [23:34:14] meeple27: thanks [23:48:24] jaufrecht: yes :) [23:53:42] dstrine: just got an email from OIT saying that you should have an invitation for IRCCloud in your inbox [23:53:45] did you get it? [23:53:59] I'm on it now! thanks! [23:54:03] :D [23:54:05] this is waaay better [23:54:12] \0/ [23:59:01] Did we make a decision about having a shovel-ready column in the Team-Practices workboard? [23:59:41] that would address the issue of not wanting to look at top stories many times even after they are ready, which I'm pretty we discussed Wednesday