[02:36:58] 6Team-Practices, 6Project-Creators, 6Release-Engineering: Create a generic "Release" tag in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99143#1416369 (10Fjalapeno) Great - thanks! [16:33:13] jaufrecht: If we were to play around with phragile graphing, is there a VE sprint/project that would be a nice spike to try? [16:34:02] spike? [16:34:08] In general, try VE 2015 Q3 [16:35:23] spike = pilot (ish) [16:35:59] i don't see any VE 2015 Q3 [16:36:38] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/visualeditor_2014_15_q3_blockers/ [16:36:41] it's closed [16:37:00] ah. is there a forward-looking one (yet)? [16:37:37] (keeping in mind that the main new feature is the ability to do a burnup with a changing scope but only via snapshots, not history) [17:05:00] jaufrecht: i talked to apergos (ariel glenn, who is the opsen who deals with dumps and who's patch will be getting you what you need) - she said it'll be her top focus tomorrow and will try to get a good dump for us then [17:05:24] she's in europe, so hopefully it will be done relatively early in the day PDT [17:17:17] cool [17:17:21] thanks [18:10:52] jaufrecht: are there any open/forward-looking VE projects that have story points that would be fun to graph? [18:13:54] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/1297/ [18:14:10] or https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/483/ [19:32:57] 6Team-Practices, 6Release-Engineering: Do 90 day review of post-offsite actions in early August '15 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103917#1418444 (10Awjrichards) [19:33:37] meeple27: I will attend backlog grooming, but be a little late [19:33:55] kristenlans: ok [19:36:43] 6Team-Practices, 7Epic: EPIC: Review and revise Team Health Check for Q4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97565#1418449 (10JAufrecht) Adding note from triage: we will also need to update the report and SOPs after the health check is done. [19:38:12] 6Team-Practices, 7Epic: EPIC: Review and revise Team Health Check for Q4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97565#1418458 (10ksmith) [19:38:13] 6Team-Practices: Adjust Team Health Check template to reflect new sequence of focus areas - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102182#1418455 (10ksmith) 5Open>3declined a:3ksmith Since we aren't doing this during this quarter, we are declining. Might revisit later, with a new phab ticket. [19:42:16] 6Team-Practices: Prepare a presentation on software methodology and TPG's approach and services - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99559#1418463 (10JAufrecht) 5Open>3declined a:3JAufrecht Triage: blocked by new Q1 goal to determine mission for TPG. won't deal with this for months. [19:42:53] 6Team-Practices: Maybe write a blog post about Team Health Check results - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96070#1418467 (10ksmith) 5Open>3declined a:3ksmith We will revisit in the future, at which point we will reopen or create a new ticket. [19:43:48] 6Team-Practices: Write blogpost on AnEng decision to move from Scrum to Kanban and experience with Kanban - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99142#1418471 (10ggellerman) p:5Normal>3Low [19:46:16] 6Team-Practices: Audit the current WMF list of Phabricator unmet needs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101562#1418491 (10JAufrecht) 5Open>3declined a:3JAufrecht abandoned as unlikely to lead to productive work (too big, too tied up in other work) [19:46:54] 6Team-Practices: Explore Team Practices support for WMF internal tool hacking - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98638#1418496 (10ksmith) 5Open>3declined a:3ksmith We don't see enough need for this in the next quarter. Might revisit later. [19:48:48] 6Team-Practices: [EPIC] 2nd pass on bookshelf/reading list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94475#1418505 (10ggellerman) [19:49:13] 6Team-Practices, 7Epic: [EPIC] 2nd pass on bookshelf/reading list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94475#1164382 (10ggellerman) [19:49:36] 6Team-Practices: Remote Best Practices talk - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91319#1418508 (10ksmith) 5Open>3declined a:3ksmith The "We are all remoties" talk served this need. [19:55:20] 6Team-Practices: Establish a TPG community of practice - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92048#1418521 (10ksmith) 5Open>3declined a:3ksmith Might revisit after we have the new TPG vision and strategy figured out. [20:16:53] 6Team-Practices: Get regular traffic reports on TPG pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99815#1418602 (10ggellerman) Checked with Kevin Leduc, this data is available in Hadoop. However, only as of May 1, 2015. Analytics Engineering could teach how to write the SQL query. Also, it would not be possible... [20:30:18] kristenlans: After the call, we realized we had kind of skipped over a couple items at the top of the backlog that had Kristen written all over them [20:30:39] if you see any of "your" items up there that you think should be cut or moved dramatically in priority, help yourself [20:30:40] meeple27: oh yeah? I can groom async right now if you're up fo rit [20:31:36] sure [20:32:04] I think the 2nd and 3rd ones on the list (spotify and bug fields) were the ones [20:33:02] spoitfy I would like to do and plan to do this week [20:33:26] bug fields woul dbe great to chat w/andre about tomorrow if that's in scope for tea time... [20:34:35] what are bug fields? link welcome [20:34:41] task types? [20:34:48] andre__: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92708 [20:34:56] oh crap i didn't know you were listening ;-) [20:35:09] kristenlans: so we can just leave those both where they are for now [20:35:22] in the upcoming meeting, we can pull them into this week if appropriate [20:35:27] just wanted to make sure they were still valid [20:35:39] meeple27: sounds good, thanks for checking :-) [20:36:07] I don't really plan to talk too much about specific Phab implementation tomorrow, rather a bit high-level about our areas and workflows in order to not duplicate work [20:36:20] and everything I can say about https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92708 is written in that task I'm afraid [20:36:20] andre__: that's fine by me :-) [20:36:31] * andre__ re-reads it, just to make sure [20:52:15] awjr: I just realized we don't have a room for the retro in 9 minutes, and none are "available" [20:53:55] wut [20:53:58] crap [20:56:07] maybe we can snag one from someone who is that token SF person in the huge empty room [20:56:12] any look like that? [20:56:20] meeple27: jaufrecht ggellerman______ mbinder dstrine-hiding head's up that our retro will be in r35 [20:56:42] mega-thanks for a) noticing the lack of room and b) figuring out that we could hijack r35 :) [20:59:11] thanks to grace for knowing who's not going to need this room [21:02:02] after re-reading https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92708 I realize it's a complete mess [21:02:03] So thanks for making me comment on that again :) [21:02:20] 6Team-Practices, 6Phabricator: Add fields to support bug related information for Wikimedia Apps team - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92708#1418721 (10Aklapper) I see several related aspects mixed in this task. 1) //When reporting a task/bug//, having several mandatory/required and partially machine-reada... [21:55:03] 6Team-Practices: Figure out how/when TPG can discuss work-related stuff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104503#1418917 (10ksmith) 3NEW [22:06:25] jaufrecht: mbinder dstrine-hiding do you guys mind if I sign up one of each of you to observe/help with note takign fro the three health checks that I am facilitating? [22:06:49] yes please [22:06:57] i mean, don't mind, please do sign me up. [22:07:08] :-) thanks jaufrecht [22:15:45] awjr ggellerman______ meeple27 I think we had a previous convention of inviting other TPGers to the health checks we facilitate. Has that chicken flown the coop now that we are seven strong? [22:15:57] seven strong chickens [22:23:33] kristenlans: [22:23:37] I can help [22:23:51] mbinder: thank ye! [22:24:32] 🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔 [22:55:58] 🐖