[08:58:39] 6Team-Practices, 6Project-Creators: Create #201516-Q1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106752#1502468 (10Aklapper) Adding #Team-Practices to hopefully get more from them and get this sorted out. [14:56:11] 6Team-Practices, 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-August-2015, 3ECT-July-2015: Goal: Reduce code review queues and waiting times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101686#1503133 (10Qgil) [16:59:08] jaufrecht: Did your "brain dump on more THC chat" notes from Friday get saved somewhere other than IRC? [17:22:56] not yet [17:25:48] furthermore, I suggest that we clarify the 1 to 5 scale for Communication, and maybe for some other areas, by using terminology from expensive woo-based audio consumer electronics: http://www.audiostream.com/content/audioquest-vodka-ethernet-cable-and-diamond-ethernet-cable [17:26:53] 1: utter ineffectualness. 5: blossoms more fully, greater clarity and relative ease [17:36:31] there's a place for all those comments, you know [17:37:49] https://docs.google.com/document/d/162ZMqt6W4I9q0mIImsRb1VTZKhbsNEvtEuIH39tEfrw/edit#heading=h.hrxu4fe2tbur [18:01:54] 6Team-Practices, 6Phabricator, 7Epic: [EPIC] Gather requirements from teams for Phab project management feature requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105404#1503732 (10MBinder_WMF) @Qgil Thanks for that reasoning. The main issue some teams are having is that they would like to estimate items in their... [18:16:06] Anyone know of a way to change Phab columns to count task cards rather than story points? Ex: iOS team uses points to measure velocity, but WIP for kanban-style board. Most of the time, it's more useful to count tasks rather than points. [18:17:54] 6Team-Practices, 6Phabricator, 7Epic: [EPIC] Gather requirements from teams for Phab project management feature requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105404#1503776 (10MBinder_WMF) @KLans_WMF thanks for that link @Dstrine have we compared this list to existing, already-upstreamed (already on Phabric... [19:49:44] mbinder: my understanding is that if you say it's a sprint, you get story points and those are summed. Else, stories are counted. I'm not aware of a way to have hybrid behavior [19:50:39] 6Team-Practices, 6Phabricator, 3ECT-August-2015: Document Phabricator Spaces for teams - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105742#1504231 (10Aklapper) >>! In T94108#1503179, @mmodell wrote: > I think that's about right, yeah... Thanks @mmodell. Documentation updated: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?t... [19:52:21] meeple27: mine, too. Followup question, if I was to make this a ticket for phab feature request, is there a better process for seeing existing requests besides digging through that board? [19:53:02] dstrine is the expert in searching phab....I trust you have read his amazing page on the topic [19:53:32] and as a bright note, we (wmfde) control the Sprint Extension, which is where this change you want would be made, so it wouldn't have to survive the phacility gauntlet [19:53:49] 6Team-Practices, 6Phabricator, 7Epic: [EPIC] Gather requirements from teams for Phab project management feature requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105404#1504246 (10MBinder_WMF) @KLans_WMF @DStrine @JAufrecht What do you guys think about umbrella-ing existing requests that are related to this epi... [19:54:20] * dstrine waves [19:54:31] herro [19:54:45] thoughts on finding redundant tasks? [19:54:54] 6Team-Practices, 6Phabricator, 7Epic: [EPIC] Gather requirements from teams for Phab project management feature requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105404#1504247 (10KLans_WMF) I think it would be useful, and I don't think it would cause any harm. [19:55:50] Meeple27: and mbinder: The maniphest search doesn't look for any data regarding the column in a board. Phacility has denied serval requests on this topic [19:56:23] dstrine: I'm thinking maybe a Phab search brown bag could be useful... [19:56:25] it doesn't mean we can't make a counter argument in the future [19:57:05] mbinder: yeah several people have asked [19:57:10] I would totally be down [19:57:33] I say just sched one a ways from now and announce it :) [19:58:19] 6Team-Practices, 6Engineering-Community, 10Gerrit-Migration, 3ECT-August-2015: Goal: Organize a Gerrit Cleanup Day - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88531#1504263 (10Aklapper) p:5Normal>3High [20:31:41] awjr hangout is ringing...ringing... [20:32:23] now is ee you but can't hear :-( [20:32:28] kristenlans: im in - no audio from you though [20:46:31] 6Team-Practices, 6Phabricator, 7Epic: [EPIC] Gather requirements from teams for Phab project management feature requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105404#1504386 (10Aklapper) [20:47:53] regarding searching for columns, that's https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78426 and the upstream comment is here: https://secure.phabricator.com/T5970#74733 [20:48:31] which also covers what upstream would prefer to target first: Support workboard column triggers which activate when a task is dropped into a column [20:49:14] (and in general: if you are looking for task IDs about specific Phabricator functionality, feel free to ping me - happy to help) [20:53:20] mbinder: andre__ is da bomb [20:55:04] naah. I just like remembering bug IDs [20:55:41] but in case you ever feel like discussing with upstream, it's highly recommended to first check out their (technical) argumentation and get prepared. Because they normally have good points. :) [20:58:33] upstream tends to have very strong assumptions, which if you accept, then yes, they tend to have good points to remain consistent with those [20:58:59] it's like how rails is "opinionated software", which is both good and bad [21:01:19] Upstream is surely opinionated but damn active and responsive. Which I love compared to getting basically no feedback at all from upstream, like in Bugzilla. :) [21:21:24] 6Team-Practices: Run a Brownbag on Maniphset searches and Phabricator dashboards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107801#1504467 (10DStrine) 3NEW a:3DStrine [21:26:30] 6Team-Practices: Run a Brownbag on Maniphest searches and Phabricator dashboards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107801#1504494 (10MBinder_WMF) [21:29:11] 6Team-Practices: Run a Brownbag on Maniphest searches and Phabricator dashboards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107801#1504512 (10Aklapper) > Investigate how to schedule a WMF-wide brownbag. https://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings#Colloquium_.2F_Brown_bag_lunch and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tech_ta... [21:40:02] 6Team-Practices: Run a Brownbag on Maniphest searches and Phabricator dashboards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107801#1504548 (10DStrine) note to self: talk to Sarah Rodlun about AV setup [23:49:03] 6Team-Practices: Work with more teams to start collecting Interrupt % data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107824#1505049 (10JAufrecht) 3NEW a:3JAufrecht