[14:13:32] <wikibugs>	 6Team-Practices, 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-September-2015: Goal: Organize a Gerrit Cleanup Day on September 23, 2015 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88531#1630517 (10Aklapper)
[14:44:05] <wikibugs>	 6Team-Practices, 6Engineering-Community, 3ECT-September-2015: Goal: Organize a Gerrit Cleanup Day on September 23, 2015 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88531#1630585 (10Aklapper)
[16:55:11] <bd808>	 jaufrecht: I'm not going to get to doing a better review of your burnup code before I go on vacation. :/ sorry
[16:55:25] <jaufrecht>	 no worries
[16:55:38] <bd808>	 is the VM at least working for you?
[17:24:57] <jaufrecht>	 check it out: http://phlogiston.wmflabs.org/
[17:44:30] <meeple27>	 phlogiston is real!
[19:47:16] <kristen|away>	 ermagerd bd808 is this your last day before vacation?!?
[19:52:13] <meeple27>	 bd808 is allowed to take vacation?
[20:03:10] <bd808>	 kristen|away: hells yeah. I'm out of here in ~3 hours for a nice long trip to the South Pacific :)
[20:07:16] <kristen|away>	 sweet have a great time!
[20:07:21] <kristen|away>	 bd808^
[20:08:05] <bd808>	 I'll give it a shot.
[20:08:33] * bd808 will read and drink rum and sleep in a hammock at minimum
[20:15:04] <awjr>	  bd808 good luck having fun in fiji, i hear that place sucks
[20:16:00] <bd808>	 :) it's a real burden to have to go but I feel like I'm obligated to at this point
[20:20:25] <awjr>	 good ol' bd808, always taking one for the team.
[20:52:50] <kristen|away>	 TPG, I am up against a deadline to finish pre-weekend so I will miss TEA :-(
[21:55:03] <dstrine>	 awjr: I think I have an answer for your "flat KPI" question
[21:55:40] <dstrine>	 if a team is consistently delivering a KPI and it needs to stay consistent then there is no reason to add anyone  
[21:56:08] <dstrine>	 there can be perfectly good reasons to take no action 
[21:57:40] <dstrine>	 we could tell execs what the expected impact would be if we added a TPGer and the ultimate call would be to say "no" and give a TPGer to another team 
[22:00:13] <awjr>	 :)
[22:00:56] <awjr>	 alternatively, measure t he amount of time the KPI remains flat, and use that as your rate
[22:01:38] <awjr>	 assuming the KPI is measured continuously or frequently
[22:01:41] <dstrine>	 yes, the addition of the person could ensure consistency 
[22:01:49] <dstrine>	 yeah
[22:03:31] <awjr>	 jaufrecht: have you seen the comment in the current draft of goals for you?
[22:03:55] <awjr>	 jaufrecht: i could use your help resolving the issue around quantifying 'engineering teams'
[23:38:34] <jaufrecht>	 Sorry, just saw this. Looks like you took it out? That seems safest.
[23:39:40] <jaufrecht>	 I see it. Looks fine.