[07:08:35] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-October-2015: Goal: Reduce code review queues and waiting times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101686#1673642 (10Qgil) An experiment: {T113695}. #developer-relations could be in charge of filing a task like this for the repository //leading// the classific... [09:20:18] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Cut off date for abandoning old commits - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113706#1673884 (10Qgil) 3NEW [09:29:52] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Define Cut-off date for abandoning old changesets in our code review tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113706#1673915 (10Aklapper) [09:41:28] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Wikimedia Foundation service-level agreement on code review times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113707#1673927 (10Qgil) 3NEW [09:56:05] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-September-2015, 3Labs-Sprint-115, and 2 others: Goal: Organize a Gerrit Cleanup Day on September 23, 2015 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88531#1674001 (10Aklapper) [15:57:16] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Define Cut-off date for abandoning old changesets in our code review tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113706#1674902 (10JanZerebecki) Simply closing a review request that was never responded to since time x seems like the opposite of what we want. Or if it were i... [15:58:17] Running a few minutes late to the meeting [16:42:53] 6Team-Practices, 10Phlogiston: Refactor file structure of load_transactions_from_dump.py - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113661#1675090 (10JAufrecht) [16:42:54] 6Team-Practices, 10Phlogiston: Create model project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113536#1675091 (10JAufrecht) [16:42:55] 6Team-Practices, 10Phlogiston, 3Team-Practices-This-Week: Generate Maintenance Fraction reports for all available data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113273#1675094 (10JAufrecht) [16:42:57] 6Team-Practices, 10Phlogiston: Chart or query to answer "recent work has been in which categories?" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113424#1675093 (10JAufrecht) [16:42:59] 6Team-Practices, 10Phlogiston, 10VisualEditor: Generate Burnup chart with maintenance shown below the axis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113270#1675096 (10JAufrecht) [16:43:02] 6Team-Practices, 10Phlogiston, 10VisualEditor: VE Project Burnup chart showing burnup separately for each tranche - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113271#1675095 (10JAufrecht) [18:01:46] meeple27: I declined the Discovery logistics mtg.(doesn't feel like I'll add much there), but I'll be at the agenda meeting following. [18:02:26] meeple27: But I'm open to attending logistics if you think that would be helpful to you :) [18:12:01] meeple27: your loomio proposal seems to be doing quite well so far :) [18:13:58] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Wikimedia Foundation service-level agreement on code review times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113707#1675636 (10Tgr) Sumana shared an interesting blog post some time ago on how to do code review in a way that reduces time spent on it (by both parties): http://sar... [18:15:40] meeple27: your topic actually made me interact with loomio! win win! [18:16:02] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Wikimedia Foundation service-level agreement on code review times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113707#1675641 (10Tgr) For core (and possibly other large projects), sending non-realtime notifications to maintainers is probably blocked by T63463. [18:21:07] kristenlans: I think that's OK. Can you help flesh out details of the supplies we need (in the doc)? [18:21:34] also if you can think of other logistical issues I should be asking about, that would be great. This morning I remembered to ask about dietary restrictions for the catered meals [18:22:43] awjr dstrine \o/ for speedy meetings [18:22:49] (and dstrine: You commented but didn't vote) [18:23:07] :( [18:23:20] * dstrine is trying to learn [18:24:26] there we go [18:25:05] can't wait! want it now https://media.giphy.com/media/Ij87d6qbAhdJe/giphy.gif [19:22:34] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Wikimedia Foundation service-level agreement on code review times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113707#1675904 (10Nemo_bis) [19:22:58] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Wikimedia Foundation service-level agreement on code review times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113707#1673927 (10Nemo_bis) Phabricator made things worse for those who cared because it lacks basic functionality, see T76825. [19:25:28] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Define Cut-off date for abandoning old changesets in our code review tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113706#1675923 (10Nemo_bis) [19:25:44] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Define Cut-off date for abandoning old changesets in our code review tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113706#1673884 (10Nemo_bis) Nothing new happened in the past years, hence see comments on the past threads. [19:26:26] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Wikimedia Foundation service-level agreement on code review times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113707#1675927 (10Aklapper) This task is about code review times, not about sending reminders about some open tasks. [19:26:33] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Wikimedia Foundation service-level agreement on code review times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113707#1675928 (10Aklapper) [19:39:18] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Wikimedia Foundation service-level agreement on code review times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113707#1675955 (10Nemo_bis) I dispute the difference. [19:39:29] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Wikimedia Foundation service-level agreement on code review times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113707#1675956 (10Nemo_bis) [20:12:00] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Wikimedia Foundation service-level agreement on code review times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113707#1676163 (10scfc) @Nemo_bis: This would (inter alia) require that there were no commits to be reviewed that did not have an associated Phabricator task, which you... [20:17:04] awjr: could you weigh in on the "games" email thread, given your knowledge of the devsummit event? Would it be worth proposing? [20:21:04] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Define Cut-off date for abandoning old changesets in our code review tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113706#1676180 (10Tgr) Is there a specific goal this is supposed to achieve, or just a general sentiment that the room looks nicer when old stuff is swept under... [20:23:38] 6Team-Practices, 6Community-Advocacy, 6Developer-Relations, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit-2016, 3DevRel-September-2015: Goal: Binding code of conduct for all Wikimedia technical spaces with consequences for breaches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90908#1676195 (10Mattflaschen) If there's a session a... [20:48:06] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Define Cut-off date for abandoning old changesets in our code review tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113706#1676473 (10Reedy) >>! In T113706#1676180, @Tgr wrote: > Is there a specific goal this is supposed to achieve, or just a general sentiment that the room lo... [21:04:45] meeple27: yeah i'll try to d that before eod [21:56:03] Is there a name specifically for writing a loop and forgetting to add the incrementor that will cause the loop to end [21:56:04] ? [21:58:58] (just in case I was to see somebody else do this in their code and wanted to know the right term for it when I told them) [22:10:04] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Define Cut-off date for abandoning old changesets in our code review tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113706#1676726 (10Tgr) >>! In T113706#1676473, @Reedy wrote: > Conversely, what does keeping them around (non abandoned) actually do? Motivate people (even if j... [22:20:10] jaufrecht: not aware of a specific term, other than accidental infinite loop [23:49:11] 6Team-Practices, 6Developer-Relations: Define Cut-off date for abandoning old changesets in our code review tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113706#1676956 (10jayvdb) 'Abandoning changesets' in our current code review tool configuration means dumping a changeset into an unfilterable pile of crap. I h...