[16:43:41] morning awjr! are you joining the 9 AM or flying? [17:58:14] Mbinder probably obvious by now, but flying :) I just landed - and realized in my note on the invite I forgot to take into account the time change [19:04:40] jaufrecht_: can you point me to the "How to Phlog" documentation? [19:34:12] 6Team-Practices, 7Epic, 7Milestone: [EPIC] Five high-priority project management-related Phabricator feature requests upstreamed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117608#1866503 (10Awjrichards) p:5Triage>3High [19:35:14] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phlogiston#Configuring_Phabricator [19:37:15] 6Team-Practices: Research optimal times for meetings across WMF - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120737#1866509 (10DStrine) p:5Triage>3Normal [19:42:20] 6Team-Practices, 7Epic: Update Team Practices on status of phragile graphing improvements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104618#1866534 (10ksmith) Max has been updated. [19:44:16] 6Team-Practices: EPIC: Roll out phragile to a wider audience - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107442#1866538 (10ksmith) 5Open>3declined a:3ksmith Declining because a) phragile is being de-emphasized somewhat, and b) whatever rollout we do will be incremental, not sweeping. Tasks for increments in the r... [19:48:42] 6Team-Practices, 15User-JAufrecht: Pilot a per-project wiki page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120991#1866550 (10JAufrecht) 3NEW a:3JAufrecht [19:49:12] 6Team-Practices: Document cost/benefit of Phlogiston and Phragile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120271#1866561 (10Awjrichards) p:5Normal>3Low [19:51:21] 6Team-Practices: Document cost/benefit of teams using Phlogiston and Phragile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120271#1866565 (10MBinder_WMF) [19:54:15] 6Team-Practices, 15User-JAufrecht: Make recommendations for Maintenance Fraction for all teams - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109878#1866570 (10JAufrecht) This task is specifically to synthesize all of the conflicting definitions of Maintenance Fraction from the pilot and produce a consistent definition... [19:54:17] 6Team-Practices: Document cost/benefit of teams using Phlogiston and Phragile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120271#1866575 (10MBinder_WMF) Some costs and benefits of full Phlogiston adoption documented at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phlogiston. [19:58:29] 6Team-Practices, 15User-JAufrecht: Make recommendations for Maintenance Fraction for all teams - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109878#1866592 (10JAufrecht) [20:12:45] 6Team-Practices, 15User-JAufrecht: Pilot a per-project wiki page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120991#1866651 (10JAufrecht) Thoughts about meeting notes best practice: - one wiki page per meeting - name like WMF 2015-11-10 Phlogiston Meeting notes - how are they tagged or otherwise given machine-readabl... [20:22:38] jaufrecht_: dstrine awjr food at 3rd floor lunch table [21:01:18] 6Team-Practices: Research optimal times for meetings across WMF - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120737#1866849 (10Aklapper) Assuming this is about WMF staff only, with people all across Northern America, Europe, India and Australia (to just name some areas) I guess that something around 09:00PST / 17:00UTC... [21:02:59] kristenlans: we're ready in r35 [21:12:23] 6Team-Practices: EPIC: Roll out phragile to a wider audience - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107442#1866919 (10Aklapper) > Declining because a) phragile is being de-emphasized somewhat Could you elaborate what that means? [22:18:21] 6Team-Practices: EPIC: Roll out phragile to a wider audience - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107442#1867228 (10ksmith) >>! In T107442#1866919, @Aklapper wrote: >> Declining because a) phragile is being de-emphasized somewhat > > Could you elaborate what that means? Terry (former COO) was pushing hard for... [22:19:08] 6Team-Practices: EPIC: Roll out phragile to a wider audience - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107442#1867232 (10Aklapper) I see. Thanks a lot for explaining! I learned something. :) [22:30:24] 6Team-Practices: EPIC: Roll out phragile to a wider audience - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107442#1867316 (10JAufrecht) I'll add some more written documentation of current verbal discussions. Phlogiston does burnups, velocity charting, velocity backcasting, maintenance fraction measurement and charting,... [22:37:17] 6Team-Practices, 10Phlogiston: Make a page that collects all Maintenance Fraction data across teams - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121028#1867350 (10JAufrecht) 3NEW