[00:06:22] mbinder: oh, I see. Yes, but note that they still have to come before the more general category in the sort order. [00:24:13] mbinder: Out of curiousity, dmitri is acting in a PM role? [00:34:04] 6Team-Practices, 6Community-Liaison, 10WMF-Product-Development-Process, 3Liaisons-March-2016: Checklist for project concepts to be considered for prioritization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120070#2010355 (10Keegan) p:5Triage>3Normal [00:35:07] 6Team-Practices, 6Community-Liaison, 6Developer-Relations, 10WMF-Product-Development-Process, 3Liaisons-February-2016: Proposal: any WMF software project willing to be prioritized requires a concept publicly available - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118231#2010360 (10Keegan) a:3Keegan [00:46:47] meeple27: yep, he's been in that role since the reorg [00:47:17] cool. good to know. would be nice to get that "fixed" at some point, I would think. thanks. [00:47:52] meeple27: yea, the fact that the android team keeps cranking out good work at a fast pace probably makes others think it's not a high prioirty [00:48:33] jaufrecht_: why do hey have to come before the more general category? Presumably, "other" is work that is relevant but uncategorized, and "cruft" is the stuff that lives in the backlog forever and ever [01:14:43] * meeple27 high-fives himself for trimming his non-FYI inbox down to 18 threads [04:40:22] mbinder: if phlogiston matches the more general category before the more specific, then the more specific will be empty. [16:35:35] kristen|afk: are we going to have enough hangout slots for that Gather meeting or do we need to find someone who can setup bluejeans? [16:36:39] bd808: I just did a count of anticipated remote attendance and it *seems* like it will be OK..."-/ [16:37:01] oops my nick [16:37:14] assuming JonR, Adam, etc actually go into the office [16:37:34] I guess we'll find out in a bit [16:38:04] bd808: right. Perhaps it would be prudent to have a bluejeans in the wing...would you be up for hitting up OIT? [16:38:14] Are we going to do notes on etherpad or is this a sekr3t discussion? [16:38:45] I can try to poke OIT; or poke someone in SF to poke them [16:39:04] bd808: I assumed etherpad...but we can discuss at outset of meeting. [16:39:23] bd808 thanks for raising both of these :-) [16:40:04] bd808: just added the etherpad link to calendar invite, FYI [16:40:18] cool beans! [16:40:30] * bd808 is looking for OIT in other channels [16:45:56] kristenlans: I got a bluejeans meeting running. I'll PM the link to you for the invite [16:46:10] thx bd808 [16:55:59] bd808: I think I'd like to try hangouts first, and if we blow it up we can migrate [16:56:10] k [16:56:44] I'll keep the bluejeans (the abbreviation that came to mind for that is unfortunate) room open [16:57:07] kewl, thx bd808 [17:43:34] jaufrecht_ FYI phabricator is planning to have a new project type named "milestone" (which will be sort of like a sprint). Probably just increases the need to rename what you're currently calling milestones [17:43:49] (unless it could map directly, but I don't think that's the case) [17:45:07] Upstream "milestones" won't be project types [17:46:28] Uh. They do behave a lot like projects indeed. I'm sorry. Just testing it a bit more... [17:47:08] Urgh. That UI still confuses me. [17:47:14] * andre__ shuts up [17:47:42] If anyone has questions or wishes to comment on phab updates, please discuss here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/Z308 [17:48:12] it's a public conversation. anyone can join. [17:51:52] dstrine: Yup, thanks. just wanted to give a quick heads-up on it to joel. Discussion over there, please. [18:11:15] hey [18:14:42] dstrine, are you in the office today? If so, can we meet later in the day so I can use the 10:30-11 window to come in? [18:18:04] I'm in office. How does 2pm sound? [18:18:43] perfect [18:19:03] ok updated [19:05:19] good meeting kristenlans. Being a manager hasn't discarded your other skills yet. :) [19:14:52] haha thanks bd808 And thanks for all your help. [19:32:09] jaufrecht_: I'm gonna take a stab at starting the summary slides. Is that cool with you? [19:32:28] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126275 [20:07:02] ggellerman: what do you think about putting something in our latest satcheled slides that describes how the possibility is explicitly addressing the strategic problem? Too much? [20:07:14] #scopecreep [20:09:46] kristenlans: yes [20:38:28] jaufrecht_ you're working on scheduling the core stakeholder mtg, right? [20:38:49] yes [20:40:15] wait, I'm scheduling the meeting to talk about Core vs Strategic definition [20:40:40] are you asking about a meeting to test TPG strategy with TPG's core stakeholders? that's not on my list. is it supposed to be? [20:47:12] jaufrecht_: the first thing [21:49:27] 6Team-Practices, 7Epic, 7Milestone, 3TPG-2016Q3: [EPIC] Pilot Milestone-Based Burnup usage within TPG - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119473#2012883 (10JAufrecht) [21:58:09] robla, mind if we start at :10 after the hour? I've had a busy day and could use a quick snack/tea break [21:58:22] ^ robla [22:01:16] kristenlans: no prob! [22:02:21] robla thanks, see you in a few! [23:02:37] 6Team-Practices, 7Epic, 7Milestone, 3TPG-2016Q3: Document questions and decisions in Phabricator upgrade discussion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126393#2013230 (10JAufrecht) 3NEW a:3JAufrecht [23:04:07] 6Team-Practices, 7Epic, 7Milestone, 3TPG-2016Q3: Document questions and decisions in Phabricator upgrade discussion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126393#2013238 (10Aklapper) For the records, the "new version" here refers to T120013 [23:08:43] 6Team-Practices, 6Community-Liaisons, 6Developer-Relations, 10WMF-Product-Development-Process, 3Liaisons-February-2016: Define good practices to start working on project concepts privately - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123611#2013264 (10Rdicerb) Begin in private when there is a security or privacy... [23:47:09] @meeple27 you were correct when you noted that the first question in the Q1 CSAT did not get a super negative response. I restored a version of the old, raw responses and now I see what you saw. [23:47:33] dstrine: good to know [23:47:43] I'm yay revision history! [23:47:49] definitely! [23:47:57] does that end up meaning less work for us now? [23:48:10] I think so! [23:49:50] cool [23:54:54] I've edited the invite and sent an update