[00:32:28] TPG, is it just me...or does the TeaTime topic spreadsheet regularly crash anyone else's browser? [01:00:36] 6Team-Practices, 6Community-Advocacy, 6Community-Liaisons, 6Developer-Relations: Goal: Binding code of conduct for all Wikimedia technical spaces with consequences for breaches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90908#2021270 (10Mattflaschen) >>! In T90908#2018184, @Ricordisamoa wrote: > Frankly, it seem... [01:18:07] kristenlans: no crashes for me [14:39:54] 6Team-Practices, 6Community-Advocacy, 6Community-Liaisons, 6Developer-Relations: Goal: Binding code of conduct for all Wikimedia technical spaces with consequences for breaches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90908#2022326 (10Nemo_bis) > discussing this on Phabricator (or, more generally: in two venue... [17:24:01] this phrase popped into my head re: TPG and facilitation: we help groups of people know what they are thinking [17:32:38] jaufrecht_: I like that. I see that happening in both the divergent phases of group dynamics (supporting individual group members to get their thoughts out and clarify them) and convergent (supporting the group to synthesize the emergent shared understanding of the group). And of course there's the work of helping the group navigate the groan zone in between [17:32:38] - that can be the most challenging place for groups to get clear on what their thinking. [17:33:12] oh god, what they're thinking. THEY'RE. [17:44:57] and helping people in groups realize that not everybody else thinks what they think they think [17:55:37] 6Team-Practices, 6Community-Advocacy, 6Community-Liaisons, 6Developer-Relations: Goal: Binding code of conduct for all Wikimedia technical spaces with consequences for breaches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90908#2023193 (10Aklapper) >>! In T90908#2022326, @Nemo_bis wrote: > That ship has sailed whe... [18:08:53] jaufrecht in the sense of cross-team facilitation? e.g. helping group A understand the perspective of group B (and/or C and/or D etc.)? [18:21:00] in the sense within groups as well. Person A thinks that persons B and C agree with position X, but in fact B and C agree with position Y but have given up on trying to express that. We facilitate enlightening A without engendering hard feelings [18:21:52] it's easy for A to learn what B and C are thinking if A listens. But if A has biases or barriers or B and C have reasons not to share, the group not only doesn't know what its thinking, it (or parts of it) thinks it thinks something it doesn't. [18:22:06] and if person A represents the group, ... [18:54:27] jaufrecht_: gotcha, that resonates with how I think about facilitation [19:39:53] 6Team-Practices, 6Community-Advocacy, 6Community-Liaisons, 6Developer-Relations: Goal: Binding code of conduct for all Wikimedia technical spaces with consequences for breaches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90908#2023788 (10Krenair) >>! In T90908#2017316, @Mattflaschen wrote: > The CoC is necessary,... [21:18:59] 6Team-Practices, 6Community-Advocacy, 6Community-Liaisons, 6Developer-Relations: Goal: Binding code of conduct for all Wikimedia technical spaces with consequences for breaches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90908#2024089 (10ThurnerRupert) andre, it would be better you focus on technical tasks instea... [21:27:04] 6Team-Practices, 6Community-Advocacy, 6Community-Liaisons, 6Developer-Relations: Goal: Binding code of conduct for all Wikimedia technical spaces with consequences for breaches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90908#2024119 (10Mattflaschen) >>! In T90908#2024089, @ThurnerRupert wrote: > the only reason... [21:30:58] 6Team-Practices, 6Community-Advocacy, 6Community-Liaisons, 6Developer-Relations: Goal: Binding code of conduct for all Wikimedia technical spaces with consequences for breaches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90908#2024127 (10Keegan) >>! In T90908#2024089, @ThurnerRupert wrote: > andre, it would be be... [23:17:53] kristenlans: got a hot minute for a hangout? [23:24:18] mbinder: yes [23:25:02] Kristenlans sorry got pulled into something. Ten min? [23:25:53] sure mbinder