[06:22:08] 06Team-Practices, 06Developer-Relations, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 13Patch-For-Review, 15User-greg: Set up Code Review office hours - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128371#2071986 (10Qgil) It is very nice to see that this effort is getting momentum! Thank you very much to all contributors. On the... [06:30:52] 06Team-Practices, 06Developer-Relations: Define Cut-off date for abandoning old changesets in our code review tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113706#2213330 (10Qgil) [06:31:22] 06Team-Practices, 06Developer-Relations: Define Cut-off date for abandoning old changesets in our code review tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113706#1673884 (10Qgil) Thank you @Krinkle for your feedback on the principles. I have added them to the description for easier editing. [07:26:51] 06Team-Practices, 06Developer-Relations, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 13Patch-For-Review, 15User-greg: Set up Code Review office hours - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128371#2071986 (10Legoktm) I don't know how many times it needs to be said - it's not a technical problem, it's a social one. Creating... [08:30:00] 06Team-Practices, 06Developer-Relations, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 13Patch-For-Review, 15User-greg: Set up Code Review office hours - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128371#2213444 (10Qgil) I think the perspective of generalistic and full time contributors able to follow the activity of channels lik... [15:50:59] jaufrecht: threw a quick meeting on your calendar for after your 1:1 with Kristen [16:03:10] okay [16:56:29] 06Team-Practices, 06Developer-Relations, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 13Patch-For-Review, 15User-greg: Set up Code Review office hours - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128371#2214580 (10Legoktm) >>! In T128371#2213444, @Qgil wrote: > I think the perspective of generalistic and full time contributors a... [17:10:44] 06Team-Practices, 06Developer-Relations, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 13Patch-For-Review, 15User-greg: Set up Code Review office hours - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128371#2214616 (10Luke081515) The situation with grrrit-vm at the moment is not optimal, I agree. The original intention was to let pe... [17:25:45] 06Team-Practices, 06Developer-Relations, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 13Patch-For-Review, 15User-greg: Set up Code Review office hours - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128371#2214684 (10mmodell) @legoktm: That was an honest mistake. I can only offer my apologies that we inconvenienced you. I really d... [17:58:51] 06Team-Practices, 06Developer-Relations, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 13Patch-For-Review, 15User-greg: Set up Code Review office hours - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128371#2214876 (10Dereckson) In a perfect world, we would have a general #wikimedia dev channel, without bots, to discuss anything dev... [18:01:14] jaufrecht: just waiting for hangouts to work... [18:54:27] ggellerman: do i recall correctly you are a fan of the checklist manifesto? [18:54:50] awjr: I am, indeed, a fan of that book [18:55:38] ggellerman: i had a really interesting conversation with robla last week part of which centered around some stuff atul gawande wrote and checklists in particular [18:55:52] you might find it interesting to chat with him :) [18:56:05] awjr: thanks for the hot tip ;) [18:56:11] :D [18:58:46] awjr: great seeing you last week. uneventful trip home? [18:59:29] robla: likewise, and yes :) i was surprised at how smooth both getting to and from SF were this time around [19:03:21] 06Team-Practices, 10Technical-Collaboration-Guideline, 10WMF-Product-Development-Process, 10Community-Liaisons (Apr-Jun-2016): Define good practices to start working on project concepts privately - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123611#2215195 (10Keegan) [19:03:56] 06Team-Practices, 10Technical-Collaboration-Guideline, 10WMF-Product-Development-Process, 10Community-Liaisons (Apr-Jun-2016): Proposal: any WMF software project willing to be prioritized requires a concept publicly available - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118231#2215204 (10Keegan) [19:46:25] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] Assess skills within TPG related to WMF capacity enhancement needs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131304#2215326 (10KLans_WMF) [19:52:46] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] Assess skills within TPG related to WMF capacity enhancement needs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131304#2215337 (10KLans_WMF) [19:54:43] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] Assess skills within TPG related to WMF capacity enhancement needs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131304#2215341 (10KLans_WMF) [19:55:26] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] Assess skills within TPG related to WMF capacity enhancement needs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131304#2162370 (10KLans_WMF) [20:03:28] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] Define a plan for measuring satisfaction of "light engagement" customers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131303#2215388 (10KLans_WMF) @ggellerman @ksmith given that Kevin has commented that this looks "Not easy...", yet Grace is pushing for a stretch goal...d... [20:15:40] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Prioritize FY016Q4 TPG work categories - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132744#2215447 (10JAufrecht) [20:15:42] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] Pilot Milestone-Based Burnup usage within TPG - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119473#2215446 (10JAufrecht) [20:16:28] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] FY2016Q3 Pilot of Milestone-Based Burnup usage within TPG - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119473#1827196 (10JAufrecht) [20:17:45] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Publish notes and slides from review of FY2016Q3 TPG work tracking - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132963#2215454 (10JAufrecht) [20:18:11] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] FY2016Q3 Pilot of Milestone-Based Burnup usage within TPG - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119473#2215468 (10JAufrecht) [20:18:28] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] FY2016Q3 Pilot of Milestone-Based Burnup usage within TPG - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119473#1827196 (10JAufrecht) [20:18:41] 06Team-Practices, 06Developer-Relations, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 13Patch-For-Review, 15User-greg: Set up Code Review office hours - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128371#2071986 (10hashar) The discussion on this task is going way out of the topic of setting up a review hour. Just agree on using e... [20:18:46] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] FY2016Q3 Pilot of Milestone-Based Burnup usage within TPG - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119473#1827196 (10JAufrecht) [20:28:37] 06Team-Practices: [EPIC] TPG decides and implements its work tracking plan for FY2016Q4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132402#2215507 (10JAufrecht) [20:29:11] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 15User-JAufrecht: Write up TPG work tracking options - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132403#2215511 (10JAufrecht) [20:29:50] kristenlans: where is the Phab task for finalizing Q4 goals? [20:30:07] in this week jaufrecht [20:30:30] d'oh [20:34:33] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] TPG decides and implements its work tracking plan for FY2016Q4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132402#2215558 (10JAufrecht) [20:35:56] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] TPG decides and implements its work tracking plan for FY2016Q4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132402#2197046 (10JAufrecht) [20:36:40] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] TPG decides and implements its work tracking plan for FY2016Q4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132402#2215568 (10JAufrecht) [20:37:12] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] TPG decides and implements its work tracking plan for FY2016Q4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132402#2197046 (10JAufrecht) [20:37:44] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] TPG decides and implements its work tracking plan for FY2016Q4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132402#2197046 (10JAufrecht) [20:38:39] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] TPG decides and implements its work tracking plan for FY2016Q4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132402#2197046 (10JAufrecht) [20:38:41] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Prioritize FY016Q4 TPG work categories - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132744#2215579 (10JAufrecht) [20:38:53] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Prioritize FY2016Q4 TPG work categories - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132744#2208962 (10JAufrecht) [20:39:21] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Prioritize FY2016Q4 TPG work categories - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132744#2208962 (10JAufrecht) [20:59:35] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] Define a plan for measuring satisfaction of "light engagement" customers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131303#2215668 (10ggellerman) @KLans_WMF @ksmith **Proposal:** I spend some time with @KLans_WMF composing a brief list of TPG's recent Light Engagem... [21:05:34] awjr: you around for a hangout? [21:05:51] maxbinder: aye - one minute [21:09:26] awjr: k, just ping me when you're ready :) [21:19:44] maxbinder: ready [21:52:03] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] Define a plan for measuring satisfaction of "light engagement" customers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131303#2215859 (10ksmith) @ggellerman: Incremental works for me (in this case and in most cases). [21:57:08] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] TPG decides and implements its work tracking plan for FY2016Q4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132402#2215875 (10JAufrecht) a:05JAufrecht>03None [21:58:00] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 15User-JAufrecht: Publish notes and slides from review of FY2016Q3 TPG work tracking - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132963#2215876 (10JAufrecht) [22:28:39] maxbinder: meeting is running a bit long...i'll be a couple minutes late [22:29:36] meeple27: ok