[00:00:03] 06Team-Practices, 07Documentation, 15User-JAufrecht: Document a unified task data model - FIRST DRAFT - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118762#2416625 (10ggellerman) @JAufrecht Do you recall if I reviewed this for you? I recall reviewing a doc of yours and meeting with you about the comments I left- cou... [01:21:39] 06Team-Practices, 10Phabricator, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Create TPG "kwikkie" form for easier creation of phab tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138547#2416752 (10Peachey88) >>! In T138547#2415565, @Awjrichards wrote: > It could be really cool to also use these kinds of links for the sidebar for... [15:58:05] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Checkpoint to review new TPG meeting norms - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132118#2188817 (10KLans_WMF) @ggellerman Motion to make this a calendar reminder rather than a Phab task and close this task, or just close it since this is already on the staff agenda.... [16:44:57] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Checkpoint to review new TPG meeting norms - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132118#2418703 (10ggellerman) 05Open>03Resolved [17:15:56] 06Team-Practices, 06Reading-Web-Backlog: Conduct a Gather extension postmortem - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130470#2136885 (10ggellerman) Removing Team Practices Group. This task is in the Reading-Web-Backlog with @MBinder_WMF subscribed to it. [17:30:37] 06Team-Practices: Update 'how to engage with TPG documentation' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139088#2418989 (10Awjrichards) [17:30:45] 06Team-Practices, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 06Developer-Relations (Jul-Sep-2016): Developer Summit 2017: Work with TPG and RelEng on solution to event documenting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132400#2196957 (10ggellerman) Removing Team Practices Group. Please feel free to add us back when there is... [17:37:34] ggellerman: Woo-hoo for a canceled meeting! [17:37:53] almost as satisfying as deleting a big block of code that is no longer needed [17:37:57] meeple27: I can resched it if you prefer ;) [17:38:19] meeple27: or moving a task to the Done column :) [17:38:27] we should schedule a bunch of pointless meetings....and then cancel them to get the rush of freeing up time [17:38:35] yup [18:05:21] OR CLOSING AN EPIC!!!! [18:05:58] awjr have you found a live hangout for metrics, or is it just the stream? [18:06:13] kristenlans: i just joined the video stream [18:22:23] Anyone catch that user story in the Metrics meeting? ;-) [18:25:25] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Consider strategy tests for teams not currently served by TPG - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128134#2419194 (10ggellerman) [18:25:27] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Talk to unserved TPG customers as part of our strategy convos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129390#2419196 (10ggellerman) [18:35:20] 'learnings' [18:46:49] when I hear "learnings" now, I think of "fixings" [19:00:28] lol meeple27 [19:00:30] or more commonly, fixins [19:00:38] learnins and fixins [19:06:04] kristenlans: in hangout [20:52:08] 06Team-Practices: Decide if and how to track "personal" TPG work? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114280#2419857 (10ggellerman) a:05ggellerman>03JAufrecht [20:53:03] 06Team-Practices: Draft SoS (Scrum of Scrums) team attendance and purpose of meeting document - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114926#2419860 (10ggellerman) @JAufrecht confirmed in email that this is no longer relevant [20:53:15] 06Team-Practices: Draft SoS (Scrum of Scrums) team attendance and purpose of meeting document - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114926#2419861 (10ggellerman) 05Open>03declined [21:00:56] kristenlans: jaufrecht ggellerman meeple27 awjr might be a few min late to staff meeting [21:01:53] maxbinder: thanks for letting us know [21:02:16] 06Team-Practices: Write up experiences from the visit to Spotify in Stockholm to share with team - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101569#2419921 (10KLans_WMF) https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/document/d/1PXtSfsk-YrMrJ6tpTWp0jys5h6W6u6zdfDI8NEbQ92o/edit?usp=sharing [21:03:24] awjr shoudl we start w/o you? [21:06:38] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic: [EPIC] TPG Offsite (May 23-27 2016) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131399#2419932 (10ksmith) [21:08:46] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] TPG selects and documents a strategy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113053#2419947 (10KLans_WMF) [21:09:07] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic: [EPIC] TPG Offsite (May 23-27 2016) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131399#2419951 (10ksmith) [21:09:27] 06Team-Practices, 10Phlogiston, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 15User-JAufrecht: [EPIC] Document usage of Phlogiston - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119098#2419954 (10ksmith) [21:10:48] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-2016Q4-Assess-Skills, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] Assess skills within TPG related to WMF capacity enhancement needs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131304#2419962 (10KLans_WMF) [21:20:15] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-2016Q4-Assess-Skills, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] Assess skills within TPG related to WMF capacity enhancement needs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131304#2420050 (10ggellerman) 05Open>03Resolved [21:20:51] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] TPG selects and documents a strategy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113053#2420054 (10JAufrecht) [21:22:26] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic: [EPIC] TPG Offsite (May 23-27 2016) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131399#2420055 (10MBinder_WMF) 05Open>03Resolved [21:22:37] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] TPG selects and documents a strategy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113053#2420071 (10ggellerman) 05Open>03Resolved [21:25:55] 06Team-Practices, 10Phlogiston, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 15User-JAufrecht: [EPIC] Document usage of Phlogiston - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119098#2420075 (10JAufrecht) [21:28:05] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Give phlogiston demo to stakeholders and document feedback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135780#2420077 (10Awjrichards) a:03Awjrichards [21:28:22] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Give phlogiston demo to stakeholders and document feedback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135780#2310937 (10Awjrichards) This could use further breakdown of to-dos [21:29:15] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Explore phabricator task creation via email - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138548#2420080 (10JAufrecht) a:03JAufrecht [21:33:58] because somebody kicked out my first login, and then I logged out my second login, I can't rejoin [21:34:11] apparently getting kicked out is permanent? [21:34:18] Could I get a re-invite? [21:35:37] currently trying to log in via personal gmail account. "Requesting to join the video call...". Sad! [21:38:16] jaufrecht: i just PMd you a link to the hangout, kevin is trying to 'invite' you [22:05:55] 06Team-Practices: Document TPG tags/projects in Team Practices backlog board and/or Team Practices This Week - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139123#2420143 (10MBinder_WMF) [22:09:16] 06Team-Practices: Give a brown bag lunch on Agile basics - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99135#2420164 (10KLans_WMF) 05Open>03declined [22:11:19] 06Team-Practices, 07Documentation: Document Team Practices norms for using google calendar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115705#2420169 (10ksmith) 05Open>03declined Although this could have value, it's just not likely to happen. Declining. [22:13:22] 06Team-Practices, 15User-JAufrecht: Propose definitions and Best Practice(s) for teams to use Goals and Epics - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105243#2420178 (10KLans_WMF) 05Open>03declined [22:13:54] 06Team-Practices, 15User-JAufrecht: Propose definitions and Best Practice(s) for teams to use Goals and Epics - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105243#1439415 (10KLans_WMF) Declining because no one is asking for us to do this/not enough value right now. [22:15:49] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic: EPIC: Determine Phate of Phlogiston - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132365#2420189 (10JAufrecht) [22:15:53] 06Team-Practices, 07Documentation: Document cost/benefit of teams using Phlogiston and Phragile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120271#2420188 (10JAufrecht) [22:17:40] 06Team-Practices: Decide if and how to track "personal" TPG work? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114280#2420192 (10ggellerman) 05Open>03declined [22:18:31] 06Team-Practices: Decide if and how to track "personal" TPG work? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114280#1690304 (10ggellerman) In 2016-06-30 backlog grooming, we noted that this item is on the agenda of 2016-07-07 staff meeting. Link to this ticket is in the agenda. [22:23:42] 06Team-Practices, 15User-JAufrecht: Pilot a per-project wiki page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120991#2420197 (10JAufrecht) 05Open>03declined No immediate plans to try this out relative to other priorities. May do something similar later. [22:24:36] 06Team-Practices, 07Documentation, 15User-JAufrecht: Document a unified task data model - FIRST DRAFT - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118762#2420200 (10ggellerman) a:05ggellerman>03JAufrecht [22:27:03] 06Team-Practices, 07Documentation, 15User-JAufrecht: Document a unified task data model - FIRST DRAFT - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118762#2420207 (10JAufrecht) 05Open>03declined TPG is unlikely to be able to successfully push new terminology, plus there is no evidence of this being a high-priorit... [22:29:07] 06Team-Practices, 07Epic: [EPIC] Engineering teams can communicate their capacity for core vs new work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122838#2420216 (10ksmith) [22:29:09] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] A documented and agreed upon definition of ‘core work’ exists - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122839#2420214 (10ksmith) 05Open>03declined The original initiative got far enough along for the foundation to complete its annual plan. It is not clear whether... [22:29:27] 06Team-Practices, 07Epic: [EPIC] Engineering teams can communicate their capacity for core vs new work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122838#1915056 (10ksmith) [22:29:30] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] Audience-facing product teams able to produce evidence-based data about the proportion of time spent on core vs. non-core work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122842#2420217 (10ksmith) 05Open>03declined The original initiative got far enough along for the... [22:29:37] 06Team-Practices, 07Epic: [EPIC] Engineering teams can communicate their capacity for core vs new work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122838#1915056 (10ksmith) [22:29:39] 06Team-Practices, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] Product-facing teams have agreed upon method for tracking core/strategic work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122841#2420220 (10ksmith) 05Open>03declined The original initiative got far enough along for the foundation to complete its annual plan. It is no... [22:31:16] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Improve or create WMF best practices for publishing meeting notes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132406#2420238 (10JAufrecht) 05Open>03declined No specific demand for this. [22:36:54] 06Team-Practices, 10Phlogiston, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 15User-JAufrecht: [EPIC] Document usage of Phlogiston - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119098#2420260 (10JAufrecht) [22:36:56] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Documentation, 07Epic, and 2 others: Complete "Guide to Phlogiston Reports" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130277#2420257 (10JAufrecht) 05Open>03Resolved a:03JAufrecht first draft is done. New task should be created if and when more/better documen... [22:42:09] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-2016Q4-Support-Quarterly, 07Category, 07Epic: [EPIC] Collaborate on enhancement to quarterly review template based on stakeholder interview feedback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135036#2420266 (10JAufrecht) [22:45:26] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Documentation: Document the suggested Best Practices for teams to configure their Phabricator board - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129577#2109658 (10ggellerman) at 2016-06-30 backlog grooming we decided to meet and collectively review Phab boards which wil... [22:45:43] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Documentation: Document the suggested Best Practices for teams to configure their Phabricator board - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129577#2420276 (10ggellerman) 05Open>03declined [22:46:04] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Talk to unserved TPG customers as part of our strategy convos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129390#2420281 (10ksmith) 05Open>03declined We decided not to hold up our strategy process for this, so declining. We do plan to have conversations with unserved... [22:49:33] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Discuss survey fatigue and how to respond to it with others in the org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138034#2420294 (10ksmith) 05Open>03declined If we see falling CSAT response rates, that may be an indication of fatigue. Unless/until that happens, we hav... [22:53:28] 06Team-Practices: Document alternate approaches to TPG-style tall backlog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138889#2413290 (10Awjrichards) Also worthwhile to discuss potential behavioral changes (eg meeting regularly as a team to fully groom backlog) [22:55:36] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-2016Q4-Support-Quarterly, 07Category: Collaborate on enhancement to quarterly review template based on stakeholder interview feedback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135036#2420317 (10KLans_WMF) [22:56:39] I <3 our backlog now [22:56:45] (Things TPGers say) [22:59:00] maxbinder: can you test the secret backdoor again? [23:18:49] 06Team-Practices, 06Release-Engineering-Team: One year review of RelEng offsite outcomes (April 2016) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112763#2420372 (10Awjrichards) @hashar I think the answer to your question is 'yes', but it might depend on what specifically you mean by 'team practices'? I would say th...