[15:36:25] nataliaharateh: you should have access to the shared Google Drive folder now [15:37:30] oh derp. I accidentally listed the CSAT deadline as the day I sent it out :-| [15:41:10] thanks awjr, got it 😃 [16:04:13] So I sent the CSAT survey email from within the google form (not from mail)...anyone have thoughts on the best way to send a follow-up email to correct deadline :-/ [16:05:35] LMGTFM... [16:07:48] lmgtfm? [16:11:20] awjr: "let me google that for myself" :P [16:12:06] lulz [16:12:08] the irony [16:12:22] toooo much irony [16:33:30] meeple27: what is the interval after which you schedule in a break to avoid back to back to back to back to back meetings? [16:35:23] meeple27: I'm guessing 1.5-2 hours based on your calendar [16:38:21] kristenlans: I try to limit blocks of continguous meetings to 2 hours [16:39:00] which means if I have (e.g.) a one hour, then half an hour of free space, then another hour, I'll stick a break in that gap to avoid ending up with 2.5 hrs straight [16:39:31] * kristenlans nods [16:39:58] kristenlans: there is a pretty good forms tutorial linked from the LE planning doc which probably won't answer your question, but might otherwise be interesting [16:47:22] meeple27: is that on wiki? [16:47:40] kristenlans: Nope, gdoc. I'll send you the link [16:47:47] (it's in the TPG folder too) [16:47:47] thx [16:51:20] meeple27: did you and Grace use the send form fucntionality from within the form, or use gmail? [16:51:53] ggellerman: used the send form once and email once. I used email twice [16:52:22] (I don't know what she used for her third) [16:52:39] kristenlans: meeple27: the UI does not build trust. It terrifies ;) [16:53:03] meeple27: thought that you send the third round? [16:53:15] ggellerman: did you send a follow up reminder after you used send form (within form send)? [16:54:08] kristenlans: for SoS, I issued reminders in the weekly meeting (we kept round 1 open for 2 weeks). And for New Readers, I nagged ;0 [16:54:20] ggellerman: ah OK [16:58:42] jaufrecht: In retrospect, I think that we should have sent survey after the follow up meeting for CR retreat [16:59:54] Well, I just sent out a new email with correction. It's the best option I coudl find. [17:00:48] kristenlans: have not read whole thread here (have been in meeting) but awwOOO00 me in an hour if you need to process what happened [17:01:02] m'kay I think I'm all good ggellerman [17:28:33] nataliaharateh: you wanna meet today? [17:31:33] I think I'm good maxbinder, I'll irc you an update which onboarding buddy tasks we could cross out today 😃 [17:31:41] great [18:02:04] jaufrecht: awjr runnign a few mins late [18:02:22] me2 [19:13:10] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic: [Epic] Cross-organizational change management - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137579#2653482 (10JAufrecht) 05declined>03Open Re-opening as the master task for ongoing Org Change coordination planning. [19:15:00] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Gauge interest/value in org change tracking facilitation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146204#2653490 (10JAufrecht) [19:15:11] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 15User-JAufrecht: Gauge interest/value in org change tracking facilitation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146204#2653490 (10JAufrecht) a:03JAufrecht [20:32:05] maxbinder do you feel good about the 4 pm Straw Wolf meeting today or do you want to move it? [20:33:08] jaufrecht: I'm OK to join, just probably gonna have meeting burnout [20:34:14] 🔥 💊 😎 [22:07:44] 06Team-Practices: Update Team Practices Roles and Responsibilities to reflect new role - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146224#2654194 (10MBinder_WMF) [22:21:20] ggellerman: meeple27 just mentioned you have some reservations about using the light engagement survey for evaluating uncompleted work (eg with the design group, relative to our engagement with them on the statement of purpose) [22:21:44] we need some way to get some data back from design folks for quarterly review stuff [22:22:03] would the survey still be valuable from that perspective, or is it just not appropriate to use at this point? [22:23:09] awjr: meeple27: the way it is written, I don't think that it will work for your work with the designers. Would you consider doing a diff survey for them? [22:23:22] yes [22:23:36] but i guess that means the i need to make it :) [22:23:51] and soon. [22:23:51] awjr: maybe next step is for you to look at the latest form, and see how much you think would need to change [22:24:04] might be as simple as removing/replacing the bit about "outcome" [22:24:05] yes that makes sense [22:24:25] i will take a look before the end of the day and try to make a call [22:24:37] thanks meeple27 and ggellerman [22:25:05] awjr: you know where the template is? and DON'T EDIT IT...make a copy, and edit that [22:25:21] meeple27: is there a link in email or somewehre or easily discoverable in drive? [22:25:52] awjr: I and meeple27: are getting at drafting forms, and DR is very helpful with assessing questions [22:25:55] it's in tpg/quarterly goals/q1/light engagements, named "template..." ....or i can send it to you. [22:26:24] awjr: not that we want to be the Forms Guys ;) meeple27: [22:26:35] (it needs a better home but we figured we could do that after wave b was out [22:26:38] ) [22:27:23] heh [22:27:31] ok that's good enough for now meeple27 thanks [22:51:34] maxbinder: did you tell me that the gong thing was in a specific place in the Chip Deubner lounge on THursday? :-/ [22:52:16] kristenlans: er, last I saw it was before the day 2 retro, in your hand [22:52:26] hmmm.... [22:52:30] 0_o [23:28:45] ggellerman: meeple27 i made a copy of the template and massaged the language to be usable for a current engagement. it's in the same folder as the original template. would you mind taking a look and sharing if you think that's OK to use for getting feedabck from design? [23:30:29] (by 'sharing if you think that's OK to use' i mean let me know if you think it's OK to use ;) [23:30:35] awjr: do you mean feedback from Design Research? [23:30:55] ggellerman: i mean for anyone in a design related role that is goinig through the statement of purpose stuff [23:30:57] ggellerman: so y es [23:31:00] they are included [23:32:41] also if anyone wants to see a psychadelic picture of my dog generated by Google's deep dream engine: http://imgur.com/a/MKBUR [23:32:41] awjr: I was asking if you wanted Design Research to look at questions to make sure that there is no leading language [23:32:47] ggellerman: ooo [23:33:11] ggellerman: sure that would be helpful - do you think they could turn it around fast enough to possibly send out tmrw? [23:34:09] i pretty much just changed past tense stuff to present tense [23:35:28] awjr: could you email me anything you changed and I will ask for quick turn around [23:35:40] yes [23:38:35] ggellerman: done [23:41:01] ggellerman: meeple27 assuming the language is OK - would you be sending this out to the design folks (assuming i provide a list), or would i need to do that?