[13:45:51] meeple27: "I think LE is done" <- woohoo! [13:57:21] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 10TPG-FY2016-17-Q1-Identify-Common-Pain, 10TPG-FY2016-17-Q2-Design-Collaboration, 07Epic: [EPIC] Provide support to people in design-related roles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137479#2748298 (10KLans_WMF) @Awjrichards it seems that > Remove the Q1... [13:59:26] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-FY2016-17-Q1-Roll-Out-Engagement-Survey: Update main Light Engagement survey based on changes to ongoing variant - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146822#2748302 (10KLans_WMF) Should we remove Q1 tag in the interest of goal closeout? This feels like more of a maintenance task than so... [15:05:11] meeple27: jaufrecht no plan to formally close out Q1. I commented on some of the open Q1 tasks to see if we can get shepherds to close. [18:12:32] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Update main Light Engagement survey based on changes to ongoing variant - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146822#2749377 (10ksmith) @KLans_WMF: This was related to {T141142} so closing that one and keeping this one seems fine. While the updates should have happ... [18:51:04] @maxbinder @jaufrecht shout out to you at Metrics! [18:51:22] @kristenlans 50 min mark? [18:51:56] therbouts @maxbinder mayeb closer to :55 [18:52:00] k [18:52:02] thx [18:54:41] :54 [19:27:24] What was our LE Survey practice for the last few offsites? Survey all attendees? Survey only our direct customer, the event sponsor? [19:30:05] jaufrecht: I think all attendees makes sense [19:32:02] Leaving for doctors appt, @maxbinder I'll give you a heads up if I am running late for our later mtg. [20:12:57] jaufrecht I believe GG and you sent to all the onsite attendees, and I sent it to all my offsiters [20:13:38] if there were a key stakeholder who didn't attend, but participated in prep/followup, I would consider including them too [20:19:18] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 15User-JAufrecht: Address problems with TPG's Phabricator configuration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138889#2749929 (10JAufrecht) [20:20:05] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 15User-JAufrecht: [EPIC] Address problems with TPG's Phabricator configuration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138889#2413290 (10JAufrecht) [21:16:08] 06Team-Practices: Have a TPG conversation about phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149367#2750118 (10ksmith) [21:49:05] An especially meta question: should another TPGer facilitate the Editing Offsite retro that comprises direct customers, admins, and Joel and Max? [22:06:09] 06Team-Practices, 10Phlogiston (Burnup-Support), 15User-JAufrecht: Don't show archived sprints in Android reports - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148437#2750377 (10JAufrecht) p:05Triage>03Normal [22:09:26] regarding adding 'closing out quarterly projects on the first day of the next quarter' to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/TPG_Quarterly_Planning - should it be under Quarterly Goals or Quarterly Transitions? 🤔 [22:24:06] nataliaharateh: My thought is Quarterly Transitions... [22:24:39] I'm also open to anyone reorganizing or renaming those sections :-) [22:47:40] jaufrecht: if it would be valuable for you to participate in the retro, then someone else should facilitate. If you feel like you won't get honest feedback while present, then someone else should. Otherwise, doing it yourself seems fine to me. [22:48:05] middle ground would be max facilitating the retro neutrally while you participate [22:48:16] I'd love to participate, and am not worried about somebody else's presence affecting the outcome [22:49:20] sounds like you might be able to voluntell maxbinder to facilitate, unless he also strongly wants to participate [22:54:02] good thing the three of us are in a meeting in 7 minutes [22:54:27] If I include three questions from Trevor in the TPG LE Survey for the Editing Offsite, does that mess up our LE data collection? [22:54:37] And should the questions go at the beginning or the end? [23:38:08] 06Team-Practices: Incorporate feedback from Editing and RelEng offsites into planning checklist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149384#2750626 (10ksmith)