[17:21:50] jaufrecht: meeple27: maxbinder: do you know if it's possible to have a personal board in Phab but one that is not associated with another project in Phab? [17:34:26] ggellerman_: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T555 [17:54:20] ggellerman_: e.g. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/1613/ [17:55:35] Am I cray... [17:55:44] or did remindrs jsut diappear from goole calendar [18:02:30] jaufrecht: psyched to see the phate of phlog email go out :) [18:03:00] kristenlans: i dont see it in calendar anymore :( [18:03:04] kristenlans: are you using inbox? [18:03:16] awjr: I am not [18:03:44] it's easy to create reminders in inbox, but i cant see how one would do that in calendars anymore :( [18:05:46] kristenlans: if you click on a cell in calendar, you can create a reminder [18:06:04] maxbinder: ggellerman_ jaufrecht (or anyone else): Would you recommend R63, 64, 67, or 69 as the "best" of the micro meeting rooms? (for the namely-oriented, that's Geoffrin, Lovelace, Ford Prefect, or Hopper) [18:06:21] kristenlans: along the top of the dialog that pops open when you click on a cell, you should see "event | reminder | appointment slot" [18:07:08] awjr: Wolf Richards, that's how I used to do it, but now only see event - and all my exiting reminders disappeared. [18:07:16] ;-( Might be a personal problem [18:07:23] meeple27: Lovelace and Hopper are the best of that lot....fine for 2 people in the room. FordPrefect is fine if only one person is in the room. Avoid Geoffrin if there are remoties involved or more than 2 people in the room. HTH [18:07:25] :( [18:07:53] * kristenlans shouts at the sky: "HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO REMEMBER ANYTHING NOW!!!!" [18:09:23] thanks, andre__ is there a reason why https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T555 is not resolved? [18:09:36] kristenlans: I know when I enter calendar, my events show immediately, and my reminders drop in a couple seconds later. So perhaps some sort of exit/refresh/cache clear/mumble might help [18:11:04] meeple27: thanks for link to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/1613/ I see that it is set up as a milestone and all tasks are associated with at least one tag. Do you know if it is possible to have such a milestone board, but not have those tasks associated with tags from any other project-type things? [18:13:26] ggellerman_, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T555#2630392 - it's more of a workaround right now [18:13:35] still waiting for a proper upstream implementation [18:18:14] thanks ggellerman_ for the advice. it has been acted upon [18:18:40] andre__ thanks! so it sounds like implementation as is is a little kludgey, but that it is possible to have a personal board but that we'd still need each task to have some other project associated with it, yes? [18:18:52] meeple27: always happy to help! [18:20:53] ggellerman_: I'm confused. 1613 is a project (not milestone) which contains a milestone ("This week"). And at least one task is not associated with any project outside this user project (bottom of VE Team column). Disclaimer: I haven't read any of the material that andre__ has been pointing too, so maybe I'm missing something) [18:23:10] kristenlans: reminders won't appear if you have a tracking blocker [18:23:22] kristenlans: try incognito mode, that'll tell you if that's the issue [18:38:03] ggellerman_, yes. though no idea if there must be another project associated [18:38:34] meeple27: I am having trouble finding my answer in all the documentation, so I appreciate your help! It looks like this task https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150698 is only associated with jaufrecht 's personal project. If this is okay, then I think that I have my answer [18:39:19] andre__ please see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150698 if it's okay with you that only the personal project is associated with this task, then I have my answer. [18:39:44] fine with me :) [18:39:55] andre__ I am thinking of times when you have noticed that there is no project associated with a task ;) [18:39:57] yay! I was about to say that I couldn't imagine why it wouldn't be ok [18:40:20] thanks, andre__ that is not only the answer, but it's also the one I wanted to hear :) [18:40:24] ggellerman_, heh, indeed :) [18:40:29] I think the concern was literally zero projects, or only archived projects [18:40:33] thanks andre__ and meeple27 :) [18:40:47] as long as it's not a yellow-tag-style project only I'm fine, I'd say [19:01:00] Wolves start without [19:03:58] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-FY2016-17-Q2-LE-Metrics, 07Epic, 15User-JAufrecht: [EPIC] Establish metrics for Light Engagements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147354#2811554 (10ggellerman) [19:04:55] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic: [EPIC] Determine Phate of Phlogiston - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132365#2811558 (10Awjrichards) [19:05:30] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic: [EPIC] Define and update TPG team values - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142415#2811567 (10KLans_WMF) [19:05:59] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic: [EPIC] Determine Phate of Phlogiston - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132365#2195745 (10Awjrichards) [19:06:43] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-FY2016-17-Q2-LE-Metrics, 07Epic, 15User-JAufrecht: [EPIC] Establish metrics for Light Engagements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147354#2811574 (10KLans_WMF) [19:12:37] 06Team-Practices, 10Design Research and product team collaboration, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Coordinate the TPG Offsite checklist with the Project Coordinators and Travel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150716#2811580 (10MBinder_WMF) [19:14:49] 06Team-Practices, 06Editing-Department, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Retrospect on Editing Offsite Content and Planning - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149956#2811587 (10KLans_WMF) @JAufrecht could you schedule some time for us to prep for this retro? Thanks! [19:15:33] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic: [EPIC] Define and update TPG team values - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142415#2811589 (10KLans_WMF) 05Open>03Resolved [19:19:14] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-FY2016-17-Q2-LE-Metrics, 15User-JAufrecht: Consolidate and prioritize TPG input into how we use the LE Survey results - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150295#2811613 (10KLans_WMF) [19:19:28] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-FY2016-17-Q2-LE-Metrics, 15User-JAufrecht (This Week): Derive a list of implied uses from the LE Survey questions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150296#2811614 (10KLans_WMF) [19:20:49] 06Team-Practices, 10Design Research and product team collaboration, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Coordinate the TPG Offsite checklist with the Project Coordinators and Travel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150716#2794261 (10KLans_WMF) Are https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149950 and https://phabricator... [19:20:50] maxbinder: Joel had already bumped you to mark that task as dupe :-) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150716 [19:21:17] kristenlans: ah ok, thanks, missed the dupe part [19:22:10] 06Team-Practices, 10Design Research and product team collaboration, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Coordinate the TPG Offsite checklist with the Project Coordinators and Travel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150716#2811630 (10MBinder_WMF) [19:22:12] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Work with Project Coordinators to draft SLA for offsites - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149950#2811628 (10MBinder_WMF) [19:22:45] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Work with Project Coordinators to draft SLA for offsites - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149950#2769854 (10MBinder_WMF) From the merged task: > During a retrospective on the Editing Offsite, it became clear that there is overlap between the function of the TP... [19:23:04] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Work with Project Coordinators to draft SLA for offsites - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149950#2811633 (10MBinder_WMF) [19:23:18] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Work with Project Coordinators to draft SLA for offsites - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149950#2769854 (10MBinder_WMF) This is not a blocker for the Editing offsite stuff, so removing that parent. [21:05:39] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Decide whether to create a TPG matrix to show who has what skills at what level of capability - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138997#2812105 (10KLans_WMF) 05Open>03declined [21:07:42] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Part 2: Review changes to Finance Corner on officewiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142598#2812107 (10ksmith) Update from grooming meeting: Jaime has made some changes. If this isn't ready for work by the end of December, we can probably kill this task. [21:11:30] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-FY2016-17-Q2-Embedded-Support, 15User-NHarateh_WMF: Send Q2 CSAT survey to TPG customers Thursday 2016-12-01 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147662#2812112 (10NHarateh_WMF) [21:12:17] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 15User-JAufrecht: Report back to TPG on incorporating Phabricator into the Editing/DR Meeting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145595#2635360 (10ksmith) @JAufrecht : We discussed this in the grooming meeting. If our calendar math is correct, it sounds like thi... [21:19:47] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-FY2016-17-Q2-Embedded-Support, 15User-NHarateh_WMF: Analyze results of Q2 CSAT - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147663#2812146 (10NHarateh_WMF) Ideally: Analysed right after the results roll in At the latest: Before quarterly reviews (week of Jan 16 - 20) [21:32:29] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 15User-JAufrecht: [EPIC] Fine-tune TPG's Phabricator configuration and practices - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138889#2413290 (10ksmith) @JAufrecht : At the grooming meeting, we decided that this relates to the "conversation" task, and that we cou... [21:38:20] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Team Practices Group Coaching Clinic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148068#2812234 (10KLans_WMF) p:05Triage>03High [21:45:58] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Dry run/practice sessions with Coach volunteers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151249#2812248 (10ggellerman) [21:49:52] 06Team-Practices: Request OIT/admin to include more details in gcal room descriptions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150979#2812264 (10ksmith) a:03Awjrichards GCal already shows very rough room sizes (S/M/L). Maybe that's good enough, but it seems like some of the S's are more like 1-person while others... [21:50:59] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Dry run/practice sessions with Coach volunteers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151250#2812270 (10ggellerman) [21:52:23] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Working agreements for Coaches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151251#2812293 (10ggellerman) [21:55:24] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Guidelines for coaches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151252#2812309 (10ggellerman) [21:57:03] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Set up space - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151253#2812328 (10ggellerman) [21:58:30] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Publicizing the Coaching Clinic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151254#2812348 (10ggellerman) [21:58:35] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Guidelines for coaches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151252#2812362 (10MBinder_WMF) [21:58:55] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Dry run/practice sessions with Coach volunteers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151249#2812363 (10MBinder_WMF) [21:59:00] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Dry run/practice sessions with Coach volunteers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151250#2812364 (10MBinder_WMF) [21:59:08] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Working agreements for Coaches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151251#2812365 (10MBinder_WMF) [21:59:21] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Set up space - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151253#2812368 (10MBinder_WMF) [21:59:28] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Publicizing the Coaching Clinic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151254#2812369 (10MBinder_WMF) [22:01:08] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): prepping materials and signs for the clinic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151255#2812370 (10ggellerman) [22:01:10] 06Team-Practices: Request OIT/admin to include more details in gcal room descriptions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150979#2812384 (10MBinder_WMF) @ksmith that's a great start, dunno if I have more to add. The valuable items are - How many people can fit into this room? - Is there real A/V equipment?... [22:02:30] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Team Practices Group Coaching Clinic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148068#2713955 (10ggellerman) [22:02:32] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Dry run/practice sessions with Coach volunteers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151249#2812397 (10ggellerman) 05Open>03Invalid [22:03:19] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Team Practices Group Coaching Clinic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148068#2812400 (10ggellerman) [22:03:22] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Dry run/practice sessions with Coach volunteers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151249#2812248 (10ggellerman) 05Invalid>03Open [22:04:37] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Dry run/practice sessions with Coach volunteers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151250#2812403 (10ggellerman) [22:04:39] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Dry run/practice sessions with Coach volunteers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151249#2812405 (10ggellerman) [22:10:20] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): prepping materials and signs for the clinic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151255#2812466 (10MBinder_WMF) [22:11:24] ggellerman_: if subtasking in phab, the subtask will autopopulate the tags of the parent. This is a feature most of the time, but not when the Epic tag is present. Just FYI. I cleaned up the subtasks for the dev summit clinic :) [22:11:44] (I am not a fan of the epic tag for this reason, among others) [22:12:41] thanks, maxbinder :) I wondered if I was spamming the others, but decided that this decision was not up to me ;) [22:14:17] 👍 [22:23:15] 06Team-Practices: Request OIT/admin to include more details in gcal room descriptions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150979#2812529 (10Awjrichards) Thanks @ksmith - I just sent an email to OIT describing the issue, and linked to this ticket so they can see the conversation happening here. Moving to "in pro... [23:13:52] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic: [Epic] Cross-organizational change management - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137579#2812680 (10Awjrichards) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Awjrichards Based on the recent org change conversation between @JAufrecht, @KLans_WMF, and myself, we agreed to c... [23:20:02] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions: Review and synthesize Phate of Phlogiston data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151267#2812697 (10Awjrichards) [23:20:50] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic: Make decision about Phate of Phlogiston - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151268#2812714 (10Awjrichards)