[01:45:34] jaufrecht: My confusion is that the stats page offers 3 choices: Users, Spiders, Bots. Most of our traffic shows up under Users and Spiders, but not Bots. At least, that's what it looked like at a glance. [02:10:04] Hm. I think I was misreading the graphs. It seems like we have more than one human view per day, in addition to spiders [02:18:17] meeple27: 'bots' is a very narrow set in the mind of our analytics team. It's pretty much User-Agents that explicitly include the word "Bot" in them [02:18:39] bd808: Do you know how accurate the "users" vs. "spiders" is? [02:18:51] specifically, how many automated thingies are called "users" [02:19:18] it's not too horrible. the spiders list is the major crawlers. [02:19:30] but on the internet, nobody knows you are a dog so there is that :) [02:23:16] I'm not finding good info on wikitech about the classifier. Its some java code that runs in the hadoop pipeline [02:26:11] ok thanks. Not a big deal. [13:56:33] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 10TPG-Epics (Determine Phate of Phlogiston): [EPIC] Determine Phate of Phlogiston - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132365#2976320 (10Aklapper) As all subtasks are closed, where can results be found? [15:46:08] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 10TPG-Epics (Determine Phate of Phlogiston): [EPIC] Determine Phate of Phlogiston - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132365#2976710 (10JAufrecht) [15:46:14] 06Team-Practices, 10TPG-Essential-Functions, 07Epic, 10TPG-Epics (Determine Phate of Phlogiston): [EPIC] Determine Phate of Phlogiston - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132365#2195745 (10JAufrecht) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phlogiston/Roadmap [19:04:11] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Team_Practices_Group/Unified_Theory_of_Work_Tracking [19:29:27] I'm going to abstain from tea time voting, because I'm not sure if I'll be able to be there or not. [20:20:56] anyone knows the reason why Phab wouldn't let someone add a milestone to the project if its details claim that it's Editable By All Users? 🤔 [20:21:56] jaufrecht: I think I voted in your tea column by mistake, so I moved your votes to mine, please revote [20:23:36] nataliaharateh: which project? [20:24:29] awjr: you tea'ing today? [20:24:37] maxbinder: aye [20:24:51] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/2334/ maxbinder [20:25:22] nataliaharateh: holy hell look at that board [20:25:45] 😄😄😄 [20:26:17] nataliaharateh: I appear to be able to create milestones [20:26:24] are you signed in? [20:26:32] yeah me too maxbinder [20:26:38] but Corey couldn't [20:26:49] ah, is he signed in? :) [20:27:38] nataliaharateh: also, you may want to consider how this board fits: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/1199/ [20:28:00] I dunno how much it is actually used anymore, but Adam might [20:28:57] you mean, consider how it fits = reorganise it? :D maxbinder [20:39:41] nataliaharateh: well just questions like is, is there redundancy? who relies on what? Is this for management (like Corey, and if so why does he need a separate board from other management)? If it's for teams, does it fit within process for all 3 teams? Android used to use separate projects, Web still uses Epic tasks, iOS used to use a mix, etc. If it's for [20:39:41] teams, do teams have control over what they need? :) [20:42:37] nataliaharateh: for example, Web has a Page-Previews (Hovercards) Q goal Milestone on that project's board (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2427/), a task that is an Epic being treated as a goal (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70860) and now a column on the Reading-Epics board (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2468/). What is [20:42:37] the truth? [20:44:04] awjr: vote fer tea or forever hold your peace :) [21:04:57] wide boards like that remind me that phab (unlike most web sites) doesn't seem to allow horizontal scrolling with left/right arrow keys :( [21:15:24] meeple27: awjr: please vote early and often for Tea Time [21:17:05] omg so much pressure [21:17:25] I haven't seen the Reading-Admin board before, I think that the Reading-Epics board is for Corey to separate signal from noise [21:17:38] ok i voted [21:17:47] meeple27 i think may be the final decider [21:24:21] Kevin is abstaining [21:25:38] nataliaharateh: I think that's what Reading-Admin was originally designed for. Might be worth reconciling at least that with Adam and Corey. The team stuff is a whole other can of worms. [21:27:00] I'mma skip tea if we're doing AGF. Nothing personal, just wanna use my time elsewhere. :) [21:35:00] maxbinder: you can try bribing me to change my vote [21:35:47] awjr: nah it's cool, this is how tea time does. Just wanted to know our topic before committing. [21:35:55] :) [22:02:52] meeple27: should we start w/o you? [22:03:40] maxbinder: it's gonna be a good one! [22:48:15] maxbinder: will do, thanks for pointing that out [22:48:42] 🌈 [22:48:57] 🌈🌞 [22:49:24] that said, a logged in user still can't add a milestone 🤔⛈ [22:50:05] by the way, Happy Chinese New Year everybody 🐓 [22:52:55] nataliaharateh: does Corey have project-creation authorization? [22:53:09] milestones are projects [22:53:51] how do you get one? it's not a group, is it? [22:57:26] same way you got one :) --> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/1776/ [22:58:06] nataliaharateh: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706 [22:59:18] https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xIsloV7zOmt81G/giphy.gif [22:59:23] maxbinder^ [23:01:52] nataliaharateh: https://media.giphy.com/media/5XCV9LxIYaUec/giphy.gif [23:28:56] jaufrecht: I rearranged the engagements solutions order on the etherpad, lemme know if that messes you up [23:33:28] aaaaaaaaah :khan: