[18:22:50] @maxbinder: re: selling souls: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/mobile/oxygenos-telemetry-lets-os-maker-tie-phones-to-individual-users/ [19:28:05] jaufrecht: I'm not sure they had a soul to sell [20:02:45] mmmm, maybe, I'd argue that OnePlus built up a lot of cred with users, but primarily through pricing. The rose-colored glasses came off once they started charging US prices [20:38:37] I'm very disappointed because, other than the spying and the way they've botched vibrate mode, it's my favorite phone ever.