[01:02:29] 10Wikimedia-Apache-configuration: Json queries fail "Too Many Requests" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168033#3353686 (10Yurivict) [01:31:26] 10netops, 10Operations: Find a new PIM RP IP - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167842#3353703 (10faidon) Oh, thanks for that, that audit is great! These two are indeed surprising, and I think the fact that they are surprising is a good argument for us to get rid of multicast :)) The 239.77.124.213 one is [... [05:27:29] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations, 10Reading-Web-Backlog: Remove disableImages handling from VCL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168013#3353852 (10Marostegui) p:05Triage>03Normal [08:27:12] 10Traffic, 10Discovery, 10Operations, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Query-Service: runUpdate.sh script in wikidata stand-alone has abruptly started incurring numerous 429 errors. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168019#3354007 (10Peachey88) [09:02:22] 10Traffic, 10Discovery, 10Operations, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Query-Service: runUpdate.sh script in wikidata stand-alone has abruptly started incurring numerous 429 errors. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168019#3354044 (10Peachey88) [09:14:08] 10Traffic, 10Discovery, 10Operations, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Query-Service: runUpdate.sh script in wikidata stand-alone has abruptly started incurring numerous 429 errors. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168019#3354055 (10ema) p:05Triage>03Normal [11:14:45] 10Traffic, 10Discovery, 10Operations, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Query-Service: runUpdate.sh script in wikidata stand-alone has abruptly started incurring numerous 429 errors. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168019#3353215 (10ema) I took a look at rate limited requests with User-Agent 'Wikidata Query Se... [11:18:12] 10Traffic, 10HyperSwitch, 10Operations, 10RESTBase-API, 10Services (next): Respect host header in RESTBase, and redirect /rest_v1 to /rest_v1/ - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167972#3354312 (10ema) p:05Triage>03Normal [13:30:01] bblack: what do you think of something along these lines (re: cost)? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/359419/ [13:32:44] it isn't text-specific actually, we can put in wikimedia-backend.vcl.erb [13:46:40] ema: looks pretty interesting and could work! [13:48:07] ema: another thing though - we know varnish knows these timings because it shows them in varnishlog output. I wonder if we can access it directly from there instead of calculating it ourselves? (and re: calculating it ourselves, I do sort of wonder about the context on "now", which in these sorts of cases is usually not a direct timer-get, but a cached value from the start of some point in event [13:48:14] processing.... I wonder if it even updates between fetch->response?) [13:50:30] bblack: getting them from varnish would be pretty cool (and in general it seems that a vmod giving access to that type of info would be useful!) [13:52:04] re: now, the vtc test gives decent results: with a delay 1.1, the header is > 1100, with delay 10 it's ~10000 [13:52:41] so it seems to be doing the right thing :) [13:53:18] oh, fun times, 1000 * real throws a VCC-compiler assertion, you need 1000.0 apparently [13:54:08] :) [14:02:52] 10Traffic, 10Commons, 10Multimedia, 10Operations, and 2 others: Disable serving unpatrolled new files to Wikipedia Zero users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167400#3354893 (10Jeff_G) >>! In T167400#3350622, @Bawolff wrote: > Downsides: If anyone using a zero-rated connection is a file patroller, they... [14:28:59] 10Traffic, 10Commons, 10Multimedia, 10Operations, and 2 others: Disable serving unpatrolled new files to Wikipedia Zero users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167400#3331800 (10BBlack) >>! In T167400#3350622, @Bawolff wrote: >> Wikipedia Zero traffic is tied to IP addresses, not users. So it definitely... [14:53:08] 10Traffic, 10Commons, 10Multimedia, 10Operations, and 2 others: Disable serving unpatrolled new files to Wikipedia Zero users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167400#3355085 (10Nemo_bis) > Why restrict this mechanism to Zero, making Zero different from other access? We could instead deny access to unpa... [15:01:12] 10Traffic, 10Commons, 10Multimedia, 10Operations, and 2 others: Disable serving unpatrolled new files to Wikipedia Zero users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167400#3355105 (10BBlack) >>! In T167400#3355085, @Nemo_bis wrote: >> Why restrict this mechanism to Zero, making Zero different from other acce... [15:38:21] 10Traffic, 10Commons, 10Multimedia, 10Operations, and 2 others: Disable serving unpatrolled new files to Wikipedia Zero users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167400#3355220 (10Nemo_bis) > Why are we restricting Zero-rated users to only the "not a wiki" version of our wikis? That's a good question, an... [15:42:40] 10Traffic, 10Commons, 10Multimedia, 10Operations, and 2 others: Disable serving unpatrolled new files to Wikipedia Zero users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167400#3355223 (10FDMS) Can't Zero users opt to get a non-Zero version of Wikimedia projects, i.e. simply use their data allowance to access unp... [16:28:33] 10Traffic, 10Commons, 10Multimedia, 10Operations, and 2 others: Disable serving unpatrolled new files to Wikipedia Zero users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167400#3355292 (10zhuyifei1999) >>! In T167400#3355220, @Nemo_bis wrote: > to be reversed when MediaWiki manages to block the invalid files, rig... [16:37:20] 10Traffic, 10Commons, 10Multimedia, 10Operations, and 2 others: Disable serving unpatrolled new files to Wikipedia Zero users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167400#3331800 (10Steinsplitter) We have to take a measure to stop WP zero abuse, we have 1 terabyte of pirated content yet. [16:45:01] 10Traffic, 10Commons, 10Multimedia, 10Operations, and 2 others: Disable serving unpatrolled new files to Wikipedia Zero users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167400#3355346 (10Steinsplitter) WP zero pirates are sharing links to the content in Facebook Groups (FB is zero rating traffic as well), for ex... [19:18:11] 10Traffic, 10Commons, 10Multimedia, 10Operations, and 2 others: Disable serving unpatrolled new files to Wikipedia Zero users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167400#3355774 (10Bawolff) >>! In T167400#3354974, @BBlack wrote: >>>! In T167400#3350622, @Bawolff wrote: >>> Wikipedia Zero traffic is tied to... [20:25:14] 10Traffic, 10Discovery, 10Operations, 10Wikidata, and 2 others: runUpdate.sh script in wikidata stand-alone has abruptly started incurring numerous 429 errors. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168019#3355978 (10Smalyshev) > In the specific case of 429 responses, it should definitely not crash but rathe...