[13:51:30] <T13|needsCoffee>	 Hi halfak|WMF
[13:56:23] <halfak|WMF>	 T13|needsCoffee:  Good morning.  I got a notification that you said Hello, but I can't find in any IRC tab.
[13:56:40] <halfak|WMF>	 Oh look.  Everything updated when I send a message.  :)
[13:57:06] <halfak|WMF>	 yay hexchat :\
[13:57:24] <T13|needsCoffee>	 LOL
[13:57:59] <T13|needsCoffee>	 I'm taking the day off from enwp mostly as I'm very upset.
[14:04:16] <halfak|WMF>	 Oh man.  What happened?
[14:08:01] <halfak|WMF>	 T13|needsCoffee: ^
[14:42:31] <T13|needsCoffee>	 Sorry, was distracted.
[14:42:57] <T13|needsCoffee>	 @link [[en:WP:AN]] bottom of the page.
[14:42:58] <wm-bot>	 http://enwp.org/WP:AN
[14:45:37] <T13|needsCoffee>	 halfak|WMF: ^^
[14:53:16] * halfak|WMF  read a bit

[14:53:21] <halfak|WMF>	 Are you referring to the discussion around User:John?
[14:55:08] <Technical_13>	 No Happy-melon and CSD: PNR
[14:56:06] <halfak|WMF>	 Oh yeah.  I just saw that.
[14:56:38] <halfak|WMF>	 I usually don't get into wiki politics if I can avoid it, but I can imagine why you are upset from those responses.
[14:57:41] <halfak|WMF>	 For those of us who generally aren't involved in these types of discussions, seeing something like, "[...] that's a red flag that somebody might be a trouble-maker, rather than a problem-solver," can get quite frustrating.
[14:57:58] <Technical_13>	 Yep.
[14:58:20] <halfak|WMF>	 It's sort of on par with assuming bad-faith to infer so aggressively that "someone might be a trouble-maker" out loud.
[14:58:53] <Technical_13>	 Anyways... I'll bring it back up tomorrow.
[14:59:15] <Technical_13>	 Only it won't be at WP:AN
[15:01:03] <Technical_13>	 It will be on Talk:CSD: and all of the other pages will be recreated with a link back to the RfC there.
[15:01:23] <Technical_13>	 Well, the talk counterparts anyways.
[15:12:07] <halfak|WMF>	 Well, I'm bummed that you got caught up in that.  I can see why it's frustrating to be in the middle of getting things done to have someone pull the rug out from underneath you -- and then to have everyone you interact with get caught up on some technicalities and call *you* "bad-faith".
[15:13:39] <halfak|WMF>	 I can only assume that this type of thing is relatively common.
[15:13:39] <halfak|WMF>	 For experienced editors, anyway.
[15:17:01] <halfak|WMF>	 Hey T13,  I'm not sure if you saw my last message before you lost your connection:
[15:17:03] <halfak|WMF>	 I'm bummed that you got caught up in that.  I can see why it's frustrating to be in the middle of getting things done to have someone pull the rug out from underneath you -- and then to have everyone you interact with get caught up on some technicalities and call *you* "bad-faith"
[15:18:51] <halfak|WMF>	 Gotta run for a bit.
[15:22:52] <Technical_13>	 kk
[16:58:27] <Technical_13>	 I decided not to wait.
[16:58:45] <Technical_13>	 @link [[Talk:CSD:]]
[16:58:45] <wm-bot>	 http://enwp.org/Talk:CSD:
[17:02:23] <Technical_13>	 halfak|WMF: ^^ would look that over and let me know if there is any thing I should change?
[17:31:03] * halfak|WMF  is looking now. 

[17:36:31] <halfak|WMF>	 Technical_13: I'm not sure I understand the situation well enough to comment.  I thought that a template you were working on was deleted.  Aren't Pseudo-namespaces just like a redirect to a proper namespace?
[17:38:28] <Technical_13>	 Yes.
[17:44:44] <halfak|WMF>	 What does this have to do with the template CSD?
[17:48:58] <Technical_13>	 Template?