[05:01:02] <T13|detached>	 halfak: VB is horrifying...
[05:03:13] <T13|detached>	 It requires very little thought and seems to be lacking any real power to program
[05:03:55] <T13|detached>	 Unless your goal is just to write little gizmos and gadgets...
[17:35:22] <halfak>	 T13|detached, sounds like my experience with VB as well.
[17:35:31] <halfak>	 But MicroSoft's tools are very nice.
[17:35:47] <halfak>	 Still, I've been working in Linux Land for over a decade now.
[17:36:38] <T13|detached>	 :)
[17:37:00] <T13|detached>	 I can't wait until Java is offered again.
[17:39:15] <T13|detached>	 I took it last semester, and failed both that and C++ because the instructor didn't teach how to program in the languages, just taught programming concepts. He failed to demonstrate how to program in the langs.  I'll be taking with a diff instructor next go round.