[19:54:34] Matthew_: I'm wondering what this bot is good for. :( [19:54:39] I mean...RSS, sure. [19:54:49] But it is actually maintained? :/ [19:55:21] As far as I know it is. [19:55:29] My job around here is to restart it if it gets confused. [19:55:42] @systeminfo [19:55:42] * wm-bot3 is online; channels: 83 connected: True working: True queue: 0 [19:55:42] * wm-bot5 is online; channels: 83 connected: True working: True queue: 0 [19:55:42] * wm-bot4 is online; channels: 82 connected: True working: True queue: 0 [19:55:42] * wm-bot2 is online; channels: 83 connected: True working: True queue: 0 [20:01:15] I'm wondering if the developer of it will look at the issue raised. [20:01:21] Were you able to take a look at it yet? [20:01:42] I haven't I'm sorry. I had a personal emergency come up. Can you give me a link? [20:02:16] Sure [20:02:19] https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot/issues/62 [20:11:34] GitHub [8benapetr/wikimedia-bot] Matthewrbowker commented on issue Add a @recentchanges+ command to allow users to specify their own 'wiki code': https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot/issues/62#issuecomment-296294644 [20:12:31] maffblaster: If he doesn't answer by about tomorrow evening my time, I'll poke him again. [20:13:22] And it also appears I need to learn this codebase :P [20:16:26] Matthew_: i dont know his codebase either if that makes you feel any better [20:16:50] Heh, kinda. It makes sense if you know C#, Petr is good at that. [20:31:02] Matthew_: Not only that, but get commit privileges to the repo. [20:31:11] I'll try :) [20:31:30] It should really be moved into an organization, IMHO. [20:31:37] I agree. [20:41:24] Matthew_: You look pretty young from your GitHub picture. [20:41:33] Wonder if I'm older than you. [20:41:37] Why thank you. [20:41:49] I'm actually 23, I think that picture is over a year old. [20:41:54] Ah [20:41:56] Man [20:41:58] I'm such an old man [20:42:10] I'm 4 years older. :( [20:43:27] Boy scouts? [20:43:39] What's the badges and stuff for? [20:58:56] Yes, that's boy scouts. [20:58:59] (Sorry distracted) [20:59:24] Specifically, it's a branch of the Boy Scouts of America called Venturing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venturing_(Boy_Scouts_of_America) [21:07:06] Ik c# but still [21:24:20] !help [21:24:20] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wm-bot#.40 [21:26:07] maffblaster: I'm not sure I understand what you want to accomplish with your request. [21:27:13] Pages to watch are added to recentchanges with @RC+ 'wiki code' page name. [21:28:18] Are you asking for new 'wiki codes' for non-WM wikis? [21:29:15] ShoeMaker: custom ones is what he wants (so they can be specified by the user) [21:30:00] You can already specify any WM-wiki -- unless you mean like define aliases -- If so, what's the point? [21:30:44] ShoeMaker: i meant any like non wmf and wmf [21:31:17] Considering this is wm-bot -- I don't think it should allow non-wmf wikis. You can fork it and set up your own instance of the same bot with any wikis you want. [21:31:33] ShoeMaker: What is the 'wiki code' for my wiki isn't supported by the bot? [21:31:47] Is your wiki a wmf wiki? [21:31:59] It's MediaWiki. [21:32:09] Yes, but is it run by the WMF? [21:32:10] But not an official wiki ran by the Foundation. [21:32:22] ShoeMaker: ummm can you show me in documentation that states non-wmf wikis arent allowed [21:32:24] Then you should fork the bot and run your own instance for that. [21:32:30] I could. [21:32:40] But that doesn't really solve the problem [21:32:49] Zppix: Exactly [21:33:15] I mean, if you look through the linkie code list, you'll see a previous (now offline) Gentoo wiki was supported. [21:33:25] "wm-bot is an IRC bot that is being used in several Wikimedia IRC channels, particularly developer channels." -- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wm-bot [21:33:27] But the official Gentoo wiki is not. [21:33:53] ShoeMaker: thats just a stat i still see nowhere stating non-wmf arent allowed [21:33:54] ShoeMaker: But does that mean it couldn't/shouldn't be used by other MediaWiki sites? [21:34:17] Why are there so many non-mwf sites in the linkie list? [21:34:33] just because a bot has wm in its name doesnt mean it has to be only used by wmf-related stuff [21:34:55] Creating a link to a website is much different than accessing the content on the wiki. [21:34:56] Zppix: I agree. [21:35:21] ShoeMaker: If it's using an WM API, how is it a lot different? [21:35:25] Many non-WMF sites don't have the components needed to access. [21:35:30] It doesn't use the API. [21:35:35] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wm-bot#For_developers [21:35:50] If I need to install a plugin to use the bot, I could do so. [21:36:09] ShoeMaker: do you have any idea on how the bot works? [21:36:13] It uses the RCStream service provided for WMF wikis. [21:36:33] rcstream... iirc is apart of MW core if not an mw-ext [21:36:42] Zppix: That's what I was thining. [21:36:44] *thinking [21:36:54] But even if it is an extension, I could install it. [21:37:14] I'm one of the https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot/graphs/contributors [21:37:54] ShoeMaker: okay, but the fact you think wm-bot is only for wmf use that makes me think you may not know what exactly wm-bot is/used for [21:38:21] There have been discussions about it. [21:38:51] The answer was... Fork it per the instructions on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wm-bot#For_developers and set up your own instance. [21:39:03] Regardless no where on mediawiki's page on wm-bot or even wikitech's page does it state that non wmf wikis cant use petan's instance [21:39:22] ShoeMaker: I have no problems forking it. [21:39:24] I already did. [21:39:32] What I'm asking for is a feature request. [21:39:55] ShoeMaker: Did you see the issue I raised? [21:40:05] I saw. [21:40:12] What's so bad about that? [21:41:04] All of the discussions about this kind of thing in -labs and -tech have been that wm-bot itself should be used for WMF stuff and if people want to have non-WMF stuff they should fork it and set up their own instance. [21:41:16] Anyway... Have a great day! [21:41:27] Dude. [21:41:39] You're kind of ignoring the point here. [21:41:52] ShoeMaker: what discussions? I idle in both channels and not once have i seen these "discussions" [21:42:08] I have no problem hosting my own personal instance of the bot. [21:42:19] I'd do so gladly.