[00:00:34] I suppose using summaries like 'fondled the code' wouldn't get me very far either... [00:01:54] Isarra: well, they said that the code "needed love"... [00:02:30] XD [00:08:29] 03(mod) Hardcoded cruft in SpecialBannerLoader, "magic messages" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41195 +comment (10Adam Wight) [00:16:02] New review: Mwalker; "Works -- didn't break anything! whoO!" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28640 [00:16:02] Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28640 [00:16:40] 03(mod) Unsupported operand types at Language.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41194 (10Andre Klapper) [00:18:30] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Detect post-edit after preview / diff" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28643 [00:18:46] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28643 [00:19:50] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update extension PostEdit to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28644 [00:22:45] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28644 [00:23:00] 03(mod) Call to a member function isEmpty() on a non-object in EditPage.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41178 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:31:37] 03(mod) wikivoyage migration (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41184 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [00:32:59] Should it be timing out when I try to pull from gerrit? [00:34:04] 03(mod) Uploading file with a slash in name removes all letters preceding it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41190 +comment (10Smallman) [00:34:22] it happens from time to time [00:34:36] 03(mod) Beta buttons should have title attributes for voice over software - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40332 +comment (10Jon) [00:36:19] How do I tell if the problem is gerrit or my general connection? [00:36:38] 03(mod) Uploading file with a slash in name removes all letters preceding it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41190 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [00:37:49] Pull from Gerrit? [00:39:43] * Isarra pulls Brooke from gerrit. [00:40:30] 03(mod) Uploading file with a slash in name removes all letters preceding it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41190 +comment (10Smallman) [00:41:25] Harder. [00:44:12] 03(mod) Uploading file with a slash in name removes all letters preceding it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41190 +comment (10Smallman) [00:57:54] 03(NEW) PostgreSQL: job_sha1 & Co. are missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41196 blocker; MediaWiki: Database; (tim) [00:58:20] 03(mod) "page_is_redirect" wrong on Indonesian (and probably other non-English) wiki dumps. Doesn't recognize localization of "#REDIRECT" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38919 +comment (10Bean49) [00:58:20] 03(mod) mwdumper doesn't set page.is_redirect for borderline #redirect syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7497 +comment (10Bean49) [00:58:20] 03(mod) PostgreSQL: job_sha1 & Co. are missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41196 (10Tim Landscheidt) [00:58:23] 03(mod) PostgreSQL/pgsql support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/384 (10Tim Landscheidt) [00:58:23] New patchset: Kaldari; "Fixing 'Add a note for creator' on tagging interface" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28650 [00:58:36] 03(mod) File upload using SwiftCloudFiles returns 'Could not create directory "mwstore://localSwift/public".' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40932 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [00:58:55] 03(mod) No fa_sha1 schema update for PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41114 (10Tim Landscheidt) [00:58:56] 03(mod) PostgreSQL/pgsql support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/384 (10Tim Landscheidt) [01:00:01] New patchset: CSteipp; "Import from CreditSource repo" [mediawiki/extensions/CreditsSource] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28651 [01:00:18] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28650 [01:01:06] Okay, is it a bad sign if git tells me there is nothing to commit? >.> [01:01:36] not necesserily [01:02:27] commit in git isn't the same as svn commit [01:02:34] if you use git log, do you have a commit listed there? [01:02:56] I don't even know what that means. [01:04:47] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update PageTriage to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28652 [01:04:58] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28652 [01:09:36] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update PageTriage to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28653 [01:09:45] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28653 [01:09:51] Can I restrict access to a group of pages to a group of users? [01:13:02] New patchset: Adamw; "DO NOT MERGE: POC of direct banner loading" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28235 [01:13:23] don't know if I'm reporting this in the wrong place (also reported a few days ago to no avail), but the "download snapshot" feature for extensions on mediawiki.org fails with "Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client." - one can download via the repository link, but that's less convenient [01:24:02] 03(mod) Set $wgAutoConfirmCount to 10 for Japanese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40270 +comment (10Law_soma) [01:24:24] What does rebase mean? [01:30:15] !rebase [01:30:23] !rebase is http://learn.github.com/p/rebasing.html [01:30:24] Key was added [01:31:01] Coding an extension. Is $mRevision not an accepted variable any longer? [01:31:13] New review: Katie Horn; "That infinitely-repeated hidden field block makes me want to punch stuff, but that's not the fault o..." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28469 [01:31:13] Change merged: Katie Horn; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28469 [01:33:32] ScarredSun: that's a very vague question [01:33:50] Though, likely, there is a get method for it.. [01:34:20] I suppose it is. Basically, I'm updating an old extension I wrote a long time ago and I keep having issues with the code always thinking $mRevision == null [01:36:28] 03(NEW) Display "Mobile Platform" custom field only for relevant products/components - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41197 enhancement; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (aklapper) [01:36:28] 03(mod) Upgrade Bugzilla to 4.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33158 (10Andre Klapper) [01:37:40] 03(WONTFIX) Merge custom "Mobile Platform" field into default "OS" field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40936 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [01:45:29] I'm looking into the Selenium* classes in MW and am wondering if these are still being used... [01:45:55] I saw some comments left by Sumanah on the 'Selenium Framework' page that makes me think they are slowly being deprecated in favor of something else [01:47:04] crocket: Not easily, no. [01:47:06] !cm [01:47:06] Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access. [01:47:19] Does anyone have any experience using the MW-specific selenium framework/classes ? [01:49:55] * Isarra pokes Reedy. [01:50:00] Heeelp. [01:57:16] Isarra: #git is reactive and very helpful [01:57:31] With gerrit? [01:57:54] oh I thought you were struggling to fix a commit issue with git [01:58:06] You know what? For all I know I am! [01:58:15] Or maybe it's gerrit! Who knows! [01:58:50] Okay, let's try to see what's happening. [01:59:36] I tried to do what this said. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow [01:59:52] So you installed git and git-review ? [01:59:56] Yes. [02:00:20] so now you're on a git branch and try to push changes to Gerrit ? [02:00:56] Made a branch, made some changes, added them, commited, rebased, got confused. [02:01:18] So... I guess. [02:01:22] Yes? Maybe. [02:01:34] Everytime you don't know where you are, you can use "git status" [02:01:47] git status shows nothing. [02:01:51] This is a good news. [02:01:56] Is it? [02:01:57] It means your changes have been committed. [02:02:06] Committed to what? [02:02:19] to your *local* repository [02:02:34] Okay. [02:02:52] Git is a control version system allowing you to track files locally (it's what your .git folder contains: full history of your changes) [02:03:07] against svn, you're not depending from an external server but are autonomous [02:03:15] that's the principle of the distributed control version systems. [02:03:30] I see. [02:03:30] So your folder could be in 3 states: [02:03:39] Which folder? [02:03:46] the folder you're now [02:04:13] * no modification (you didn't edited files since last commit) [02:04:36] * some modified files you've to stage with git add [02:04:56] * all modified files (or all you want to commit) staged, and then you can commit [02:04:57] It appears to be the first one. [02:05:17] "staged" means "Hey, Git, you know this file I want you to save it, and soon I will commit it" [02:05:34] Whaaat. [02:05:40] (it allows you to commit two files and let two others untouched, even play with parts of files) [02:05:58] I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. [02:06:17] Okay, it's not really important to start, you'll find by yourself later or when you'll need it. [02:06:31] so now write "git log" [02:06:51] There are a bunch of log entries. [02:06:55] Is the topmost yours? [02:07:12] Yes. [02:07:22] Good :) [02:07:53] Now the next step is to send this last commit from your git repository to the Gerrit one. [02:08:08] For that, use "git review". [02:08:29] It's where you got the nothing to commit message? [02:08:29] What's an outstanding commit? [02:09:15] This just timed out. [02:09:40] * Isarra tries again. [02:09:43] It depends of the context, but I would say it's a commit let behind. [02:09:55] New patchset: Isarra; "Prevent editing textarea from overflowing out of bodyContent" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28657 [02:09:56] A what? [02:10:01] Congratulations :) [02:10:04] Oh. [02:12:00] * Isarra hides behind Dereckson. [02:12:43] Okay [02:12:59] Now, next step: see what your diffs look like on Gerrit. [02:13:06] 03(mod) xdebug causes bogus failures for -related parser tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36452 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [02:13:23] Yeah, that could be a problem. [02:13:30] Gerrit has a very good diff engine, which for example highlight extra whitespaces. [02:13:44] And it has an atrocious rendering engine. [02:15:57] The top left of the screen is for metadata, the top right the commit message and the bottom files and comments [02:16:01] Okay, so it does render in chromium... be nice if it would, I dunno, actually put the new version ON THE SCREEN... [02:17:18] click on your files names, you'll see the next screens are more useful. [02:17:20] The next screens are blank. [02:17:56] Maybe should you use Firefox. [02:18:35] Firefox is bad enough when you don't involve js. [02:19:05] So on Chromium pages like https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/28657/1/includes/EditPage.php are blanks ? [02:19:10] My apologies. I just absolutely bloody hate gerrit and pretty much everything about it. [02:19:42] 03(mod) Mobile homepage for eo.WP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30048 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [02:19:42] In chromium all the relevant stuff just goes off the edge of the screen. [02:19:57] This is annoying. [02:20:13] Sorry. What were we doing before my hatred came out? [02:20:48] I wanted to show you Gerrit could help you to improve your code presentation. [02:21:01] Oh. [02:21:04] Please continue. [02:21:27] but it would only work if you actually can see the diffs :/ [02:21:36] I can see them, just not all at once. [02:21:42] 03(mod) Mobile Homepage in Ossetian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28808 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [02:22:21] This is the output I've with Firefox: http://files.espace-win.org/2012/CodeReviewEditPage.png [02:22:54] as you can see, the greens are different [02:23:03] it detects the part of the line you didn't touch [02:23:18] that's what I intended before by "powerful diff engine" [02:23:34] okay, the fluo red part is the extra whitespaces [02:23:48] You mean like what diff does? [02:24:13] Maybe I should use graphical diff application, but I develop in a pure CLI environment. [02:24:33] Same diff, just different renderer. [02:24:49] White space is bad? [02:24:54] Aye. [02:25:13] We use the "no extra whitespace" coding style convention. [02:25:24] Any good way to automatically strip it? [02:25:41] Let's me try if our stylize.php takes care of that [02:26:55] 14(DUP) 403 HTTP method not allowed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30951 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [02:27:00] 03(mod) mobile wikipedia commonly uses non-canonical urls that don't get squid/varnish/whatever cache purged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30772 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [02:27:29] (by the way, I use "git review -d 28657" to download your change, as I know it's https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/28657/) [02:28:34] hmmmmmmm [02:28:42] What? [02:28:55] stylize works and removes your whitespaces [02:29:14] but is very aggressive and cleans a lot of other stuff, including code you're not submitting [02:30:10] http://grip.espace-win.org/~dereckson/diff.txt [02:30:45] Heh. [02:30:59] 03(mod) Wikipedia Zero heading banner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32001 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [02:31:09] so maybe it would be better to remove whitespaces manually? [02:31:11] It looks to have needed it. [02:31:23] But aiight. [02:32:10] Yes, you could run it afterwards. But isn't a bit messy if we beautify all the file and do a change in the same commit? [02:32:21] Yes. [02:32:28] so best strategy seems one commit for code change, and then run it on every files [02:32:42] 03(mod) Wiktionary on mobile doesnt device detect and redirect to mobile version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36152 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [02:32:55] About strategy, the wiki page will tell you to git review -d yourchange [02:32:55] this is not needed [02:32:55] you already have it [02:33:09] Apparently current gedit doesn't come with a plugin for drawing trailing spaces... how unfortunate. [02:33:13] git review -d is an command to download and checkout the downloaded branch [02:33:23] I do? [02:33:42] yes [02:33:52] Remember: you sent YOUR commit to Gerrit [02:33:52] so you have it [02:33:59] Oh. [02:34:01] Right. [02:34:51] Procedure is so as easy as (1) edit files (2) git add (3) git commit --amend (4) git review -R [02:35:14] How does it know which to amend? [02:37:42] 03(mod) m.wikinews.org has incorrect certificate (for *.wikipedia.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37650 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [02:39:22] New patchset: Isarra; "Prevent editing textarea from overflowing out of bodyContent" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28657 [02:41:05] Isarra: it amends your last commit. With the content of the files you asked Git to take into account ("to stage") with git add. [02:41:32] Cool. [02:41:34] Nice the spaces :) [02:41:34] I think. [02:42:00] New review: Dereckson; "Thank you to have improved your commit, removing extra namespaces." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28657 [02:42:06] 03(mod) Mobile contact us page is more complicated then it needs to be - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35041 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [02:42:56] are we always in the situation "one page, one editor?" [02:42:58] 03(mod) m.wikinews.org has incorrect certificate (for *.wikipedia.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37650 +comment (10MZMcBride) [02:43:00] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deleting selection does not delete selected list bullet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41158 +comment (10Nicolas Raoul) [02:43:01] What does all this mean? [02:43:04] No funny extension to add a second one? [02:43:11] Hmm? [02:43:44] I see you chose an id instead of a class for the div wrapping the editor. [02:44:18] I wondered if no strange extension had the bad idea to add several editors in the page. [02:44:56] Oh, good point... the other parts use classes... [02:44:57] andre__: Hi. [02:45:40] The editform as a whole uses an id, though that's... [02:46:25] Weit, no, some of them use classes. Some use ids and classes. Some just use ids... [02:46:25] e.g. Semantic Forms uses two editors (not twice the editForm), one for metadata, ours for free text: http://hackerspaces.org/w/index.php?title=C-base&action=formedit [02:46:33] andre__: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?title=Special%3ASearch&quicksearch=wikipedia.org%20certificate&list_id=153302 [02:46:43] andre__: I think there are a few dupes in there. [02:47:26] well an id will be fine them [02:47:42] Brooke: oh thanks! Do you want to mark them as dups? [02:47:55] Dereckson: I don't even know what to make of that. [02:48:04] andre__: All you. :-) [02:48:13] I commented on one of them. [02:48:23] I think the .com one is a separate issue. [02:48:38] But most of them are related to foo.bar.wikiproject.org, basically. [02:49:02] Isarra > you're done ; now, interested people will jump to review, discuss or directly accept your change - this is the code review process [02:49:26] Where will these people come from? [02:49:52] You can nominate them if you know who is the most interested by review that. [02:50:08] As far as I can tell nobody cares about this aside from me. [02:50:24] well I'm nominating Matmarex, he likes to review css & js stuff [02:50:41] * andre__ just realizes who Brooke is in Bugzilla - maping names :) [02:50:50] Heh. [02:50:57] andre__: another one Chad = ^demon [02:51:05] How do I make the extension one depend on this one? [02:51:30] andre__: I pop up on the mailing lists and wikis as well occasionally. [02:51:44] nice :) [02:51:49] Isarra: we only can manage directly dependencies for the same repository [02:52:25] I need to call it a day now (been working for more than 12 hours). Night everybody! [02:52:26] andre__: I stalk wmfwiki and I've been very impressed with your WildIdeas subpage, BTW. [02:52:32] so manually write in your commit message "Depends of core change Iccce8cb8" [02:52:32] And extensions have their own repositories, no? [02:52:32] Good night. :-) [02:52:33] exact [02:52:35] Mmkay. [02:52:37] Brooke, feedback very welcome! [02:52:46] What does branch master mean? [02:52:52] Brooke, just comment on it, or edit. [02:53:00] Will do. [02:53:09] it's the branch where all the action happens. The "production" code. [02:53:16] An integration branch if you prefer. [02:53:45] I... guess I see. [02:54:31] I'm used to explain control version stuff with a lot of schemas. It's not easy only by text. [02:54:49] I'm used to not understanding version control stuff at all. [02:54:59] 03(NEW) "Invalid argument supplied for foreach" in User::saveOptions() during automatic account creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41198 normal; MediaWiki: User login; (tstarling) [02:55:03] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Clicking at the left of a wikicode block does not put the cursor there. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41199 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; (nicolas.raoul) [02:55:15] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Clicking at the left of a wikicode block does not put the cursor there. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41199 (10Nicolas Raoul) [02:55:58] Isarra: try http://eagain.net/articles/git-for-computer-scientists/ [02:56:12] If I forgot to make a branch before making changes to the files, is that bad? [02:56:19] Nope. [02:56:27] just create your branch [02:56:27] Is there a 'git for artists'? [02:56:49] (It becomes only bad after a git add or git commit as you would have to undo the operation) [02:57:01] What would it add it to? O_o [02:58:00] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Text entered at left of nowiki block pawned when saved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41200 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; (nicolas.raoul) [02:58:29] Well... 'git add' means 'hey Git, please store these file somewhere. I'm going to commit them. Meanwhile, if I mess with them, I want to be able to undo to the state they're right now.'. [02:58:53] How would you do that, undo back to the state? [02:58:59] git reset [02:59:07] Oooh. [03:00:51] When I do diff and it says '\ No newline at end of file', what does that mean? [03:01:06] There's a newline character at the end of a line. [03:01:08] you removed or added a line to the file [03:01:10] Usually \n. [03:01:13] Sometimes \r\n. [03:01:34] The newline is attached to that line, but it kind of seems like you're adding an extra break to the file. [03:01:44] Because once your cursor knows there's a \n at the end of the line, it'll go to the line below. [03:01:52] Some text editors automatically add a last line to the file, some don't, some allow you to choose. [03:01:54] Even though that \n belongs to the preceding line. [03:01:57] Right. [03:02:04] 03(mod) "Invalid argument supplied for foreach" in User::saveOptions() during automatic account creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41198 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [03:02:13] Should I care? [03:02:18] Not really. [03:02:32] It can be annoying when you're catting files, I guess. [03:02:52] Isarra: Ever used echo -n? [03:03:01] Similar principle. [03:03:20] Nope. [03:03:24] mzmcbride@gonzo:~$ echo hello [03:03:24] hello [03:03:24] mzmcbride@gonzo:~$ echo -n hello [03:03:24] hellomzmcbride@gonzo:~$ [03:03:35] Gonzo? [03:03:36] -n removes the newline. [03:03:44] Gonzo. [03:03:44] Weird. [03:03:59] So the same thing will happen when you cat a file that has no trailing newline. [03:04:02] They're best practice. [03:04:29] Isarra: gonzo is the name of his server, mzmcbride his login. [03:04:41] New review: Daniel Friesen; "* This inadvertently introduces extra padding around the textarea including the scrollbars." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28657 [03:04:58] This is a fairly standard way unix shells print prompts. [03:04:58] Some of these have one, some don't... [03:05:03] server or host, really. [03:05:10] Dereckson: I am aware. [03:05:11] Oh. [03:05:20] It's a funny name! [03:05:25] :-) [03:05:31] Gonzo syncs with Camilla, my phone. [03:05:34] They're lovers. [03:05:38] * Isarra puts pie in Brooke's face. [03:05:38] I were in a "give explanation mode" and missed the switch to "social questions" :p Sorry. [03:05:57] Don't apologise, man. >.< [03:06:01] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzo_the_Great [03:06:02] You're lovely. [03:06:49] oh Gonzo from the Muppet Show :) It's some years I didn't look one. I should have 10 maybe last. [03:07:52] I can't remember http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Camilla_the_Chicken [03:08:17] Why do I keep naming my computers after dragons? [03:08:30] Well, virtual computers... [03:08:51] Habit? [03:09:08] Or do I name the dragons after the computers? [03:09:34] * Isarra names a dragon after Matthew_. [03:09:42] :D [03:10:32] Okay, so this extension change is partly to fix a bug, but mostly to fix the results of fixing the bug. [03:10:41] Is that... a bad sign? [03:13:38] Dantman: Do you mean to be rude? [03:14:14] Whazzat? [03:15:57] Dantman is one mean dude [03:16:10] It isn't exactly polite to say how something is all bad, how you had a much better idea long ago, and then go back to why it is bad. [03:16:29] Constructive criticism is one thing, but that is just not necessary. [03:18:06] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Clear $this->mOptionsLoaded in User::clearInstanceCache()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28659 [03:19:18] Having had the idea before was side note. The followup was an assertion that the alt idea didn't have the issues of the first attempt at fixing it. ...should I have just listed the issues with the commit without giving a suggestion on a way to do it without the issues? [03:19:21] Dantman: Add to the fact that many of your complaints are just plain wrong or the WikiEditor extension would have those problems as well, though... please consider being a little less adversarial. [03:19:48] wrong? [03:20:41] Dereckson: you know gerrit does have a draft feature [03:20:56] In no way does it affect tabbing, nor is the fact that you want to see something else exactly relevant. [03:21:21] It disables native focus styles. [03:21:47] The border colour complaint is hardly applicable either - these should have been defined long ago. [03:22:00] Yes, that is intentional. But that does not affect tabbing. [03:22:15] ie: When a user with motor issues uses to access the editor, the native styling that indicates to them that the text area is highlighted disappears. [03:22:47] I tested that out myself... and it was almost impossible to figure out when I finally reached the editor. [03:23:08] What exactly does that have to do with motor issues? [03:23:17] And almost impossible? [03:24:00] Really? [03:24:33] Isarra, some users with motor disabilities use to go through links/form elements on a site. That is why we use tabindex and have jump links [03:24:34] TimStarling: yes, I used it before [03:24:52] TimStarling: I were then told I should avoid to use half baked faeture [03:24:58] feature [03:25:07] Dantman: And you will notice that that has not been affected. [03:25:43] Isarra, focus styles are still a part of that. [03:26:02] If you say so. [03:26:33] But aiight, let's apply the border-box, then. [03:26:37] It's just I just don't see simply fixing the width as a good tradeoff for removing those when there's another way to do it. [03:27:17] Good night everyone. [03:27:26] I like that about you. You don't see a lot of things, but it doesn't get you down... [03:28:09] Could you make that patch? I'll move this stuff into the wikiEditor, unless there is a css definition to do the same to floating divs... [03:28:12] Side topic... looks like I need to find a way to add a h3 without adding it to the TOC [03:28:23] Isarra, same thing. [03:28:51] Care to elaborate? [03:28:51] box-sizing: border-box; will work on everything you apply width: 100%; + border to [03:29:01] Dereckson: I wonder which part of Gerrit is fully baked. [03:29:07] Basically normally width applies to the content area, and the border goes around that. [03:29:07] Dantman: Excellent. You should do that. [03:29:24] It was your idea, after all. May as well take credit for it some more. [03:29:24] The bug is caused by that. [03:29:56] But applying the border-box sizing method makes width apply to the outside of the border instead. [03:30:07] Great! You should do that. [03:30:09] So the border never overflows. [03:30:18] * Dantman doesn't have the time right now [03:30:28] So you just have time to nitpick and go on at length? Charming. [03:31:17] * Isarra hugs Dereckson and wishes him sweet dreams. [03:31:52] If there is anyone who does have the time, could I enquire for some further help with gerrit? [03:32:01] Thank you Isarra. [03:32:36] No, thank you for everything. [03:34:01] Didn't {{#tag:span|...}} once work? [03:42:13] 03(NEW) UserLoadFromSession considered evil - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41201 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (tstarling) [03:46:18] Okay, Dantman, I have to ask - were you actually trying to chase away a new user? Because if so, that is about the best way to go about it. Act as if what they have gone to the trouble to try to offer is worthless and making a point of how you already have that covered and they're just meddling, and yes, they won't want to stick around. [03:46:54] It's funny because the solution you put forward is actually a good one - you just did so in such a terrible way. [03:48:01] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28659 [03:50:56] Dantman's salary is not linked to the number of new users he attracts [03:51:18] He has a salary? [03:51:27] Please tell me you're joking. [03:52:59] he's helping you as a volunteer [03:53:43] Helping? Where? [03:53:59] so he mostly gets paid in units of being able to say "I'm right and you're wrong" [03:54:14] Is it still payment when he isn't even right? [03:55:07] yes [03:55:30] It's not a bad way to get paid. [03:55:41] 03(mod) Mobile feedback to OTRS should include article in the summary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39467 (10Yuvi Panda) [03:55:41] I imagine the satisfaction that comes from being right mostly is about subjective truth [03:55:44] Dantman: Why hasn't WMF hired you yet? [03:56:18] mmmmmmm... no one asked / suggested a good position? [03:56:23] 03(mod) many mobile url don't work anymore : Error 503 Service Unavailable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40333 (10Yuvi Panda) [03:56:26] HR napping [03:56:46] http://jobs.wikimedia.org [03:56:46] Let's see. [03:56:52] or maybe everyone assumes that with a german-sounding name, you must be employed by WMDE [03:57:00] lol [03:57:14] There are five software engineer job openings. [03:57:20] And one software developer. [03:57:21] Is there a position for people who like to complain and on the rare occasions they actually do something it takes months of cleanup? [03:57:29] You know MediaWiki and PHP. [03:57:31] They haven't approached you? [03:57:33] Because I'm pretty sure those would all be filled by now. [03:58:15] As for Wikia... I was almost offered a position there long ago. But they had issues with hiring someone in Canada at the time... plus iirc I was still in High School. [03:58:19] 03(mod) MobileFrontend should provide a way for the pages to display mobile-only content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32597 summary (10Yuvi Panda) [03:58:30] Then John Q. left. [03:58:45] Anyway, they seem to hire anyone with a pulse who knows PHP. [03:59:04] You may have to move to SF. [03:59:14] Wait, you're out of high school? [03:59:14] No go. [03:59:14] and is prepared to put up with a 3-month hiring process [03:59:18] 03(FIXED) Search Button Incorrectly Positioned - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31716 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [03:59:21] Impressive. [03:59:29] work for platform, we don't make people move [03:59:35] Isarra: Behave, plesae. [03:59:52] * Isarra pies Brooke. [03:59:57] Now the other cheek. [04:00:02] lol [04:00:06] That got most of your torso. [04:00:15] Don't I know it. [04:00:26] You don't. [04:00:55] sometimes it does take a while for volunteers to get through the hiring process [04:01:09] Change abandoned: Isarra; "What does this do?" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28657 [04:01:17] mostly because all the departments have to fight each other to see who gets the person [04:02:25] Is that why they fight each other? I always thought it was just to make them look busy. [04:02:44] Someone needs a nap. [04:02:52] And maybe a bite to eat. [04:03:04] Change restored: Isarra; "?" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28657 [04:03:19] Uh... nobody saw that. [04:03:49] What does abandoning a change actually do? [04:04:04] Marks it as abandoned. [04:04:17] What is the significance of that? [04:04:34] As I understand it, a primary purpose of Gerrit is to track commits and their status. [04:04:44] Similar to Bugzilla, kind of. [04:04:56] 03(mod) Tracking Bug for first release of Wikisource Android App - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39488 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [04:05:07] So you can mark a change merged, open, or abandoned. [04:05:19] 14(WFM) many mobile url don't work anymore : Error 503 Service Unavailable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40333 +comment (10Jon) [04:05:19] So abandoned is like resolved? [04:05:33] Kind of. [04:05:33] 14(WFM) Edittools not working on GRW. Click a button and you're re-set to top of page and value not added to edit field. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41059 +comment (10Hazard-SJ) [04:05:48] Abandoned is like no. Merged is like yes. Open is like maybe. [04:05:50] Well, it's how you'd cancel something, right? [04:05:51] Or open is ???. [04:06:02] Cancel something? [04:06:05] Mmkay. So I guess I meant to do that after all, or something. [04:06:17] Do you want to walk away from the commit? [04:06:24] If so, you should mark it abandoned. [04:06:31] I want to replace it with something better. [04:06:51] A totally different idea or a similar idea? [04:06:59] 14(WFM) Special page namespace aliases redirect broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37091 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [04:07:02] Same thing, completely different implementation. [04:07:03] That is, are you going to improve what you have there or start over? [04:07:17] Okay, so, yeah, just mark that changeset abandoned. [04:07:28] What bug are you working on? [04:07:28] Pretty much what Dantman said, except unlike him and his perpetual whinging, I intend to actually make it happen. [04:07:43] Hmmm. [04:08:03] You're working on your own bug. [04:08:03] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40610 but obviously the proposed fix no longer applies. Was kind of off in the first place, for that matter. [04:08:06] Yes. [04:08:15] Right. [04:08:21] You're a beginning developer. [04:08:28] I'm sorry. [04:08:30] Knowing both the problem and the solution is difficult. :-) [04:08:33] I forgive you. [04:08:36] My point is: [04:08:43] Is it? [04:08:43] try some bugs filed by others and marked as easy. [04:08:48] Yes. [04:08:52] At least it is for beginners. [04:08:58] You get better at it with time. [04:09:21] I tried this because I knew a solution. That it wasn't an optimal one, well... that may be the case for any of them. [04:09:27] Anyway, you'll have much better luck if you work on some easy bugs that others have poked at. [04:09:29] No, you just have more solutions in your bag of tricks. Generally you have less ability to envision both problem and solution. [04:09:43] Right, I'm saying you can save yourself time by looking at other easy bugs that have some mappings for a proper solution. [04:09:58] And how will I know if it really is or not? [04:10:05] Proper, that is. [04:10:27] Trial and error, I guess. [04:10:34] So basically same as here. [04:10:45] 03(mod) Last visited page not persisted at start - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38706 (10Yuvi Panda) [04:10:48] You could ask first. [04:10:55] Though most bugs marked easy are easy. [04:11:10] Change abandoned: Isarra; "Okay, better solution coming soon to a store near you." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28657 [04:11:17] Why are the buttons backwards in gerrit? [04:11:40] Ask whom? [04:11:46] Gerrit's UI wasn't engineered. [04:11:56] The folks who ran into this one worked around it by adding a -2px margin. [04:11:56] Ask in here. Ask on the bug. [04:11:58] Ask Sumana. [04:12:18] Even my crappy workaround was still better than that. [04:12:34]
[04:12:43] #wpEditBox { [04:12:54] That's a little confusing. [04:13:10] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Clear $this->mOptionsLoaded in User::clearInstanceCache()" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28661 [04:13:31] Oh, shush. Writing code in a box never was my strong suit. [04:14:07] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28661 [04:14:31] Isarra: You mean coding? [04:14:56] New patchset: Tim Landscheidt; "Protect against Xdebug overloading var_dump()." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28662 [04:15:07] No, code in a box. [04:15:08] Isarra: By the way, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40610 could do with a screenshot. [04:15:10] Isarra, welcome to MediaWiki development. Brooke is an artificial construct, designed to test the psychological constitution and resilience of would-be contributors. [04:15:22] It ain't even code. [04:15:27] You can add an attachment to the bug report itself. [04:15:31] So what's Dantman? [04:15:41] ori-l: I'm killing Wikipedia. [04:15:54] sweet! can i join? [04:15:57] They call me the Disengagor. [04:15:59] Brooke: I'm not sure I'd figured out attachments yet at that point. [04:16:09] Isarra: I forgive you. [04:16:14] No you don't. [04:16:22] I did. [04:16:35] Bugzilla's UI is only slightly better than Gerrit's. [04:16:41] 03(mod) xdebug causes bogus failures for -related parser tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36452 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [04:16:43] Oh, on the contrary, it is much better. [04:16:50] At least it kind of resembles Vector or something. [04:16:50] It renders cross-browser, for one. [04:17:04] 14(DUP) Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in User.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41175 +comment (10Tim Starling) [04:17:04] 03(mod) "Invalid argument supplied for foreach" in User::saveOptions() during automatic account creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41198 +comment (10Tim Starling) [04:17:10] Such lofty standards. [04:17:10] It also fits on most screen sizes. Not exactly... well, but... [04:17:20] New review: Tim Starling; ""I think this caused bug 41175 - Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in User.php"" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7376 [04:17:21] Tim duping up. Tsk. [04:17:28] But you get that right if you're fixing the bug. [04:18:07] * Isarra huggles ori-l and curls up next to him. [04:18:07] Isarra: I joked that the UI seems like it was designed by Microsoft. Everything is possible, it just takes far longer to learn than it should. [04:18:19] With gerrit? [04:18:19] 03(FIXED) "Invalid argument supplied for foreach" in User::saveOptions() during automatic account creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41198 +comment (10Tim Starling) [04:18:25] The Gerrit UI, yes. [04:18:34] It seems exactly like microsoft. Follows some of their design patterns to the letter. [04:18:35] The search input is a good example of that. [04:18:43] Very powerful, but a complete pain in the ass to use. [04:18:49] Button order, positionings, padding, styles... [04:19:05] Erik was joking about that awful error message it uses. [04:19:10] Using a completely illogical platform... [04:19:19] How it creates a Pavlovian response in users. [04:19:27] Adding more crap on top of it instead of resolving existing issues... [04:19:34] Well, maybe not Pavlovian. [04:20:03] Not knowing what to do with the return key... "What's this thing? Tab? I think that's tab." [04:20:37] Application Error [04:20:43] Fade to black. [04:21:11] It does say it's working sometimes when it is trying to do stuff, though. Does anything microsoft makes ever do that? [04:21:36] Apparently the Windows 7 green loading bar is now the subject of ire. [04:21:48] It has a loading bar? [04:21:55] At the top of the window, yeah. [04:22:09] When it's loading a list of something. Like when you list all programs you can uninstall. [04:22:17] There's a green slider at the top. [04:22:46] * ori-l brbs [04:22:54] We'll miss you. [04:26:15] Huh, I never noticed. [04:26:30] Oh. [04:26:37] You must not have horribly slow network drives. [04:26:44] DVD loading also does it, I think. [04:26:47] When the disc is winding up. [04:26:49] No, I just don't use windows for them. [04:27:33] Only things I really use it for are virtual machines, videogames, huggle, browser testing, IRC, and filling it with 200 terminals just to see how it reacts. [04:28:14] You know, I can't decide which is worse... gerrit, or the english wikipedia's arbitration committee. [04:44:50] 03(mod) Feedback page: Replace 'Decline oversight' with 'Oversight declined' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41058 +patch-in-gerrit (10drecodeam) [04:52:28] Brooke: So you were saying I should do more of these: "I don't know what these changes are supposed to accomplish but somebody told me to make them." [04:55:16] 03(NEW) Backspace does not remove paragraph when previous paragraph contains nowiki block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41202 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; (nicolas.raoul) [05:00:48] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Backspace does not remove paragraph when previous paragraph contains nowiki block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41202 summary (10Nicolas Raoul) [05:05:45] I'm sure this gets asked all the time, but is there any skin galleries that are actually up to date and/or can anyone point me to a good dark version of vector that works? I'd really like to avoid having to design my own if possible. [05:13:09] Theowning, no... Any gallery is full of completely out of date skins. Not that many people are bothering making modern skins yet. [05:13:23] :( [05:14:07] I got a Skin: namepace and category ready for new skins. And gerrit is ready to take skin repos. [05:14:56] But the only skin that's been updated so far is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Erudite and it still has a few issues. [05:19:57] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Paragraph containing nowiki block does not change style unless block selected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41203 minor; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; (nicolas.raoul) [05:20:06] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Paragraph containing nowiki block does not change style unless block selected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41203 (10Nicolas Raoul) [05:27:55] hi [05:28:23] are there tools that allow searches through all (or a subset of) previous edits of a page or set of pages? [05:28:57] i ask because http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Can_we_still_use_books_as_refs.3F [05:35:59] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Strange behavior after overwriting nowiki block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41204 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; (nicolas.raoul) [05:36:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Strange behavior after overwriting nowiki block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41204 (10Nicolas Raoul) [05:39:43] 03(mod) VisualEditor: LinkTrailed links appear differently before and after save-reload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41160 +comment (10Liangent) [05:51:58] rigel, No we only index current versions of pages. We don't index old revisions or diffs. [05:52:49] 03(mod) have wikivoyage and wikidata IRC cloaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41144 +comment (10Casey Brown) [05:55:32] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26891 [05:55:37] rigel, A tool would probably have to take a WP dump and index it in a way that can be utalized. [05:57:00] Hey, I was referred here from #wikipedia-en-help. Is there a way to download the entire revision history of a page? The special:export seems to have a limit of 1000. [05:57:40] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Cursor misplaced after clicking on nowiki block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41205 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; (nicolas.raoul) [05:57:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cursor misplaced after clicking on nowiki block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41205 (10Nicolas Raoul) [06:18:20] So how do you use gerrit with an extension? [06:23:12] hi all... [06:23:39] is anybody here had tried copying design from another wiki?? [06:23:47] I have... [06:23:55] it sucks [06:24:09] hi Saruman ...why? [06:24:18] did it not copy all design? [06:24:47] im trying to copy the look and feel of mediawiki front page.. but it seems the templates are endless :( [06:24:52] design is often an intricate mess of extensions, templates and changes to skins [06:25:07] spaghetti is nice and accessible in comparison [06:25:43] you're way, WAY better off trying to create the design yourself ,then to try to copy it verbatim [06:25:52] spaghetti??? can u explain that? [06:26:11] hmmmnnn [06:26:21] spaghetti code is an expression to describe unstructured undocumented programming code [06:26:50] don't copy the templates, create them yourself after you're inspired by the other wiki [06:26:54] yep [06:26:54] s [06:27:06] and don't try to reach the pixelperfect copy in 1 step [06:27:35] check the other wiki's templates and extension list to improve your own design step by step [06:27:36] yep Saruman i did that.. but the templates used in mediawiki.org front page is endless.. like theres a bunch of template in every template and so on.. [06:27:51] exactly [06:28:07] thats why i didnt get that much :( [06:28:15] so start with the outer one, and see if yu can understand what it's trying to do, without bothering too much about how it's trying [06:28:37] hmmmn [06:28:57] do you have a personal wiki design Saruman ? [06:29:06] anyway, that's my advice [06:29:21] yes, but it's nothing to be too proud of [06:29:21] hmmmn [06:29:23] thanks for that [06:36:45] 03(mod) initialization of the Language object is very heavy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41103 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [06:38:00] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[WikimediaAgg] Add PostEdit, used on enwiki, dewiki, testwiki for now" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28663 [06:38:17] When I try to git review, it lists a bunch of localisations updates as outstanding commits. How do I get these to go away? [06:38:22] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28663 [06:38:37] They have absolutely nothing to do with what I'm doing, and rebasing doesn't appear to help. [06:42:23] hi Saruman do you know of some wiki that uses table for their design, and not templates??.. any lists? [06:42:47] i cant really do it with templates :( [06:43:00] nappy: templates are just like macros [06:43:21] yep.. but for now i preferred tables first... [06:43:22] so if you want to order stuff, you can create a table and wrap that in a template [06:43:27] do you know one? [06:43:42] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Swift compatibility and misc improvements" [mediawiki/extensions/Score] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23644 [06:43:42] Try this: https://dya-knowledge.sogeti.nl/dir/Main_Page [06:43:46] 03(mod) Fatal installer error using Oracle DB (HTTP 500 error): undefined function mb_check_encoding() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41146 +comment (10Jure Kajzer) [06:43:47] 03(mod) Upgrade Wikimedia OTRS installation to the latest version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22622 +comment (10Martin Edenhofer) [06:44:28] every front page box is a two-cell table in a div [06:45:11] New review: Tim Starling; "PS2: rebased, fixed i18n conflict, fixed $wgScoreFileBackend variable name in Score.php and improved..." [mediawiki/extensions/Score] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23644 [06:45:40] okay thanks Saruman :) [06:46:08] New patchset: Isarra; "Width tweaks for consistency with surrounding elements" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28664 [06:46:40] New review: Tim Starling; "I've now tested this with Ceph's Swift API, and it seems to work, so I'm ready to merge this and dep..." [mediawiki/extensions/Score] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23644 [06:46:53] nappy np [06:48:51] do u think this http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki is made of tables Saruman ? [06:51:05] i tried to view the source but the code is limited [06:52:18] mornin (CET) [06:55:22] nappy I once tried to fathom that page, but failed, so I went and created my own table-in-a-div approac [06:55:25] New patchset: Isarra; "Prevent editing textarea from overflowing out of bodyContent" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28665 [06:55:36] in the basis it's probably the same anyway [06:55:50] hmmnn okay.. try to make it a table first.. inserting image on the second row :D [06:56:04] hope this will work :) [06:56:04] babysteps, nappy, babysteps [06:56:11] heheeh [06:57:49] 03(mod) WikiEditor interface overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40608 +comment (10Isarra) [06:59:03] 03(mod) Editing textarea overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40610 +comment (10Isarra) [07:09:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support forks of Firefox in the browser whitelist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41147 +comment (10Liangent) [07:12:40] Download MediaWiki extension [07:12:40] Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client. [07:12:47] How do i download plugins? [07:30:43] Someone? [07:30:58] you can try if the extension has a link to Git [07:31:44] Eagleman: which extension are you trying to get? [07:32:56] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28536 [07:34:29] New review: Nikerabbit; "Does this mean that when Translate disables presave transform for all message pages, they now stop t..." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28552 [07:35:38] a lot of extensions [07:35:49] some of them are custom written some of them are on the wiki [07:37:06] I'd think the extension distributor will get repaired fairly soon - until then you'll have to manage somehow [07:44:33] 03(mod) Call to a member function getText() on a non-object at Message.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41186 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [07:50:09] 03(NEW) Parsoid know nothing about linkprefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41206 normal; Parsoid: General; (liangent) [07:50:18] 03(mod) Parsoid knows nothing about linkprefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41206 summary (10Liangent) [07:53:31] New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Improved Time handling" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28666 [07:54:09] Change merged: Markus Kroetzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28666 [07:57:39] New review: Nikerabbit; "There should be no need to support 1.16 anymore." [mediawiki/extensions/SlimboxThumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28602 [08:02:26] 03(FIXED) Some Julian dates are internally confused with Gregorian dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41126 +comment (10Markus Krötzsch) [08:02:41] 03(NEW) Undefined variable useCtxtAsKey in ffs/GettextFFS.php on line 178 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41207 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (s.mazeland) [08:04:12] New patchset: Aude; "various cleanup and updating the code" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStreetMapSlippyMap] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28667 [08:05:53] 03(NEW) Maximum execution time exceeded: Levenshtein too slow we guess... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41208 major; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (s.mazeland) [08:07:14] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "What is the status of this?" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23991 [08:07:28] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28608 [08:18:06] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Preemptively add image-set to our sanitizer." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28668 [08:24:29] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fix warning about undefined variable" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28669 [08:27:33] 03(mod) Add a 'Night Mode' to the Wikipedia Mobile app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35251 (10darwish.d.d) [08:30:23] 03(mod) Unsupported operand types at Language.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41194 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:37:28] 03(NEW) $wgExtraLanguageNames is used for sites instead of languages in WikiVoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41209 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (amir.aharoni) [08:41:27] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 41207) Undefined variable useCtxtAsKey" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28669 [08:41:42] 03(FIXED) Undefined variable useCtxtAsKey in ffs/GettextFFS.php on line 178 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41207 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:48:43] 03(NEW) List of languages in page source - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41210 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; (niklas.laxstrom) [08:53:28] 03(mod) Unsupported operand types at Language.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41194 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [08:59:32] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Support role="presentation" inside of WikiText." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28670 [09:08:24] New patchset: Aude; "link to entity on repo with or without items in main ns" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28498 [09:10:51] New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Implement consequences of new Container handling" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28671 [09:11:37] Change merged: Markus Kroetzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28671 [09:16:32] 03(mod) mwdumper doesn't set page.is_redirect for borderline #redirect syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7497 (10Bean49) [09:35:22] 03(NEW) [PostEdit]: PostEdit doesn't work when referrer is deactivated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41211 normal; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; (fomafix) [09:39:01] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28498 [09:43:22] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "typo fix in selenium test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28672 [09:43:26] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28672 [09:50:50] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28669 [09:51:19] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28335 [09:54:02] Why does the git tags stop at 1.19.2? And how do I check out 1.21/wmf2? [09:57:39] New patchset: J; "Dont use unicode characters in temorary name" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28673 [10:01:22] jeblad_WMDE: 1.19.2 is the latest stable release [10:02:20] I'm not interested in the latest stable release, I'm interested in 1.21/wmf2 [10:06:52] 03(NEW) Display more meaningful message in case of adding a site-link to a page which is linked to from another item already - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41212 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.werner) [10:17:21] 03(mod) mwdumper doesn't set page.is_redirect for borderline #redirect syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7497 +comment (10bennylin) [10:25:50] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 41178) Check whether content is null or false." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28674 [10:26:21] 03(mod) Call to a member function isEmpty() on a non-object in EditPage.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41178 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [10:27:46] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "@nikerabbit: yes. I didn't even know it was possible to disable PST. Please file a separate bug for ..." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28552 [10:29:07] 03(mod) [Regression] ContentHandler should not disable parsing of .js/.css wiki pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41155 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [10:33:29] 03(mod) mwdumper doesn't set page.is_redirect for borderline #redirect syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7497 +comment (10Bean49) [10:36:34] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "needs rebase" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28199 [10:40:36] 03(mod) mwdumper doesn't set page.is_redirect for borderline #redirect syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7497 +comment (10Bean49) [10:43:01] bug found, fingers disconnected from brain.. [10:50:53] I'm adding settings to the LocalSettings.php which should prevent anon users to edit pages. It's not working. Is there a setting I need to change in order of the "disable anon edit settings" to work? [10:51:41] Solacium: what setting have you added ? [10:51:43] Solacium: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:FAQ#How_do_I_stop_anonymous_users_from_editing_any_page.3F [10:52:03] You should simply add in your LocalSettings.php file : $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [10:53:00] Solacium: [[Special:ListGroupRights]] gives you the rights for each group of users [10:55:40] Sorry. I want non-users to not edit pages. I have tried $wgWhitelistEdit and $wgGroupPermissions [10:56:38] '*' is a special group which matches everyone [10:56:52] so $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; should be fine [10:58:31] hi all.. may i ask what is the total width/pixel of the editing area??? [11:08:56] Ah.. Every edit in the LocalSettings.php won't affect my wiki at all, that's why the settings aren't working. [11:09:51] Are the class names for different parts of a wiki page hard-coded or can I specify them in the skin? [11:10:12] (I'm trying to make a custom skin for an intranet wiki.) [11:32:44] New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Check validity before accessing member object" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28675 [11:34:10] Change merged: Markus Kroetzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28675 [11:37:15] Solacium: Try to find the LocalSettings.php that is at the root of your wiki. [11:38:06] Solacium: Or maybe file permissions are not correct? [11:38:30] 03(NEW) Translation for Portal namespaces in Galician - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41213 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (toli.galipedia) [11:39:58] tale: I was editing the backup copy of my LocalSettings.php, but it's good now. [11:41:30] 03(mod) Translation for Portal namespaces in Galician - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41213 (10Siebrand) [11:41:54] 03(mod) Translation for Portal namespaces in Galician - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41213 +shell (10Siebrand) [11:59:00] New review: schmir; "I've tested this change together my changes in github and it fixed the "book loading" issue. I'm giv..." [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28380 [12:02:26] New review: schmir; "siebrand: this does not fix 40900, loading books still does not work (i.e. it only loads chapters)" [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28380 [12:04:41] 03(mod) Chunked upload fails with internal_api_error_UploadStashFileNotFoundException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36587 +comment (10Jan Gerber) [12:07:30] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "tests for sorting sitelinks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28676 [12:19:03] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "New version: 0.9.4" [mediawiki/extensions/ReplaceText] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28677 [12:21:16] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/ReplaceText] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28677 [12:22:06] Brooke : I run wiki for my private site. [12:26:09] 03(NEW) Generalize Autocomment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41214 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad) [12:28:43] New patchset: Siebrand; "Keep using QuickTemplate's msg() and msgWiki()." [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28380 [12:31:51] 04(REOPENED) mwdumper java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Invalid contributor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18328 04CRIT->normal; +comment (10Bean49) [12:35:24] New patchset: Siebrand; "(bug 40900) Fix Special:Books and load book content again" [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28380 [12:36:46] 03(mod) Books rendered without content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40900 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:38:41] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Refactored _onRefreshView to work with table sorter" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28678 [12:39:14] New patchset: Siebrand; "(bug 40900) Fix Special:Books and load book content again" [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28380 [12:39:32] New review: Siebrand; "PS updates the commit summary." [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28380 [12:44:06] What is the best way to reference an image from php, for which I have the relative URL (e.g. '/mywiki/images/a/b/image.jpg') [12:50:57] New review: schmir; "good: loading books still works" [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28380 [12:59:48] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Removed unused use statements" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28512 [13:00:14] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28512 [13:04:16] I'm trying to make a custom skin for an intranet wiki. Are the class names for different parts of the skin hard-coded or can I specify them in the skin? [13:08:40] New patchset: Hashar; "Protect against Xdebug overloading var_dump()." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28662 [13:12:20] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28662 [13:12:35] 03(FIXED) xdebug causes bogus failures for -related parser tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36452 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:13:16] New patchset: Hashar; "Revert excessive indenting from 28433" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28503 [13:13:30] feob, From where? [13:17:33] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "This needs a rebase as the dependency has changed.." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28365 [13:17:51] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28503 [13:19:26] New review: Siebrand; "If you want I can take out your github changes again. Then please submit those as a separate patch s..." [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28380 [13:21:17] New patchset: Hashar; "Release note for ApiQueryORM class" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28240 [13:23:38] 03(mod) tablesorter should sort images with alt text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40044 +comment (10Daniel Werner) [13:25:11] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28240 [13:25:11] New review: schmir; "no, let's just get this applied now please." [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28380 [13:25:15] New patchset: Hashar; "Add some debug logging to ContentHandler" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28036 [13:26:08] New review: Daniel Werner; "Sorry, but I had to re-evaluate my opinion on this, see:" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23100 [13:29:00] New review: Hashar; "If all the classes depends on the gd extensions to be installed, they should skip the test whenever ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27737 [13:29:45] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28036 [13:30:24] 03(mod) tablesorter should sort images with alt text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40044 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [13:35:51] 03(NEW) Extensions on GIT can't be downloaded! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41215 blocker; MediaWiki extensions: ExtensionDistributor; (subfader) [13:36:12] 03(mod) tablesorter should sort images with alt text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40044 +comment (10Daniel Werner) [13:36:23] New review: Hashar; "Moving a function breaks back compatibility. You want the old functions to call the new ones." [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28492 [13:40:05] 03(mod) ExtensionDistributor does not work: "Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41081 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:40:05] 14(DUP) Extensions on GIT can't be downloaded! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41215 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:40:09] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 40876) Icon for PSD (Adobe Photoshop) file types." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27865 [13:41:14] 03(mod) Translation for Portal namespaces in Galician - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41213 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:41:54] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28674 [13:42:43] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "I have to agree with Daniel W here. While it makes sense to me to use the ALT-attribute as fallback ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23100 [13:43:14] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 40876) Icon for PSD (Adobe Photoshop) file types." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27865 [13:43:41] New review: Hashar; "PS2: rebase" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27865 [13:43:43] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27865 [13:44:07] 03(FIXED) Icon for PSD (Adobe Photoshop) file types - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40876 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:45:13] 03(mod) tablesorter should sort images with alt text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40044 +comment (10Daniel Werner) [13:46:53] New review: Hashar; "Can you please make a more descriptive commit message? It is totally unclear what role="presentati..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28670 [13:47:36] New patchset: Reedy; "(Bug 41178) Check whether content is null or false." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28679 [13:47:50] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28679 [13:50:13] 03(NEW) Stub tag being put in the wrong place - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41216 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (okeyes) [13:56:35] 14(WFM) Mobile Homepage in Ossetian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28808 +comment (10Soslan Khubulov) [14:08:26] New review: John Erling Blad; "As a long-time contributor on Wikipedia I would say this is an interesting solution to a well-known ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23100 [14:15:06] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Move GeoMath & SlippyMap into MapSources" [mediawiki/extensions/MapSources] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28348 [14:16:20] Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/MwEmbedSupport] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28354 [14:24:09] New review: Daniel Werner; "There is already a #searchform in most skins, so it might make more sense to really introduce that o..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27969 [14:39:16] New patchset: Hashar; "[FileBackend] README file ala FileRepo." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28606 [14:44:04] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 40887) HTML template provider" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28680 [14:47:04] New review: Hashar; "First, thanks Aaron to have written that doc! That is definitely helping understand what filebacken..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28606 [14:48:38] hello. Where can I find a list of the CONTENT_MODEL_XXX-constants? [14:50:17] <^demon> DaBPunkt: Defines.php, where all such constants live. [14:51:53] ^demon: ok, tnx [15:00:12] 03(FIXED) beta all.dblist is a live hack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41133 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:02:03] Dantman: From php, I want to use the getimagesize() function [15:02:31] (in my extension) [15:04:06] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Attaching to sortEnd event before initialising tablesorter" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28681 [15:04:30] 03(mod) Seeking in video files (range requests) does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40779 +comment (10Mark Bergsma) [15:21:50] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added check in unserialize of geocoord dv" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28682 [15:26:44] Change merged: Markus Kroetzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28682 [15:29:56] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 40887) HTML template provider" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28680 [15:39:44] 03(mod) Only allow schema changes affecting deployment to be merged with consent of group-to-be-defined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36228 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:39:57] 03(mod) URL-encode non-ASCII characters in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41152 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [15:45:03] 03(FIXED) Create Jenkins job(s) for Wikidata extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37050 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:45:59] New patchset: Liangent; "Move some functions to a new class: ArrayUtils" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28492 [15:45:59] New patchset: Liangent; "Do not always prepend $wgCategoryCollation to $wgCategoryCollations" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28185 [15:45:59] New patchset: Liangent; "Fix various boundary cases in IcuCollation::findLowerBound()" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28491 [15:45:59] New patchset: Liangent; "Fix some issues pointed out in CR" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28020 [15:46:27] 03(mod) Linktrail is wrongly applied to CJK characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41151 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [15:48:12] New review: Liangent; "@Nike: I turned Collation::singleton() to call wfDeprecated( __METHOD__, '1.21' );" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28020 [15:48:33] 03(mod) Parsoid knows nothing about linkprefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41206 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [15:48:33] 03(WONTFIX) [upstream] Jenkins can't fingerprint .git/FETCH_HEAD - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38260 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:49:36] inline-only gerrit comments are ignored by gerrit-wm irc bot? [15:50:02] 03(WONTFIX) Jenkins: remove fingerprinting from mw extension job - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39838 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:50:28] liangent: the bot only report the cover message [15:50:38] liangent: and does not report an empty cover message :-] [15:52:33] hashar: and we're encouraged to write cover message? [15:53:12] 03(WONTFIX) Retriggered builds in Jenkins shouldn't lose track of children builds - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35706 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:54:05] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 40887) HTML template provider" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28680 [15:57:38] 03(mod) [Regression] ContentHandler should not disable parsing of .js/.css wiki pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41155 +comment (10Krinkle) [15:58:52] 03(mod) No fa_sha1 schema update for PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41114 +comment (10Umherirrender) [16:04:23] 03(mod) Mobile homepage for eo.WP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30048 +comment (10Arno Lagrange) [16:04:48] New patchset: Adamw; "Skip the banner list loading request" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28235 [16:06:32] 03(mod) [SMW] When mainlabel specified an extra mainlabel parameter is added in the further results link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34749 +comment (10Yaron Koren) [16:09:32] New review: MaxSem; "Use mw.util.wikiScript() instead of reimplementing it yourself;)" [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28446 [16:16:14] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 40887) HTML template provider" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28680 [16:16:24] New patchset: Adamw; "WIP Skip the banner list loading request" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28235 [16:17:27] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 40887) HTML template provider" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28680 [16:18:01] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28680 [16:24:22] 03(NEW) Failed round-trip if HTML entities are in target of links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41217 normal; Parsoid: General; (liangent) [16:25:34] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fix tests: apparently a PHPUNit Exception is thrown under certain configs" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28684 [16:25:49] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28684 [16:26:24] 03(NEW) Incorrect page is linked when page title contains a question mark - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41218 normal; Parsoid: General; (liangent) [16:27:09] liangent: yes, comments with empty body are ingored [16:27:16] liangent: there's a bug for this on bugzilla [16:28:05] basically the rationale is that reviews with no comment,s just a +/-1 shouldn't be reported, but gerrit sucks and doesn't provide arguments containing inline comments to the script that can be set up on a "new review" event. [16:28:16] so it's impossible to distinguish them [16:28:29] 03(mod) Linktrail is wrongly applied to CJK characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41151 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [16:29:57] 03(mod) Requesting 'sections' for nonexistent page does not give error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41042 +comment (10Umherirrender) [16:30:05] MatmaRex: how many +/-1 only reviews are there? [16:30:26] i'm only repeating what somebody told me [16:30:29] i think it was chad [16:30:31] lemme find the bug [16:30:54] MatmaRex: I found it and its bug 40020 [16:30:57] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40020 [16:31:00] yeah. [16:31:43] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Update params of calender format" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28685 [16:37:28] 03(mod) Special:ActiveUsers query is very slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41078 +comment (10Umherirrender) [16:42:08] 03(mod) DSR on templates in tables seems to be off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41057 (10ssastry) [16:43:50] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Fix a crash on old-style logins" [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28687 [16:44:01] Change merged: MarkTraceur; [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28687 [16:45:21] New review: Krinkle; "-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28507 [16:53:41] 03(mod) m.wikinews.org has incorrect certificate (for *.wikipedia.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37650 (10Jon) [16:56:53] 03(mod) Uploading file with a slash in name removes all letters preceding it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41190 +comment (10Umherirrender) [17:02:38] Is anybody here able to delete an attachment in bugzilla? [17:04:26] <^demon> Vulpix: Why's it need deleting? [17:04:44] ^demon: can I PM you? [17:04:48] <^demon> Yes. [17:04:59] I guess it's privacy stuff :) [17:06:52] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Enotif body: Replace named Parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22769 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [17:09:15] 03(mod) Uploading file with a slash in name removes all letters preceding it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41190 +comment (10Chad H.) [17:10:50] 03(mod) Put messages in external script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24060 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [17:11:05] <^demon> liangent: User accidentally submitted some debugging info containing private info :) [17:11:10] <^demon> Anyway, it's gone now. [17:11:52] 03(FIXED) Mobile contact us page is more complicated then it needs to be - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35041 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [17:12:18] <^demon> Vulpix was just being a polite community member and reporting it :) [17:12:50] 03(FIXED) Wikipedia Zero heading banner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32001 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [17:13:40] ^demon: I saw it before and it should just contained some cookies iirc? [17:13:54] just logout and they get invalidated [17:13:59] <^demon> Eh, better safe than sorry [17:15:13] I havent tested that by myself, but for example at wikia they use some sort of auth token that never changes even if you logout explicitly. Not sure if it's the same in wikimedia [17:15:15] ^demon: is it a bug that bugzilla exposes your email to unlogged in users? [17:15:41] Vulpix: it's not the same :) [17:15:49] <^demon> It shouldn't expose it to anons...I thought that was fixed ages ago. [17:16:11] ^demon: see your comment in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41190#c9 logged out [17:16:29] New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Update Store3 layout for geo coordinates" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28688 [17:16:30] <^demon> Oh, I guess in silly things like that. It's just plaintext in a comment. [17:16:39] <^demon> No different from me typing an e-mail in a comment. [17:17:00] Change merged: Markus Kroetzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28688 [17:17:00] ^demon: yeah but no one typed it manually [17:17:08] (and no one is intended to expose it [17:17:37] <^demon> File it upstream? Nothing we can fix really. [17:18:14] <^demon> Not to mention, BZ's kind of new to the whole "not exposing e-mail addresses" thing. It was only a couple of releases ago that they hid them from comment headers. [17:18:47] New patchset: Reedy; "Revert "Revert "Show a "(blocked)" hint on Special:ListUsers/ActiveUsers""" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28689 [17:19:35] 03(mod) Special:ActiveUsers query is very slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41078 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [17:20:44] ^demon: why does mozilla bugzilla have a different enter_bug.cgi interface? [17:22:24] 03(mod) Requesting 'sections' for nonexistent page does not give error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41042 (10Andre Klapper) [17:22:30] <^demon> They use this feature (can't remember the name). It sorta exists in default BZ installs, but needs a *ton* of customization to use. [17:22:42] <^demon> It's really mozilla-specific out of the box. [17:23:05] * sumanah looks at backlog to see whether andre__ is in this discussion [17:23:47] yay, a ping! [17:23:51] 03(FIXED) Put messages in external script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24060 (10Siebrand) [17:24:06] <^demon> I thought it was called "Guided" mode for some reason, but google's not being helpful. [17:24:20] 03(mod) Add a 'Night Mode' to the Wikipedia Mobile app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35251 +comment (10Jon) [17:24:32] <^demon> andre__: The question is about mozilla's nicer enter bug screen than ours. I was saying "Yeah it's a feature, but we never bothered to customize it" [17:25:20] I've tried to ask this a couple times and haven't had a response: Is it possible to use my own styles when building a custom MediaWiki skin, or are they hardcoded in the MediaWiki source? [17:25:31] ^demon, that's a custom bmo enhancement. it's not in upstream [17:25:36] RudyValencia: yes, of course [17:25:46] you can use your own almost everything [17:25:54] andre__: In case you don't have enough to do, you could highlight yourself on "bug" or "BZ" in #mediawiki :) [17:26:03] <^demon> andre__: The "guided" mode or whatever. They removed it from the standard release? I could've sworn it used to be a feature. [17:26:05] there is just some pre-generated HTML that's kinda enforced on you, e.g. the category list markup [17:26:10] <^demon> But just required a *lot* of work to setup. [17:26:18] cool because I'm making a skin for my company's intranet: http://test3.psiglenmere.com [17:26:21] ^demon: errm, guided mode is something else than Mozilla enter bug screen. [17:26:31] ^demon, what exactly are we talking about now? (URL welcome) :P [17:26:34] I think I can handle those pregenerated corner cases. [17:27:01] marktraceur: that sounds awesome! I might end up with epilepsy though? [17:27:02] 03(mod) Chunked upload fails with internal_api_error_UploadStashFileNotFoundException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36587 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [17:27:15] ^demon: re your most recent Git extension repo creations - thanks! tisane is listed on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers as Leucosticte which is also his Gerrit handle I think [17:27:21] andre__: This channel isn't *that* active! :) [17:27:44] <^demon> sumanah: Ah, didn't know he was same person. THen ok it's done. [17:27:44] liangent, thanks for upstreaming it [17:27:49] MatmaRex: thanks for the answer I appreciate it :D [17:28:18] RudyValencia: looks nice :) [17:28:28] <^demon> andre__: I'm not sure, to be honest. It's been ages since I've used bz.mz.o, I was just going based off what I remembered from liangent's question. [17:28:30] RudyValencia: btw you might want a developer access account [17:28:34] to fix stuff in other skins [17:28:43] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access [17:28:58] sumanah: I'm only making that skin for our internal knowledge wiki, called "Blackbook". [17:29:29] RudyValencia: yeah, but as you go, you may see bugs in our skin handling or something that need fixing [17:29:48] ^demon: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi is completely custom code, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided is also customized but mostly upstream code. [17:30:02] <^demon> I'm talking about the latter. [17:30:16] <^demon> I think liangent was asking about the former. [17:30:25] OK, I'll see if I come across anything while plugging in the PHP code in my skin. If so then I might inquire about dev access to submit patches. [17:30:39] sumanah, ^demon: yes, I was formerly tisane, and sumanah, you wrote in an email, "Sorry I couldn't change your shell username -- it is still 'tisane'." So, that's what I've been using with git. [17:31:01] <^demon> Ah ok. It's all clear now. [17:31:01] <^demon> Thanks [17:31:02] leucosticte: I'm sorry about that [17:31:08] * sumanah must head to a meeting [17:31:08] <^demon> leucosticte: Your repos are ready, then. [17:31:18] ^demon: ok, cool, thanks. [17:33:50] anyone know about postgres dev in mediawiki? [17:34:37] 03(NEW) No CSS shown on attachment.cgi when attachment was deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41219 trivial; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (aklapper) [17:40:32] 03(FIXED) Add Kaarangay: as namespace alias for Category: on warwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30813 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [17:40:51] 03(NEW) Edittols buttons broken in liquid threads reply and new topic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41220 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (subfader) [17:41:15] 03(mod) VisualEditor: When "Error saving data to server: Unsuccessful request: error." the spinner for saving doesn't go away - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37837 (10Christian Williams) [17:43:10] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Mouse selection very unreliable in Internet Explorer 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37850 (10Christian Williams) [17:43:31] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Grease_pit#Broken_Assisted_translation_adding.3F - andre__ did you already see this? [17:43:57] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Using page movement keys when focus is not in edit area still triggers movement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38007 (10Christian Williams) [17:44:01] sumanah: Grease_pit? no, didn't even know of its existence [17:45:25] ^demon: the installer is broken [17:45:34] the "Please set up the wiki first. " link is broken :) [17:45:56] <^demon> WFM as of like a couple weeks ago. [17:46:06] <^demon> But that's obviously no good if someone broke master. [17:46:26] I see, it works depending on the url you went to to access the wiki [17:46:29] <^demon> Ah, that's always been the case. [17:46:43] heh [17:46:46] <^demon> We've never found a totally fool-proof way to detect the config path, especially if you already have rewrites in place. [17:47:13] <^demon> (I know it breaks with Apache's Alias directive, at the very least) [17:47:13] andre__: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery has a list of the major "village pump" sort of pages on nearly all the wikis. But sometimes it does not have the more technical sub-pages [17:47:29] andre__: like "Village Pump:Technical" on English Wikipedia and the Grease Put on English Wiktionary [17:47:44] oh nice, a list! [17:48:01] guillom: I know there is a List of "VP:T"-type pages on our various wikis, but I simply cannot find or remember where! [17:48:01] do you? [17:49:12] sumanah: for global message delivery, i think it's better for the bot to post on "babel" village pump pages [17:49:19] (i dont know if enwiki has one) [17:49:27] e.g. the pl.wikipedia link there points to one [17:49:34] there = on that list [17:49:36] MatmaRex: are you willing to make a list of targets? might be quick to do [17:49:49] that is, a "target list" for the bot that consists of those pages [17:49:49] 03(mod) New Comments At Top of Talk Page [+] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15494 +comment (10MZMcBride) [17:50:05] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Backspace in list: deleted character re-appears - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41066 +comment (10Christian Williams) [17:50:18] MatmaRex: maybe I am misunderstanding you [17:50:37] 03(mod) Add new sections to the top of a page on a site-wide basis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15494 summary (10MZMcBride) [17:50:53] MatmaRex: basically, you see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets right? [17:51:27] MatmaRex: I think that sometimes we want "Distribution list/Global message delivery" - the general village pump-type pages [17:51:58] maybe i wasn't clear :) personally, i think that the global message delivery bot shouldn't be posting to regular VPT-like pages, but to multilanguage section of each wiki's village pump [17:52:00] and sometimes we want just the subset that is the Babel pages [17:52:07] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "*really* fix the auth error" [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28690 [17:52:19] MatmaRex: ok, yeah, I understand better now [17:52:23] hm, i was only looking at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery [17:52:26] Change merged: MarkTraceur; [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28690 [17:52:40] * marktraceur waves hand mystically [17:52:51] These are not the self-merged commits you're looking for [17:52:53] MatmaRex: on that list I only see 2 pages labelled "Babel" - are there more perhaps? [17:53:06] if so, a list would be great [17:53:07] i have no idea. i hope there are :P [17:53:10] but this might be just me [17:53:24] i can't speak for other people :) [17:53:27] i certainly like how pl.wiki has the Babel subpage there. [17:53:28] and if it's formatted as a Target list that could be a subpage of https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets then that would be really useful for people like me to use [17:54:11] 03(FIXED) VisualEditor: Backspace in list: deleted character re-appears - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41066 (10Christian Williams) [17:55:04] New code comment: Liangent; wgAjaxWatch is still used in jawiki site JS...; [17:55:06] apparently it's linked there, sumanah [17:55:35] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Offset is incorrect after alienInline in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41117 (10Christian Williams) [17:55:37] codurr was silent for a while :) [17:56:16] sumanah: i just looked at a few and it looks like most wikis only have a "miscellanea" section of village pump, and that's where some of these links are pointed at [17:56:37] 03(mod) Allow posting new sections to top of page on a per-page basis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31919 +easy; summary; +comment (10MZMcBride) [17:57:35] Can unnecessary footer links like Disclaimer and Privacy policy be disabled? [17:57:35] MatmaRex: when you say "it's linked there" could you be more specific about "it" and "there" since we are talking re a few different things? :) [17:57:49] ugh, sorry. i'm still taking about https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery [17:57:49] !skin | RudyValencia [17:57:50] There are multiple keys, refine your input: skingallery, skinning, skins, [17:57:55] !skins | RudyValencia [17:57:55] RudyValencia: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skins>. Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: http://blog.redwerks.org/2012/02/08/mediawiki-skinning-tutorial/ and the historical archive [17:58:03] !skinning | RudyValencia [17:58:04] RudyValencia: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skins>. Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: http://blog.redwerks.org/2012/02/08/mediawiki-skinning-tutorial/ and the historical archive [17:58:05] RudyValencia: yes, you can just choose not to render them [17:58:10] ah [17:58:21] it's a function called "getFooterLinks" or something [17:58:34] but it returns a lot of stuff [17:58:37] yeah, where do I change them/add new ones/etc? [17:58:47] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/WikiEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27488 [17:58:55] MatmaRex: right, I see 2 (two) Babel pages linked to from the "distribution list", but if there are more Babel pages elsewhere, on other wikis, then a list of those would be very useful. [17:59:09] RudyValencia: i think it returns an assoc. array of assoc. arrays of link data [17:59:32] AHA, MatmaRex - the left-hand side of https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AKawiarenka%2FBabel gives the interwiki table! [17:59:40] MatmaRex: elsewhere it is called the "embassy" [18:00:18] sumanah: can you explain how https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets is not what you want? [18:00:18] 03(mod) Add new sections to the top of a page on a site-wide basis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15494 +easy (10MZMcBride) [18:00:18] sumanah: ah, nice :D i didnt think about it [18:01:07] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28628 [18:01:08] RudyValencia: so you could filter it however you want, i guess. ver_dump() it and see [18:01:12] var_dump* [18:01:26] I don't want to just filter, I'd like to add some items. [18:01:26] guillom: Sure. That list of targets does NOT include a list of the *technical* discussion pages on our wikis. I'm specifically thinking about the *technical* subpages like Greasepit, VP:T, etc. [18:01:46] To do that I need to find the contents of footerlinks [18:02:45] sumanah: very few wikis have a page dedicated to technical issues. Only large wikis have a need for that. You can find the list as the interwikis of [[WP:VP/T]] [18:02:46] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Created README file for the file backend classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28606 [18:03:35] RudyValencia: i think you can add items to it using some hook or something, i dont know [18:03:35] There are like 20 of them. [18:03:51] 03(mod) A strict and correct Git workflow document is needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36437 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:04:05] RudyValencia: or just look at how this is used in other skins, like vector, and work from there [18:04:46] 14(WFM) dumpHtml: output directory has no index.html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30378 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:05:43] 03(FIXED) Page source is no longer trimmed from trailing whitespaces on save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41169 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [18:06:09] 03(mod) Uploading file with a slash in name removes all letters preceding it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41190 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo) [18:06:53] Reedy, does Listings work in recent MW versions at all? [18:07:07] New patchset: Catrope; "Add missing var statement" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28692 [18:07:17] 03(mod) VisualEditor: DOM out of sync with data model when typing next to a link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39603 (10Christian Williams) [18:07:51] 03(mod) A strict and correct Git workflow document is needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36437 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [18:08:10] New review: Reedy; "What? :/" [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28446 [18:09:10] 03(NEW) New namespaces for it.wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41221 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (e.r) [18:10:39] Reedy, is it clearer now? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/28446/ [18:11:07] 03(mod) New namespaces for it.wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41221 (10Krenair) [18:11:38] 03(mod) New namespaces for it.wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41221 +shell (10Emanuele Raoli) [18:15:09] 03(mod) Maximum execution time exceeded: Levenshtein too slow we guess... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41208 (10Sumana Harihareswara) [18:17:22] Hi, just got a report of !b 41187 on en.WN, but when I went to the bug it's been closed as a dupe of !b 37209 which description seems really unrelated... [18:18:18] [18:18:32] 14(WFM) Mobile homepage for eo.WP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30048 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:20:04] Amgine, same exception --> same bug [18:20:15] looks absolutely appropriate [18:20:29] 03(NEW) Syntactic diffs are being reported as semantic diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41222 normal; Parsoid: JS/tests; (ssastry) [18:21:56] 03(mod) No CSS shown on attachment.cgi when attachment was deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41219 (10Andre Klapper) [18:27:29] New patchset: Demon; "Maintenance script to clean up old bogus skin preferences" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28695 [18:28:00] MaxSem: thanks. [18:31:44] 03(mod) New namespaces for it.wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41221 (10Emanuele Raoli) [18:32:52] New review: MaxSem; "No underescaping, I've tested. @Siebrand: please don't -1 for not fixing all the problems in the ext..." [mediawiki/extensions/Listings] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27779 [18:32:52] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/extensions/Listings] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27779 [18:34:24] New patchset: Demon; "Maintenance script to clean up old bogus skin preferences" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28695 [18:35:36] 03(mod) Editing on mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30306 (10Jon) [18:36:35] I've been searching the web for a mediawiki adapter for ckeditor and from all i can tell it's unsupported. Is it still possible though? [18:37:20] 03(mod) The link in the zero-rated banner does not take me to more information about wp zero - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36910 (10Jon) [18:37:30] kaste: Possible, but there are better, more active editor projects, I think. [18:37:54] ok, any one in particular you recommend? [18:38:19] kaste: I like WikiEditor pretty well. [18:38:21] !e WikiEditor | kaste [18:38:22] kaste: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor [18:39:36] 03(mod) Zooming will hide reference div on Firefox Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38647 normal->15enhancement (10Jon) [18:40:50] 03(mod) Mobile site rendering issues on www.wikipedia.org using Samsung phones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39987 (10Jon) [18:41:06] hmm fckeditor provided template support, i don't see that in wikieditor i think [18:41:23] 03(mod) Mobile site rendering issues on www.wikipedia.org using Samsung phones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39987 +comment (10Jon) [18:42:05] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Articlefeedbackv5-error-abuse prevents localisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38591 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [18:43:11] 03(mod) Incomplete i18n for log entries in CheckUser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39013 summary (10Amir E. Aharoni) [18:43:20] 03(mod) Mobile site rendering issues on www.wikipedia.org using Samsung phones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39987 +comment (10Jon) [18:43:20] 03(mod) Incomplete i18n for log entries in CentralAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39045 summary (10Amir E. Aharoni) [18:43:52] ah i think i want WYSIWYG it seems to be a custom version of ckeditor for mediawiki thanks [18:43:58] 14(INVALID) New WAP view, headings into links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31714 +comment (10Jon) [18:44:27] 03(mod) Limited languages get Zero banner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33999 (10Jon) [18:44:55] 03(mod) Wikipedia Zero tracker - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34000 (10Jon) [18:45:47] 03(WONTFIX) Chrome Web App with offline support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31981 +comment (10Jon) [18:45:52] kaste: You should probably follow the VisualEditor project, too [18:45:54] !ve [18:45:54] There are multiple keys, refine your input: vector, version, versionlifecycle, [18:46:02] !visualeditor [18:46:03] .... [18:46:11] !e VisualEditor [18:46:12] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor [18:46:17] 14(INVALID) Make icon into Home link, create Wikipedia menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31399 +comment (10Jon) [18:47:18] 03(FIXED) Add a data access charge warning for Wikipedia Zero within Mobile Frontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32002 +comment (10Jon) [18:47:36] 14(INVALID) Featured articles, featured pictures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32269 +comment (10Jon) [18:47:51] 14(INVALID) Clean up search box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31934 +comment (10Jon) [18:48:47] 14(INVALID) Custom map apps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32274 +comment (10Jon) [18:49:18] 03(mod) Messages are missing message documentation (/qqq) in the Validator extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41189 summary (10Amir E. Aharoni) [18:49:24] 14(WFM) Enabling display of the main page in Indic Wikipedia mobile sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34152 (10Jon) [18:50:06] 03(NEW) Emptying paragraph in Firefox with backspace adds
- 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41223 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; (orbit) [18:50:46] 06(LATER) Show English search result if none in other language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32541 +comment (10Jon) [18:51:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Emptying paragraph in Firefox with backspace adds
- 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41223 summary (10Christian Williams) [18:54:53] 03(mod) Varnish cluster 503's should disaply a better error page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36498 +comment (10Jon) [18:54:54] 03(WONTFIX) VisualEditor: Deleting selection does not delete selected list bullet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41158 +comment (10Christian Williams) [18:57:07] 03(mod) Upload photos straight from Wikipedia articles or other front-ends - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33428 (10Jon) [18:57:08] New patchset: Demon; "Completely remove support for ancient skins" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [18:57:13] 03(mod) Add photos to articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33428 summary (10Jon) [18:57:15] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed compatibility with PHP 5.4" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28698 [18:58:20] New review: Demon; "PS3 keeps CologneBlue since there's desire to keep it around. Quickbar stuff retained as well since ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [19:00:17] New patchset: Demon; "Completely remove support for ancient skins" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [19:00:32] New review: Demon; "And PS4 adds the requested release notes." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [19:02:00] New review: Matmarex; "This seems reasonable, but I'd really like to see at least one of the super-simple skins kept – if..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [19:03:06] New review: Matmarex; "Oh, and if there are some real issues with it, do point me at relevant bugs and I'll look at them." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [19:05:50] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed compatibility with PHP 5.4" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28698 [19:06:49] New review: Siebrand; "Max, I didn't feel like creating a bugzilla issue or fixing it myself, and I wanted to make sure it ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Listings] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27779 [19:07:39] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28698 [19:08:14] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Shift-Delete keyboard "cut" shortcut doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33080 (10Christian Williams) [19:09:23] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "getParamValue defaults to current page only if url undefined" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28700 [19:15:43] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28546 [19:15:52] New patchset: MaxSem; "Move Listings code into a separate file" [mediawiki/extensions/Listings] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28701 [19:15:52] New patchset: MaxSem; "Fix some localisation problems" [mediawiki/extensions/Listings] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28702 [19:16:09] 03(FIXED) Link to action=info in toolbox should have an ID - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41156 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [19:17:19] 03(WONTFIX) MobileFrontend should provide a way for the pages to display mobile-only content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32597 +comment (10Jon) [19:18:06] 03(mod) Making coordinates in an article bring up nearby view where available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36958 (10Jon) [19:18:40] 14(INVALID) Save content offline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32270 +comment (10Jon) [19:19:37] New review: MaxSem; "Fair enough, I've fixed some of them in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/28702/ and left a fixme f..." [mediawiki/extensions/Listings] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27779 [19:19:37] 06(LATER) Capture UA's of user switching in and out of mobile view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35525 +comment (10Jon) [19:20:04] 14(INVALID) Photo handling 2, optimize image file page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31933 +comment (10Jon) [19:20:16] New review: Matmarex; "Logic is sound, nitpicking inline." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28700 [19:21:17] New review: Matmarex; "I guess I should use -1 here, but this actually "looks good to me" ;)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28700 [19:22:20] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(bug 41211) Don't rely on referrer to detect post-edit" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28703 [19:22:21] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki mobile site has errant trademark symbol (™) in footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41141 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Jon) [19:22:27] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki mobile site has errant trademark symbol (™) in footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41141 +easy (10Jon) [19:24:37] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed test using asort on objects which makes php5.4 complain they cannot be converted to ints" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28704 [19:24:41] 03(WONTFIX) Auto-complete based on history too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31598 +comment (10Jon) [19:25:19] 14(INVALID) Bad network detection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35550 +comment (10Jon) [19:26:07] Dantman, can you tell me what methods replace these please? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/105921 [19:26:26] 03(mod) Capture UA's of user switching in and out of mobile view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35525 (10Diederik van Liere) [19:27:30] 14(INVALID) Tracking Bug for first release of Wikisource Android App - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39488 +comment (10Jon) [19:27:57] 14(INVALID) Please display the "Change Version" buttons on LEFT TOP of every screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30337 +comment (10Jon) [19:28:27] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Issue a warnings for cache problems in streamFile()." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28705 [19:28:27] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "getParamValue defaults to current page only if url undefined" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28700 [19:28:48] 03(mod) [PostEdit]: PostEdit doesn't work when referrer is deactivated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41211 +comment (10Steven Walling) [19:29:55] 04(REOPENED) Mobile version link should be closer to top of page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30337 summary; +comment (10Jon) [19:30:34] 14(INVALID) Photo handling 1, optimize to screen width - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31931 +comment (10Jon) [19:30:43] New review: Matmarex; "See inline. Thanks for the patches :)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28665 [19:30:46] New review: Matmarex; "See inline. Thanks for the patches :)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiEditor] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28664 [19:31:09] 14(INVALID) SMS / USSD gateway for SMS access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31614 +comment (10Jon) [19:31:31] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28705 [19:31:33] 14(INVALID) Google bookmarklet incompatibility with Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20160 +comment (10Jon) [19:31:53] 03(ASSIGNED) [PostEdit]: PostEdit doesn't work when referrer is deactivated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41211 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [19:32:07] 03(mod) WikiEditor interface overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40608 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:32:27] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Issue a warnings for cache problems in streamFile()." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28706 [19:32:36] Is it possible to reply to comments in gerrit? [19:32:38] 03(mod) Editing textarea overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40610 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:32:51] Apheori: sorta, just add new ones related to the same line [19:32:59] (i assume you mean inline comments) [19:33:21] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28706 [19:33:30] if you mean the general reviews, the just click "Review" and write your reply, it will appear at the bottom of the page [19:33:36] (yeah, gerrit sucks.) [19:34:11] Krenair: I guess they should be replaced by their own body, as they're one line long. I'm not authoritative on this, wait for Dantman's response, but just guessing [19:34:22] 14(INVALID) Mobile Moodbar, Feedback Dashboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32304 +comment (10Jon) [19:34:53] New ones? [19:35:15] 14(INVALID) Proofreading annotation on mobile and beyond - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32329 +comment (10Jon) [19:35:26] MatmaRex: With inline comments, there is a button for replying, but it doesn't appear to actually do anything. Is it just a fish? [19:35:31] Er, herring. [19:35:51] well, a new textbox should appear below the comments you're replying to [19:36:11] Can it be saved? I could find no way to save it. [19:36:35] Apheori: you need to click "review" on the main page of the commit and post a review (can be empty) [19:36:36] (yeah, gerrit sucks bad.) [19:36:40] Whaaaat. [19:36:43] (the interface is god-awful.) [19:36:51] yeah, seriously, you need to do that [19:36:57] o__o [19:37:00] i have no idea whoever though it's a good idea [19:37:11] Okay, screw that. [19:37:27] you get used to it :) [19:37:30] Especially since I have no idea what my password is anyway, can we just discuss matters here? [19:37:39] 03(mod) Indexation of non-indexed namespaces in mobile wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37954 +comment (10Jon) [19:38:02] Apheori: hardly anyone but me and the bots frequents this channel, most of the technical discussion happens in gerrit, bugzilla, or on the mailing lists [19:38:12] 14(INVALID) Narayam testing on mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32267 +comment (10Jon) [19:38:16] but feel free to ask whatever you wish to ask :) [19:38:23] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28364 [19:39:23] 14(WFM) Mobile redirect should happen after www.wikipedia.org -> en.wikipedia.org redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36601 +comment (10Jon) [19:41:07] Oh, I'm isarra. And you commented on something I submitted. [19:41:31] 03(mod) $wgExtraLanguageNames is used for sites instead of languages in WikiVoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41209 (10Andre Klapper) [19:41:36] 03(mod) wikivoyage migration (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41184 (10Andre Klapper) [19:41:36] 14(WFM) Wiktionary on mobile doesnt device detect and redirect to mobile version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36152 +comment (10Jon) [19:41:57] Apheori: ah, that certainly explains a lot :) [19:42:15] Sorry. [19:42:22] One day I will get a bouncer! [19:42:37] ;) [19:43:26] Anyway, see how none of the boxes line up with each other? This is why textarea width is an issue. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Bad_screenshot_of_editing_suckage.png [19:43:30] 03(WONTFIX) Need to properly detect Android 2.3 tablets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30256 +comment (10Jon) [19:44:05] andre__: have you considered adding needinfo state? [19:44:06] The insertion box is the full width. The grey box is the width of the WikiEditor interface. The textarea without wikieditor is another width entirely. [19:44:49] Sure, it's not an issue until projects start using boxes, but those are getting a lot more common these days... [19:45:39] 03(mod) Editing problems with wikied - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32755 (10Jon) [19:46:54] 03(mod) initialization of the Language object is very heavy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41103 +performance (10Andre Klapper) [19:47:08] Apheori: this looks slightly differently for me, textarea is aligned with the grey box at least [19:47:19] 03(mod) Subheadings do not show in dynamically loaded sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41192 +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper) [19:47:19] appkying your CSS, it becomes aligned with the white box instead [19:47:35] applying* [19:47:56] Apheori: the editing form is currently more complicated than it should be [19:48:09] Nikerabbit, yes, though maybe not as a state: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36064 [19:48:20] it's first constructed in the HTML, then wikieditor applies its own stuff, and then this enwiki-custon grey box is applied [19:48:37] and whatever you do, it should work correctly in all three of these states [19:48:43] oh, and there's also the no-js state [19:48:49] basically this all sucks bad :( [19:51:10] Isarra: i think this grey box is defined in the vector extension [19:51:24] or maybe somewhere else, it's not exaclty documented anywhere, i think :/ [19:52:56] 03(mod) Display more meaningful message in case of adding a site-link to a page which is linked to from another item already - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41212 (10Andre Klapper) [19:52:58] 03(mod) Interface messages needing rewording or documentation and other issues with existing messages (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38638 (10Andre Klapper) [19:53:12] 14(INVALID) New namespaces for it.wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41221 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [19:54:37] Apheori: (see above, i forgot your nick again and talked to Isarra :) ) [19:55:00] 03(mod) mwdumper java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Invalid contributor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18328 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [19:55:07] Apheori: the grey box misalignment is caused by "margin-right: -2px;" that is applied to #editpage-bottom for apparently no reason [19:57:37] MatmaRex: The white box? [19:59:09] The reason the editpage-bottom has the margin-right:-2px; is because the wikieditor extension box is two pixels two wide because it is a float. [19:59:22] It's a workaround for that. [19:59:51] Whereas if we just fix the core textarea and the wikieditor box, such workarounds will be unnecessary. [19:59:52] 03(mod) Chunked upload fails with internal_api_error_UploadStashFileNotFoundException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36587 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [20:00:05] The question is what is the best way to do that. [20:04:04] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Remove a bunch of trailing spaces and unneeded newlines" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28718 [20:05:35] * Apheori pokes MatmaRex. [20:05:47] Apheori: thinkin'. [20:05:49] Apheori: i'd say that "#wpTextbox1{border:0; padding:0}" would be a good start [20:05:53] 03(mod) Text contained in the head element is displayed in Japanese old mobile phone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35969 (10Jon) [20:06:01] since the wikieditor ui already provides the borders [20:06:18] The wikieditor ui already has that. Its width issue is caused by the fact that it is a float. [20:06:22] 03(mod) Varnish cluster 503's should be logged to Graphite/Ganglia/etc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36131 (10Jon) [20:06:31] or maybe w could apply the box-sizing only to #wpTextbox1 [20:06:50] (and #wpTextbox2, or whatever the other one shown during edit conflicts is called) [20:06:50] That only solves the non-extension box. [20:07:18] 03(mod) Wikimedia-hosted OpenStreetMap (OSM) / mapnik tileservers wanted for mobile usage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33980 (10Jon) [20:07:19] .wikiEditor-ui textarea looks good, too [20:07:34] 03(mod) Redirect causing problems for domains that do not have .m (e.g. www.* portals) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40687 (10Jon) [20:07:36] The wikieditor textarea doesn't have any width issyes. [20:07:39] i just don't like defining such invasive styles on plain element selactors [20:07:50] elements that could be used anywhere [20:07:54] 03(mod) Please create a component for gerrit-stats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41148 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:07:56] e.g. dynamically generated boxes [20:08:00] 03(mod) Missing mobile DNS entries for numerous *.wikimedia.org wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38799 (10Jon) [20:08:30] (for ex., we have a sidebar link in pl.wiki that, when clicked, pops up an interface to report factual mistakes in the articles) [20:08:33] 03(mod) Redirector.c should read redirect regex from config, config should be managed by puppet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38617 (10Jon) [20:09:07] New review: VitaliyFilippov; "Yeah, no real need, but I think it's anyway better to remove the usage of a deprecated method." [mediawiki/extensions/SlimboxThumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28602 [20:09:28] 03(mod) Mobile view fails for two-level domain names like multilingual wikisource (http://wikisource.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36002 +comment (10Jon) [20:10:05] Please explain why it is invasive. I'm not really familiar with this definition; Dantman just put it forward as an alternative to using a container and while the reasons he provided didn't make a whole lot of sense, it seemed a lot neater and more straight-forward. [20:10:34] because this style will apply to every textarea that ever appears on any wiki page, in any part of the interface [20:10:48] and box-sizing changes the basic way margins, padding and border works [20:10:56] btw Apheori thank you for working on skins/ui [20:10:56] Ah, so just apply it to the specific textarea? That would make sense. [20:10:56] and suddenly adding it will break stuff [20:10:59] Aye. [20:11:02] yes, that's what i;m suggesting [20:11:18] i don't think "invasive" is a real term, i just made that up [20:11:25] Oh, aiight. [20:11:55] * sumanah also approves of "aiight" usage [20:12:03] * Apheori hugs sumanah. [20:12:11] * sumanah hugs Apheori back :) [20:12:41] 03(FIXED) Indexation of non-indexed namespaces in mobile wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37954 +comment (10Max Semenik) [20:12:46] 03(mod) Please create a component for gerrit-stats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41148 +comment (10Diederik van Liere) [20:13:22] 03(mod) Mobile view fails for two-level domain names like multilingual wikisource (http://wikisource.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36002 +shell (10Andre Klapper) [20:13:23] robla: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41208 "Maximum execution time exceeded: Levenshtein too slow we guess... " is this a blocker for Monday's deployment to Meta? [20:13:26] andre__: ^^ [20:13:26] New patchset: Reedy; "Bug 41122 - Catchable fatal error: Object of class ParserOptions could not be converted to string" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28730 [20:13:40] 03(mod) Catchable fatal error: Object of class ParserOptions could not be converted to string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41122 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:13:54] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28730 [20:13:55] MatmaRex: And yeah, I can fix that. What do you know about browser-specific implementations of this box-sizing thing, though? Is Dantman just being difficult for the sake of difficult, or was the fact that he neglected to mention them in the first place merely an oversight on his part in light of his ego stroking? [20:14:26] And now I'm being an arse as well... er... pretend I didn't say that last bit. [20:14:26] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Remove a bunch of trailing spaces and unneeded newlines" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28731 [20:14:55] Apheori: yeah, we try to Assume Good Faith around here, thx for taking that back [20:15:20] Apheori: with him this could be both ;) [20:15:35] (no offense intended, Daniel, if you're lurking :) ) [20:15:35] sumanah: not sure, but probably not [20:15:50] Daniel F is one of the several skins people around here -- MatmaRex and Trevor are two more [20:15:50] we can keep it in mind for the next deploy [20:16:05] andre__: ^ re bug 41208 [20:16:05] So what do you think, should it be added? Is there anything else missing or what have you? [20:16:51] New patchset: Reedy; "Bug 41122 - Catchable fatal error: Object of class ParserOptions could not be converted to string" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28732 [20:16:51] Apheori: i'd have to look into it, your changes with the fixes (vendor prefixes, more specific selector for the primary textbox) seems okay [20:17:05] shouldn't break anything at least, and does seem to fix some things :) [20:17:14] Mmkay, thanks. [20:17:42] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Looks good, seems to work." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28673 [20:17:43] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28673 [20:17:52] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28732 [20:18:05] 04(REOPENED) Bad network detection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35550 +comment (10Liangent) [20:18:53] 03(mod) Books rendered without content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40900 +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper) [20:19:37] * Apheori pokes MatmaRex again. [20:19:41] Bug in parentheses? [20:20:22] AaronSchulz: Did you recently get UW merge rights? [20:20:42] Apheori: yes? [20:20:45] I have core rights, which also give extension rights [20:20:45] (just wondering :)) [20:20:53] so it's not new [20:21:01] Oh, K. Thanks for merging that! [20:21:06] Apheori: oh, that [20:21:30] Apheori: that's not necessary, i guess, i just like it, also gerrit autolinks it [20:21:44] Ah. [20:21:51] Pity it doesn't fit. [20:21:56] A lot of the time, anyway. [20:22:13] marktraceur: btw do you know how to check whether someone has the relevant Gerrit privs? [20:22:24] Mmkay, let's see if I can use this thing from my laptop... [20:22:26] Apheori: i think even fewer people care about the 62 chars limits than this bug-in-title thing ;) [20:22:44] sumanah: Basically you have to go into the admin interface and check their group memberships. It's kinda tedious. [20:22:49] Why does it say to do it, then? [20:22:51] Why is this so weird? [20:22:55] What is going on? [20:22:59] Where are my pants? [20:23:10] because some dinosaurs still use e-mail clients that break stuff when your lines exceed 80 characters [20:23:18] and gerrit mails you *a lot* [20:23:18] marktraceur: it would be useful to you to know the https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/11 list [20:23:20] 03(mod) Bad network detection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35550 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:23:28] Email clients? O_o [20:23:35] and it uses some idiotic format like "Commit message: ", stealing your 18 chars [20:23:42] yeah [20:24:03] * Apheori dies. [20:24:03] marktraceur: believe me, I know this stuff - I admin it every day. [20:24:03] basically, i suggest disregarding it and going for something slightly saner, like 80 chars :) [20:24:22] sumanah: I'm relatively familiar with it, but I don't think I'd seen AaronSchulz merge in UW before, which is why I asked [20:24:23] a commit message that is too long to be displayed somewhere is better than a meaningless one :) [20:24:33] $( "table" ).tablesorter(); [20:24:33] TypeError: Object [object Object] has no method 'tablesorter' [20:24:33] what am I doing wonrg? [20:24:48] k [20:25:04] marktraceur: I think I've merged things before [20:25:04] just not common [20:25:05] 03(mod) Bad network detection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35550 +comment (10Liangent) [20:25:12] Nikerabbit: where is this happening?... [20:25:13] Nikerabbit: it seems tablesorter module hasn't been loaded [20:25:23] ^ that would seems like the obvious thing [20:25:28] would seem* [20:25:32] 03(mod) Please create a component for gerrit-stats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41148 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:26:04] it sure is [20:26:32] I'm using JS console in http://dev.translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:LanguageStats [20:26:32] Apheori: basically, [[WP:Ignore all rules]], if you do something very wrong, somebody will come and correct you ;) [20:26:32] 03(mod) Bad network detection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35550 +comment (10Jon) [20:26:51] MatmaRex: Some people around here are mean and scary, though. [20:27:02] Nikerabbit: WFM [20:27:16] Not that folks on enwp aren't... [20:28:07] MatmaRex: why do I need to load the module, if it is clearly running on that page, I see the arrows and get the endSort.tablesorter event [20:28:30] marktraceur: I still don't get the message breakage in uw, sometimes doing a hard refresh a bunch of times manually fixed it for a while [20:28:31] Apheori: eh, not really, i'd just say that there are a few big egos - worse, they are often justified :) [20:28:34] ah [20:28:36] Nikerabbit: as i said, $('table').tablesorter() works for me [20:28:38] I think I got it [20:28:46] without anything, i just opened the console [20:28:59] MatmaRex: the module is not there at document.ready I guess [20:29:13] oh, of course it might not be [20:29:27] use mw.loader.using every tme if you need any module [20:29:34] * Apheori hugs MatmaRex. [20:29:49] Nikerabbit: as in, mw.loader.using('jquery.tablesorter', function(){console.log('asd')}) [20:30:03] the callback will be fired after the module is loaded [20:30:12] Apheori: :) [20:30:32] AaronSchulz: There are a lot of magical fairy bugs in UW, I sadly don't have time to hunt them right now [20:30:41] 03(NEW) HTTP/1.1 504 Gateway Time-out on http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/ when 'User-Agent: iPhone' is set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41224 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (liangent) [20:32:31] 04(REOPENED) Catchable fatal error: Object of class ParserOptions could not be converted to string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41122 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:33:27] 03(mod) HTTP/1.1 504 Gateway Time-out on http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/ when 'User-Agent: iPhone' is set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41224 (10Liangent) [20:34:12] 03(mod) Bad network detection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35550 +comment (10Liangent) [20:34:50] New patchset: MaxSem; "Fix some localisation problems" [mediawiki/extensions/Listings] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28702 [20:35:55] 03(mod) Bad network detection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35550 +comment (10Jon) [20:40:24] MatmaRex: yay it works now: http://dev.translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:LanguageStats#sortable:3=desc [20:40:40] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28286 [20:41:20] almost anyway [20:42:09] Nikerabbit: :) [20:42:17] 03(mod) Upgrade Wikimedia OTRS installation to the latest version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22622 +comment (10Philippe Beaudette) [20:42:45] 03(mod) Edittools buttons broken in liquid threads reply and new topic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41220 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:45:56] 03(mod) Short IDs for sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36348 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:46:15] 03(mod) mobile domains are using invalid SSL ceritficate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36126 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:47:10] MatmaRex: in http://dev.translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:LanguageStats#sortable:2=desc you can't reverse the direction [20:47:24] I think it's a bug that .tablesorter() is called twice on the table [20:48:25] hm, yeah, it doesn't work. but i'm not sure if it's a bug on tablesorter, of if you just shouldnt call it twice [20:48:36] or if* [20:48:51] (i'm away for a while, be back in 15 minutes) [20:49:19] MatmaRex: well, if I can't call it twice, how do I force sorting somehow? [20:51:20] 03(mod) Maximum execution time exceeded: Levenshtein too slow we guess... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41208 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [20:51:44] andre__: Any objection to moving that WildIdeas page to mediawiki.org? I think I can export/import it fairly easily. [20:52:16] i think you could use .hasClass('jquery-tablesorter') to see if tablesorter was applied to it already, and then select one of the headings somehow (maybe $('something something th:nth-child(N)') ), get the real DOM object from there and call .click() on it [20:52:20] but this feels... dirty. [20:53:11] Brooke, I also want to move it, but first after I've cleaned up / reorganized the Bug management related documentation (so I can find a nice place for it) [20:53:11] Nikerabbit: can you point me to the script you're testing / writing? [20:53:12] 14(WFM) mwdumper java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Invalid contributor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18328 +comment (10Bean49) [20:53:18] All right. [20:53:26] (afk, for real this time) [20:53:29] Brooke: ...which is another thing I hope to manage later today. Hopefully. :/ [20:53:35] Heh, no rush. [20:53:47] I just didn't want to comment and edit it when I'm the one of the few who can. [20:53:50] I thought that'd be unfair. [20:54:35] MatmaRex: http://www.jspaste.com/?id=431 [20:55:44] MatmaRex: I guess there is no way to wait until the normal tablesorter is applied... perhaps I should remove .sortable class and do it manually [20:58:33] 03(mod) Maximum execution time exceeded: Levenshtein too slow we guess... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41208 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:01:16] 03(mod) Please create a component for gerrit-stats in Analytics product - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41148 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:01:37] New patchset: Catrope; "Add ve.setProp()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28753 [21:01:37] New patchset: Catrope; "Do reference comparison in selectNodes() tests and fix test data" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28754 [21:03:05] 03(mod) article ratings display incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34895 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [21:04:49] 03(mod) article ratings display incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34895 (10Ryan Kaldari) [21:05:21] 03(NEW) Double quotes are turned into single quotes when the element is not accepted as HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41225 normal; Parsoid: General; (liangent) [21:05:40] New patchset: Robmoen; "Initial commit includes base extension for enabling Agora styles." [mediawiki/extensions/Agora] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28755 [21:05:46] 03(FIXED) Please create a component for gerrit-stats in Analytics product - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41148 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:07:21] New patchset: Robmoen; "Initial commit includes base extension for enabling Agora styles." [mediawiki/extensions/Agora] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28755 [21:08:55] 03(NEW) HTML entities inside tag attributes fail round-tripping - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41226 normal; Parsoid: General; (liangent) [21:09:39] 03(mod) Maximum execution time exceeded: Levenshtein too slow we guess... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41208 +comment (10Siebrand) [21:09:41] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Siebrand) [21:10:07] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Created README file for the file backend classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28606 [21:11:49] 03(NEW) HTML element-like stuff are expanded then broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41227 normal; Parsoid: General; (liangent) [21:13:02] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Created README file for the file backend classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28606 [21:13:58] New review: John Erling Blad; "Seems like this still works on my machine, at least as far as the tests goes." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28698 [21:16:09] New patchset: Aude; "bug 41122, provide missing params for content->getParserOutput()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28756 [21:18:50] New patchset: MaxSem; "Fix some localisation problems" [mediawiki/extensions/Listings] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28702 [21:19:51] 03(NEW) A single get escaped in round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41228 normal; Parsoid: General; (liangent) [21:20:23] 03(NEW) is missing in round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41229 normal; Parsoid: General; (liangent) [21:22:01] Something seems to be wrong with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor/ [21:22:07] 03(NEW) Unclosed comment get closed in round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41230 normal; Parsoid: General; (liangent) [21:22:37] it produces ugly messages (with unexpanded html entities) and downloading doesn't work [21:22:39] liangent: Is ^ about comments in a template? [21:23:03] liangent: And/or does a comment in a template that's unclosed round-trip right? [21:23:31] 03(mod) Varnish cluster 503's should disaply a better error page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36498 normal->15enhancement (10Jon) [21:23:38] marktraceur: "" [21:23:48] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 29266) Sort order of statstables is now included in the url" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28761 [21:23:50] or "" [21:24:30] liangent: Have you tried making a dummy template like {{opencomment}} on enwiki and including it in a roundtrip test? I'd be interested to see the result. [21:24:39] 03(FIXED) link to sort order for a translation stats page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29266 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [21:25:32] Unclosed comments are always eventually closed. [21:25:35] Sometimes by Tidy. [21:25:48] Brooke: In Parsoid? [21:25:52] On Wikipedia. [21:26:07] We don't allow users to disrupt the UI, so sanitation comes first, but then there's a Tidy round. [21:26:09] Brooke: We're chatting about bugs liangent is opening in Parsoid [21:26:11] In which crazy shit is fixed. [21:26:13] Right. [21:26:19] I was about to read the bug. :-) [21:26:38] marktraceur: I've never tried to round-trip a template call in _rtform [21:26:40] I wonder if Tidy will be deprecated in the world of the future. [21:29:11] Brooke: Almost certainly the Parsoid Future (TM) will exclude things like that [21:29:32] But it's more appropriately the Parsoid Far Future (TM) [21:30:46] New patchset: Kaldari; "Correcting object name in comments" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiLove] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28762 [21:30:47] marktraceur: have you tested {{opencomment}} [21:31:03] liangent: No, but I'm interested--let me do that now [21:31:08] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/WikiLove] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28762 [21:33:53] marktraceur: Well, but they've made a guarantee to retain direct wikimarkup editing, I believe. [21:34:35] If you can write a
, you can break the UI, heh. [21:34:39] Brooke: Yes, I suppose that would require Tidy. For far future, though, I can see an age where it's not necessary [21:34:50] We'll see! [21:34:58] Is there a live demo of VE to date? [21:34:58] Nikerabbit: i'm back. am i still needed? :) [21:35:15] Brooke: Yes, it's on MW.org [21:35:27] I wonder if it works with Monobook now. [21:35:29] Brooke: [[:mw:VisualEditor:Welcome]] [21:35:55] Nikerabbit: okay, i read thru the back log, looking at the script now [21:35:55] It's kind of silly how much that was messing me up. Not being able to use it while logged in... [21:35:55] MatmaRex: I added you as reviewer to my patchet [21:35:58] Right. [21:36:02] Still not edit tab. [21:36:03] MatmaRex: see it in gerrit [21:36:10] not --> no [21:36:24] I was hoping there was a dev version somewhere where this was fixed. [21:36:55] liangent: Open comment gets the comment closed automatically, and close comment shows up as plain text [21:37:00] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Test_comments [21:37:08] liangent: And apparently we don't do anything differently [21:37:23] Nikerabbit: looking. does it currently work or not? (did you manage to fix it?) [21:37:30] hi marktraceur! [21:37:36] i'm trying to run VE on my machine. [21:37:51] aharoni: Hi! [21:37:51] MatmaRex: yeah I think I solved it, at least it worked for me [21:37:54] aharoni: Having problems? :) [21:38:21] I have up-to-date Parsoid and VE, I have localsettings.js, I have Parsoid service running, but when I try to edit a page, I get a "timeout" error. [21:38:56] aharoni: I don't suppose you get any errors in your mw log or the parsoid service? [21:39:03] I do see a "starting parsing of VisualEditor:Test_edit" message in the console when I try to edit, but I get a timeout error in the browser. [21:39:18] Hm. [21:39:18] Nikerabbit: i don't have a local env running Translate, but i'll look and comment on gerrit :) [21:39:42] gwicke, does the issue from aharoni sound familiar? [21:39:42] I have $wgVisualEditorParsoidURL = 'http://localhost:8000/'; is LocalSettings.php. [21:40:11] Going to that URL gives the "Welcome to the alpha test web service for the Parsoid project" page. [21:40:22] marktraceur: nope [21:40:34] Hm. [21:40:40] Nikerabbit: oh, also [21:40:51] Nikerabbit: have you seen this PS to tablesorter? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/22562 [21:41:03] this adds some features you might want here [21:41:05] aharoni: I'm not sure where to start....do you think it's a Parsoid bug? [21:41:05] aharoni: So you're getting the error when? [21:41:06] aharoni: which is your api url? [21:41:18] (at least that's one good thing to come out of the wikidata mess!) [21:41:21] MatmaRex: yeah that's what I based it on [21:41:32] MatmaRex: which reminds me, I should check what it does on older versions [21:41:47] aharoni: the default for 'localhost' is /wiki/api.php IIRC, you might have to modify it from the example localsettings.js [21:42:07] gwicke, currently I have: "env.setInterwiki( 'localhost', 'http://localhost/wiki' );" [21:42:38] do I need to add "/api.php"? [21:42:38] ok, and your api is available at http://localhost/wiki/api.php? [21:42:47] no, just verify that it will work [21:43:04] yes, http://localhost/wiki/api.php works. [21:43:14] "but when I try to edit a page" <-- What does this mean? [21:43:18] ok, then that would not be the issue [21:43:31] I am not familiar with the VE defaults these days [21:43:31] You're editing via the API or via the UI? [21:43:38] And does the edit form load if via the UI? [21:43:45] me? UI. [21:43:50] Yes, you. [21:43:54] aharoni: can you play around in http://localhost:8000/? [21:44:06] define "play around" :) [21:44:14] http://localhost:8000/localhost/yourpage [21:45:02] The console says "starting parsing of Yourpage". [21:45:03] (replace yourpage with some existing page in your wiki) [21:45:12] Nikerabbit: ah, yes, i see now. [21:45:50] but i really dislike how you have to change the class and call .tablesorter yourself :/ there should be a public $.tablesorter.sort() function or something [21:45:55] aharoni: as in http://localhost:8000/localhost/Main_Page [21:46:00] gwicke, I replaced it with an existing page, and still: the browser just trying to load something, and doesn't load anything. [21:46:43] aharoni: anything in the Apache log for the API request? [21:47:08] MatmaRex: if someone develops such thing, I can use it [21:47:13] Nikerabbit: that looks like it should be pretty easy to do [21:47:42] now off to sleep [21:47:58] Nikerabbit: remind me tomorrow, or file a bug, and i'll have a go at this :) [21:48:07] now i'm off to sleep too [21:48:11] gwicke: "[Fri Oct 19 23:47:39 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: /var/www/w" [21:48:11] MatmaRex: I'm about to convert this to a wiki skin - http://test3.psiglenmere.com/ [21:48:28] what do you think of it? [21:48:52] aharoni: that sounds as if you used /w as your prefix [21:49:01] prefix? [21:49:15] MatmaRex: I'll try to remember [21:49:24] aharoni: in which file do you set the interwiki? [21:49:36] Nikerabbit: i'll make a note-to-self in a comment to that commit of yours :) [21:49:52] RudyValencia: looks nice, but i'm afraid you're about to learn that there is more to MW's skins than it looks [21:50:05] I know. There's a lot of PHP code to be finessed [21:50:11] RudyValencia: good luck :) i suggest taking monobook as a starting point [21:50:20] vector is kinda bloated and magical [21:50:35] I have done it before using Monobook as a reference [21:50:35] gwicke, Parsoid/js/api/localsettings.js [21:50:42] ah, very well then :) [21:50:50] aharoni: ok, that sounds sane [21:51:12] gwicke, and it just says: exports.setup = function( config, env ) { env.setInterwiki( 'localhost', 'http://localhost/wiki' ); }; [21:51:19] Dantman: Can you confirm that box-sizing works in IE 8? [21:51:19] (with line breaks) [21:51:27] great, I can't think of where to put the searchbox on that now [21:51:29] 03(mod) Indexing on private wikis seems to have halted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40846 +comment (10billinghurst) [21:51:36] RudyValencia: if you want to share it, you could probably make a skin-extension out of it [21:51:49] aharoni: let me try to reproduce that locally [21:51:58] probably might [21:51:59] not sure [21:52:03] RudyValencia: but i can;t really help with this, sumanah will surely be able to point you to relevant pages and/or people [21:52:18] The only thing I failed to plan for was a search box [21:52:19] you could look at the Erudite skin as an example [21:52:35] (i think) [21:52:42] OK, so probably in the footer? [21:52:53] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Erudite [21:53:11] it's pretty recent and probably full of Good Practices :) [21:53:33] haha, i don't know, i'm no designer [21:54:54] Guys, what versions of IE do we need to support? [21:55:00] Crap, nevermind, I need to go. [21:55:09] Apheori: i think 6 and up [21:55:10] at least mostly [21:55:24] as in, stuff works, might look slightly weird. [21:55:24] aharoni: looks like some recent reshuffling broke the config for the web api [21:55:39] gwicke, can you reproduce? [21:56:13] Hello there! I'm searching for an extension which could support, let's say, "dynamic intracitations" (useful when citing excerpts from transcriptions which could be revised anytime). It would work more or less this way: using tags delimiting the citation on the quoted page and to insert the quotation in another page, with a link to the quoted page. Does anyone know such extension, or know how [21:56:14] aharoni: yes [21:56:24] OK. Should I open a bug? [21:56:39] aharoni: not necessary, we'll fix it right away [21:56:43] Cool, thank you. [21:56:45] discussing it in #mediawiki-parsoid [21:57:45] New review: Matmarex; "Note to self: there should be a public function like $.tablesorter.sort() that would sort an array w..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28761 [21:58:06] 03(mod) Indexing on private wikis seems to have halted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40846 +shell (10Andre Klapper) [21:58:21] gustavo_cm: yeah, Cite. it's used on Wikipedias. [21:58:25] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update extension Vector to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28763 [21:59:21] I've written an extension for mediawiki, where can I get permission to upload a file? [21:59:25] MatmaRex: I know Cite, but does it automagically update citations? [22:00:36] 04(REOPENED) link to sort order for a translation stats page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29266 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [22:00:41] gustavo_cm: i don;t understand? [22:00:56] ah, i misread :( [22:01:05] it's too late here. [22:01:07] MatmaRex: No problems :-) [22:01:33] gustavo_cm: you would have to somehow include the page, using the regular inclusion syntax {{ }} [22:01:47] the page with definitions on the one with uses [22:05:38] 03(WONTFIX) User not logged in and viewing a page with inline query results in an error. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24858 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [22:06:20] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28763 [22:06:29] 03(WONTFIX) Double quotes are turned into single quotes when the element is not accepted as HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41225 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [22:06:54] MatmaRex: I didn't understand. Wouldn't {{page}} be a template? [22:07:48] gustavo_cm: you can transclude any page, e.g. {{Wikipedia:About}} or {{:Dog}} (note the colon at the beginning - this indicates main namespace) will both work [22:08:47] 03(mod) API returns the wrong values for 'total' and 'count' of ratings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30227 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [22:09:11] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added a way to add additional data to the ParserOutput and retrieve it" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28767 [22:11:10] 04(REOPENED) Double quotes are turned into single quotes when the element is not accepted as HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41225 +comment (10Liangent) [22:11:58] New review: Reedy; "Re-instated" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28689 [22:12:07] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28689 [22:13:54] MatmaRex: Thanks. According to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Transclusion , one could transclude the output of parser functions. Would that be the case -- an extension which would use parser extension tags? Not knowing MediaWiki enough, I don't know if it would be possible to make the parser add the text between the tags to some sort of database... [22:14:27] (_hypothethical_ ) [22:16:24] 03(mod) Indexing on private wikis seems to have halted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40846 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [22:16:53] marktraceur: Heh, it looks like Monobook support is fixed, but that particular page you linked doesn't work because it's protected, I guess. [22:17:05] gustavo_cm: well, it would probably be *possible* [22:17:06] And there's no "view source" tab in Monobook, I think. [22:17:13] VisualEditor:Welcome? [22:17:13] but not necessarily a good idea [22:17:19] Hmmm, no. [22:17:20] i don't really know enough of the internals to say :( [22:18:32] marktraceur: Never mind, it's an issue with personal CSS/JS, I think. [22:18:38] I'm missing some tabs. Weird... [22:18:47] Works fine logged out. [22:19:31] 03(mod) Double quotes are turned into single quotes when the element is not accepted as HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41225 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [22:20:23] MatmaRex: well, thanks anyway. I'm making those hypothesis because such mechanism would be very useful on wikis I'm leading with. One of their purpose is to provide technical means to transcript lectures, and given the somewhat "volatile" aspect of the text, it would be nice to have such a feature as an automagic update of quotations. [22:20:32] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28753 [22:20:46] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28692 [22:20:55] New patchset: Inez; "Make the debug tool (Dump all data) compatible with ve.AnnotationsSet (instead of array)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28769 [22:21:29] Well, this is a mystery for another time. [22:21:58] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28754 [22:22:04] gustavo_cm: you could also just store the transcripts (or anything) as templates [22:22:13] and transclude them when needed [22:22:41] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28769 [22:23:40] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Add additional specs + Parsoid-centric tests to keep Parsoid in line." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28770 [22:25:23] New patchset: Adamw; "CentralNotice Banner Bucketing [FR2012 626]" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23307 [22:26:53] gustavo_cm, you could make an extension registering which adds its texts into a db, yes [22:27:52] MatmaRex: That could be possible, (progressively) subdividing transcriptions in modules... I will register that idea, thanks. [22:30:06] New patchset: Bsitu; "(bug 33214) feedcontributions fails on showsizediff in miser" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28771 [22:30:08] 03(FIXED) Add Bugzilla components for Wikivoyage extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41111 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [22:32:02] 03(mod) Indexing on private wikis seems to have halted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40846 (10Nemo_bis) [22:32:17] New review: Bsitu; "Can we abandon this patch set, I make another commit in here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/28771/" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3328 [22:40:41] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Make use of nicer interface when available and route all set and get requests to the same methods" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28773 [22:43:19] 03(mod) Catchable fatal error: Object of class ParserOptions could not be converted to string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41122 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [22:49:06] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Add additional specs + Parsoid-centric tests to keep Parsoid in line." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28770 [22:50:41] New patchset: CSteipp; "Point to correct GeoMap Dir" [mediawiki/extensions/MapSources] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28774 [22:52:43] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated Google Charts param defs" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28775 [22:53:53] New review: MarkAHershberger; "Thanks for asking me to review. Looks good, but, I learned a lot, therefore someone else should def..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28761 [22:55:26] New review: Spage; "Fine, enjoy my review comment :-)" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28703 [22:58:07] 03(FIXED) MediaWiki:Articlefeedbackv5-error-abuse prevents localisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38591 (10Matthias Mullie) [22:58:10] New review: Spage; "Fine, enjoy my review comment :-)" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28703 [22:58:11] New patchset: CSteipp; "Point to correct GeoMap Dir" [mediawiki/extensions/MapSources] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28774 [22:59:14] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated chart format param defs" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28776 [23:01:33] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Removed htmlTagName and htmlAttributes from hash" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28777 [23:03:48] New review: CSteipp; "Short term fix for beta, mlitn +1" [mediawiki/extensions/MapSources] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28774 [23:03:48] Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/extensions/MapSources] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28774 [23:04:35] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Make use of nicer interface when available and route all set and get requests to the same methods" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28773 [23:07:08] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "Can be submitted when MW change https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/28773/ is getting merged." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28773 [23:10:14] 03(mod) mw.notification Usability Improvements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40307 +comment (10TMg) [23:10:30] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated process format param defs" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28778 [23:14:41] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated slideshow format param defs" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28779 [23:16:21] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Minor cleanup" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28780 [23:18:21] New patchset: Reedy; "A few more for bug 41122" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28781 [23:22:26] 03(NEW) [PostEdit] Invisible element with high z-index accidentally blocks links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41231 normal; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; (mr.heat) [23:22:56] 03(mod) article ratings display incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34895 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [23:24:35] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28781 [23:26:27] New patchset: Reedy; "A few more for bug 41122" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28783 [23:26:37] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28783 [23:28:41] New patchset: Reedy; "Update SwiftCloudFiles to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28784 [23:28:55] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28784 [23:29:17] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated deprecated parameter definitions" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28785 [23:33:25] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28603 [23:34:54] 03(NEW) [PostEdit] Popup is displayed again when using the back button in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41232 normal; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; (mr.heat) [23:35:12] 03(mod) Catchable fatal error: Object of class ParserOptions could not be converted to string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41122 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [23:35:13] 03(mod) [PostEdit] Popup is displayed again when using the back button in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41232 (10TMg) [23:35:58] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28777 [23:37:06] New patchset: Catrope; "Add parentOuterRange to selectNodes() output" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28787 [23:42:56] 03(mod) [PostEdit] Popup is displayed again when using the back button in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41232 +comment (10TMg) [23:44:01] 03(mod) [PostEdit]: PostEdit doesn't work when referrer is deactivated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41211 +comment (10TMg) [23:46:22] 03(WONTFIX) VisualEditor: Using page movement keys when focus is not in edit area still triggers movement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38007 +comment (10Christian Williams) [23:51:03] New patchset: CSteipp; "Import from CreditSource repo" [mediawiki/extensions/CreditsSource] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28651 [23:52:44] New patchset: Adamw; "CentralNotice Banner Bucketing [FR2012 626]" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23307 [23:53:28] New review: Krinkle; "These are all approved master changes. I would merge them myself (as we do usually), but since there..." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28157 [23:53:44] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/CreditsSource] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28651 [23:53:57] 14(WFM) VisualEditor: Mouse selection very unreliable in Internet Explorer 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37850 +comment (10Christian Williams) [23:54:20] New patchset: Adamw; "Skip the banner list loading request" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28235 [23:55:30] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Context menu appears in the wrong place in IE10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41233 normal; VisualEditor: User Interface; (orbit) [23:58:40] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28157