[00:02:21] Krinkle: thanks [00:02:41] Well, I messed with jenkins. [00:03:02] When you clone a job, apparently until you save the new settings it silently already created the job with the original configuration of the clone source. [00:03:22] So while I was editing what appeared to be an unsaved job configuration, it was already running and causing jobs to fail [00:03:48] I love how completely inconsistent different queries in the API are. [00:04:00] Always keeps one guessing. [00:04:33] New review: Daniel Friesen; "Uhhh... last I checked Chrome has a UI now, Safari has worked around it's bug by dropping the valida..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23995 [00:18:23] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Fixing Pre-Annotations" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33834 [00:22:31] New patchset: Aude; "Add daemon scripts for pollforchanges and job runner" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34240 [00:27:01] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Added undo-before-apply for new link annotations" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33842 [00:30:28] New review: Ori.livneh; "After several rounds of robust unit testing, this change is finally ready to go live." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34229 [00:30:29] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34229 [00:37:07] 03(mod) Landscape mode no longer works in latest version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41791 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [00:43:17] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Remove TODO comments for completed stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34241 [00:44:04] New review: Ori.livneh; "Self-plus-twoing comment change." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34241 [00:44:04] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34241 [00:44:23] 03(mod) $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges should not send e-mail to user who made the edit. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33880 +comment (10Michael Jennings) [00:46:08] 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10MZMcBride) [00:46:47] Brooke for Bugzilla admin [00:48:56] New patchset: Spage; "Use new ext.eventLogging module name" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34242 [00:50:33] New review: Spage; "openTasks works on my local instance." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34242 [00:50:33] Change merged: Spage; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34242 [00:52:53] Could anyone explain to me how to insert with these? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_access#Wrapper_functions [00:53:03] What's $a? [00:53:07] 03(FIXED) Special:ExtensionDistributor gives 404 error page when downloading from master - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42271 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:57:44] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Always apply inspected annotations to the right range" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34244 [00:57:44] New patchset: GWicke; "Test non-ASCII pseudo-tags" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34245 [01:05:38] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Cleanup var statements" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34246 [01:07:56] 03(mod) Job queue improvements contain unannounced schema changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41100 +comment (10Terry Chay) [01:08:03] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34246 [01:09:12] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Fixing Pre-Annotations" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33834 [01:10:08] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Added undo-before-apply for new link annotations" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33842 [01:10:29] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33842 [01:11:04] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33834 [01:13:42] New patchset: Katie Horn; "Grooming common mistakes in valid CA postal codes to make the AVS checks on GC's end happier, and cut down on false fraud detection." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34247 [01:16:53] Change merged: Adamw; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34247 [01:20:33] 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to a member function msg() on a non-object at Preferences.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41337 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [01:23:51] 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [01:33:55] 03(RESOLVED) Server should return a 410 HTTP status code for deleted pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12345 (10MZMcBride) [01:34:36] andre__: You don't seem to have addresses why keywords are restricted to Bugzilla admins. [01:34:43] And I don't really understand that whiteboard feature. [01:34:52] Any more than I understand any whiteboard that's a single line tall. [01:35:07] Like it was designed for a circus creature. [01:36:20] New patchset: Mwalker; "Remove OrderID Check and Pass CTID to Amazon" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34248 [01:36:24] Brooke, I didn't answer everything, yes. [01:36:32] Brooke, if you want tagging, use the whiteboard. [01:36:33] Heh. [01:36:38] Is it actual tagging? [01:36:50] you can enter whatever you want in the whiteboard [01:37:08] I use it e.g. for "aklapper-moreinfo" to mark what I'll close in a few weeks if there's no response from the reporter [01:37:30] "We need a tagging system." "Use this really bad system that wasn't designed for tagging called whiteboard"? [01:37:30] Keywords by design are more restricted - only available if an admin has set them up. [01:37:46] But they're individual units within the same field. [01:37:53] The whiteboard seems like a big blob. [01:37:55] yes. what's the issue with it again? [01:37:56] Is that right? [01:37:59] yes [01:38:06] Blobs aren't really helpful for making tags. [01:38:07] If you want a tagging feature that works like you want it, write it. ;) [01:38:15] That's how Bugzilla is. [01:38:26] Bugzilla is extensible, I imagine. [01:38:32] Well, I know for sure that it is. [01:38:36] There might be an extension. [01:38:41] But I'm not sure why one is needed. [01:38:46] It already has a tagging system. [01:38:53] It's just unduly restricted. [01:38:59] but it seems it's too restrictive for you :) [01:39:04] it's the design. [01:39:12] you can challenge that of course. [01:39:16] but it is how it is. [01:39:43] So an extension would just disable the isUser('admin') check somewhere? [01:39:55] I have no idea. [01:40:07] Useful. [01:40:14] plus I don't want a billion of keywords that nobody can remember, and everybody will use his or her own wording again. [01:40:18] same chaos as usual. [01:40:18] I don't really care how Bugzilla works. [01:40:25] There aren't an infinite number of projects to track. [01:40:25] me neither as long as it works for most people. [01:40:51] Billions of keywords is kind of silly. [01:41:03] seeing Mozilla Bugzilla and how people use "dupme" and "dupeme" whiteboard entries: I don't like random tagging. [01:41:06] But that is a reason you use a proper keywords input instead of a whiteboard. [01:41:10] So that you have things like auto-completion. [01:41:25] This particular bug isn't about random tagging. [01:41:35] The suckiness of Bugzilla's tagging system is tangential. [01:41:38] if you are lucky and random terms begin with the same letters, sure [01:41:53] feel free to discuss that upstream with Mozilla Bugzilla developers. [01:42:04] There are better uses of my time. [01:42:06] I currently don't see a problem with keywords being restrictive as you can use the whiteboard [01:42:14] The whiteboard isn't the same thing. [01:42:25] not sure yet why blobs aren't helpful for making tags, could you explain? [01:42:52] There's no structure to them. [01:42:54] They're blobs. [01:42:56] 03(NEW) API: Call to a member function getFullURL() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42274 normal; MediaWiki: API; (sam) [01:43:02] and what structure do you think of? [01:43:05] Have you ever seen the movie Blob? [01:43:10] nope [01:43:16] New patchset: Mwalker; "Remove OrderID Check and Pass CTID to Amazon" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34248 [01:43:16] Well, imagine a big blob. [01:43:20] keywords have structure. that's why they are restrictive. [01:43:23] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] [FileBackend] Added support for custom file headers." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34249 [01:43:23] Now imagine trying to match it against another big blob. [01:43:25] It's annoying. [01:43:29] Because they're both big blobs. [01:43:43] New review: Aaron Schulz; "WIP (taking ownership on this)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29769 [01:43:46] The only reason that the restrictiveness becomes relevant is that I can't just add the keywords myself. [01:43:47] "it's annoying" is not really an argument. what's the concrete disadvantage? [01:43:51] 03(mod) API: Call to a member function getFullURL() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42274 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [01:43:51] A Bugzilla admin needs to add them. [01:44:02] yeah. that's good. because I still want to find things. [01:44:09] Change abandoned: Mwalker; "Done with a different patch more intelligently." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33664 [01:44:19] andre__: You're asking what the advantage to not using a blob system for tagging is? [01:44:41] Brooke, no. I ask what the concrete disadvantage of the whiteboard is. [01:44:57] It isn't structured. [01:45:00] I already said that. [01:45:15] and you still haven't said which advantage "structured" brings. [01:45:24] Being able to query it? [01:45:25] come up with a *concrete* example, not abstract concepts. [01:45:26] 03(mod) API: Call to a member function getFullURL() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42274 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [01:45:35] of course you can query the whiteboard. have you even tried? [01:45:36] What about this is abstract? [01:45:44] your missing example. [01:45:44] It's a blob. [01:45:49] no problem per se. [01:46:00] If I put "Wikipedia is great" into the whtieboard, is that okay? [01:46:05] whiteboard [01:46:07] why shouldn't it be? [01:46:28] then you can search for Wikipedia, for is, and for great. and for all three you get matches. Yay! [01:46:29] If I put "Wikipedia, Wiktionary" into the whiteboard, is that okay? [01:46:43] sure. why not? it's a whiteboard. it isn't structured. ;) [01:47:01] Then how do I distinguish one as part of a sentence and one as a tag? [01:47:04] however I recommend using one word only... [01:47:10] yeah, valid point [01:47:21] tags should be words only. [01:47:22] Oh, so it's unstructured minus the one-word suggestion? :-) [01:47:28] :-) Yes [01:47:30] Words are what whiteboards are made of. [01:47:41] and you can use as many words as you want. [01:48:09] Yes, but given that there are thousands of bugs and I want to tag a lof of them, using paragraphs probably isn't a great idea. [01:48:25] lot * [01:48:47] to summarize: I like not having billions of keywords and everybody using his/her own wording, to find nothing in the end, except for what you yourself have tagged. [01:48:57] and for your private tagging, there's the whiteboard. [01:49:05] The whiteboard is per-user? [01:49:13] nope, it's global. [01:49:30] So it's private in what sense of the word private? [01:49:54] oh true, replace "private" by "personal" then. Sorry, I'm misleading. [01:50:12] It isn't tagging if it's a big blob. [01:50:14] Change merged: Katie Horn; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34248 [01:50:40] Then it's not tagging, but blobbing. Works for me too. [01:50:54] It may work for you, but it doesn't resolve the bug. [01:51:37] Brooke, no it doesn't, but I never stated it would :) [01:52:31] Wonderful. [01:53:26] You're welcome :) [01:53:42] 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10MZMcBride) [01:54:04] I forgive you. [01:55:03] New patchset: Catrope; "Always apply inspected annotations to the right range" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34244 [01:56:12] 03(mod) Parsoid: General round-tripping tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39567 (10Gabriel Wicke) [01:58:10] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34244 [01:59:24] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Clicking link toolbar button with zero-length selection makes UI go crazy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42275 normal; VisualEditor: User Interface; (roan.kattouw) [02:01:21] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Zero-length selection in link should show inspector icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42276 normal; VisualEditor: User Interface; (roan.kattouw) [02:01:34] New patchset: Kaldari; "Redoing the notification icons and changing some formatting" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34250 [02:02:36] 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [02:08:48] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: First character in empty document behaves strangely in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42277 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; (roan.kattouw) [02:10:16] 03(WONTFIX) Parsoid: round-trip unexpanded templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37910 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [02:11:20] Would the script to make the vector skin autoadjust for screen resolution cause the bodycontent to be mispositioned with js off? [02:11:31] Unless it's some other div. It's hard to check with js off. [02:11:39] The big one with all the stuff, anyhow. [02:14:57] New review: Katie Horn; "Found a few extra UL tags that didn't get whacked." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34227 [02:16:17] Isarra: It's not a script, it's pure CSS [02:17:13] 03(FIXED) Parsoid: round-trip expanded templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37911 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [02:18:56] How do you make css based on screen size? [02:19:06] But in that case it doesn't work. [02:19:09] 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10MZMcBride) [02:19:31] Isarra: media queries and transitions [02:19:45] Isarra: Look up "responsive design". [02:20:03] If I could look things up, I could look at the code. [02:20:15] * RoanKattouw looks up the code [02:20:16] You're doing research only via IRC these days? [02:20:26] IRC is the only thing responding anymore in real time. [02:20:29] Heh, Roan is going to enable you. [02:20:30] skins/vector/screen-hd.css [02:20:33] Even my bloody terminals are lagging out. [02:20:44] Perhaps you need a new computer. [02:20:46] I thought HTTP requests are coming back quickly too :) [02:20:50] No, really? [02:20:56] Perhaps you'd like to get me one? [02:21:04] 'vector/screen-hd.css' => array( 'media' => 'screen and (min-width: 982px)' ), [02:21:19] I made a typo in a Bugzilla comment. [02:21:21] Rage. [02:21:25] I guess my browser is too slow to use that media stuff. [02:21:29] So that makes it so screen-hd.css is only applied when displaying on something that 1) is a screen and 2) is at least 982px wide [02:21:36] But it's loaded always [02:21:42] screen-hd.css is pretty plain [02:21:46] It fails to load half the time. [02:21:54] At all. [02:22:26] It's quite annoying because then I have to reload and when it takes this long to do it in the first place, having to do it again is just urgh. [02:22:35] The main stylesheet has rules like body.vector-animateLayout #mw-panel { transition: padding-left 250ms; } [02:22:59] Monobook. [02:23:03] And then the HD stylesheet has #mw-panel { padding-left: 0.5em; } [02:23:05] I should just set everything to monobook. [02:23:25] switch to nostalgia :) [02:23:35] I want usable. [02:24:03] 03(mod) Make domas' pageviews data available in semi-publicly queryable database format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42259 +comment (10Emw) [02:24:04] I am using it most of the time, thank you [02:24:04] RoanKattouw: I would find that utterly awesome if I could poke it. [02:24:13] As it is this just plain sucks. [02:24:31] I don't quite know what you're problem is but I think it's unlikely that it's a bug with the high-res stylesheet [02:24:41] hi there, does anyone have the abality to restore a page on the mediawiki site? [02:24:48] Unless resizing the window consistently makes it appear and go away when you cross a certain threshold [02:24:55] From the sound of it, the problem is just that my computer is too slow for this newfangled stuff. [02:24:58] Chiyo: On mediawiki.org? [02:25:01] I doubt it [02:25:05] yea RoanKattouw [02:25:12] Chiyo: Which page? [02:25:25] [[Manual:Short URL/wiki/Page title -- no root access cpanel]] [02:25:29] A 250ms transition shouldn't be too bad. And it only kicks in when resizing [02:25:43] New review: Subramanya Sastry; "Please add another test for parse of "" -- this is related to the fix and is a ASCII ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34245 [02:26:13] It doesn't kick in at all on this thing most of the time. [02:26:18] Did once. [02:26:40] Which was interesting, but since it wouldn't happen again I can't really base anything on it. [02:27:15] Hmm, that page was deleted by Dantman way back in March [02:27:54] 03(mod) Make domas' pageviews data available in semi-publicly queryable database format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42259 +comment (10Diederik van Liere) [02:27:55] i know, the current short url page doesnt have a "no root access" page [02:28:16] Chiyo: That's because the one official guide covers both root and no root [02:28:31] Have you tried using http://shorturls.redwerks.org ? [02:28:35] Chiyo: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Apache [02:29:24] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: After clicking out of link inspector, pressing enter removes wrong text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42278 normal; VisualEditor: User Interface; (roan.kattouw) [02:29:50] ahh ok, it could be made a bit more clearer [02:30:51] Chiyo: In the guide itself or on the index page? [02:31:14] New patchset: GWicke; "Test non-ASCII / URL pseudo-tags" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34245 [02:31:14] both [02:31:43] Not sure what to do on the guide. [02:31:58] ill edit it a little :P [02:32:31] Right now on the index page all pages on Apache that don't contain small bits of information not integrated into the official guide have been deleted so far. [02:33:14] The idea is to eventually write real guides for the rest of the webservers. Incorporate those last bits of info. [02:33:25] And then delete all those bad guides remaining. [02:33:35] ahh [02:33:37] So you'll only really have the links to the good guides. [02:33:50] ^_^ Then things will be nice and simple... [02:34:05] *cough*whenIactuallyhavetimetowritestufflikethat*cough* [02:34:06] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Pre-annotations code annotates characters with the empty set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42279 normal; VisualEditor: Data Model; (roan.kattouw) [02:35:55] Change merged: Subramanya Sastry; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34245 [02:36:01] 03(NEW) Enable WebFonts for Persian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42280 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (huji.huji) [02:45:25] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Zero-length selection in link should show inspector icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42276 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [02:46:21] 03(mod) Cannot parse the Fila PCN template from es.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39520 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [02:47:20] 03(mod) Cannot parse the Fila PCN template from es.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39520 (10Gabriel Wicke) [02:47:20] 03(mod) Parsoid: round-trip templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37872 (10Gabriel Wicke) [02:47:54] New patchset: Pgehres; "Updating the "more info links" to use a common template." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34227 [02:49:25] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Putting cursor immediately before link should display inspector icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42281 normal; VisualEditor: User Interface; (roan.kattouw) [02:51:45] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Fix for new handling of #set_internal_recurring_event" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34252 [02:52:17] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34252 [02:59:11] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Link inspector should edit existing annotation rather than creating new one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42282 normal; VisualEditor: User Interface; (roan.kattouw) [03:00:09] New patchset: Catrope; "(bug 42140) Don't force spaces to underscores in internal links" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34253 [03:01:50] 03(FIXED) VisualEditor: Internal page links touched by VisualEditor contain underscores - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42140 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [03:09:34] 03(mod) Abstract out nesting fixup strategies for the token collector: noinclude / includeonly etc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40898 (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:13:14] 03(ASSIGNED) Abstract out nesting fixup strategies for the token collector: noinclude / includeonly etc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40898 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:15:06] 03(mod) Parsoid: Escape plaintext three-tildes ~~~ are expanded to signature unexpectedly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37841 (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:15:06] 03(mod) Parsoid: Tracking Sanitizer TODOs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39179 (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:17:07] 03(mod) Parsoid: Pre-save transform tracker bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39160 normal->15enhancement (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:19:09] 03(mod) Parsoid: Tracking Sanitizer TODOs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39179 (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:19:45] 03(mod) Parsoid: Escape plaintext three-tildes ~~~ are expanded to signature unexpectedly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37841 (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:22:28] New patchset: Pgehres; "Checking to see if $param is a string before attempting to make_safe()" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34254 [03:26:57] What is this? http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/annotated.html [03:27:13] It says svn. Does that make it a relic of another time? [03:29:01] * Jasper_Deng pokes Krenair [03:30:58] Isarra: looks up to date, at least partially. It's for 1.21alpha at least [03:31:25] Yay! [03:31:35] It... makes me happy. [03:36:29] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Clicking link toolbar button with zero-length selection makes UI go crazy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42275 (10James Forrester) [03:37:13] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Zero-length selection in link should show inspector icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42276 (10James Forrester) [03:37:35] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: First character in empty document behaves strangely in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42277 (10James Forrester) [03:39:20] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: After clicking out of link inspector, pressing enter removes wrong text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42278 (10James Forrester) [03:41:08] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Pre-annotations code annotates characters with the empty set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42279 (10James Forrester) [03:44:04] Hi all [03:45:38] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Putting cursor immediately before link should display inspector icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42281 (10James Forrester) [03:46:44] I just did an upgrade from 1.16 to 1.20.0. Issue is the my custom skin is broken after the upgrade to 1.20.0. When I switch back to default skins, the blog shows up fine. Any hint on troubleshooting skin issues? This was the skin before upgrade: http://pasteboard.co/Wes57OC.png . After upgrade >> http://pasteboard.co/WegWzIv.png [03:46:48] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Link inspector should edit existing annotation rather than creating new one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42282 (10James Forrester) [03:49:55] New patchset: Krinkle; "Reset to latest upstream mediawiki/core.git master state." [test/mediawiki/core2] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34256 [04:01:01] hi, I am trying to update a wiki page with a lot of text using the MediaWiki API. The requirements are unclear from the documentation. Does anyone in here have experience with the API? [04:01:59] This is the page I have been using: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Edit [04:03:52] Also - I can update the page using the querystring API + small amounts of text. I followes the section Large Texts but I could not get it to work. [04:04:21] Change merged: Krinkle; [test/mediawiki/core2] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34256 [04:04:32] New patchset: Catrope; "(bug 42124) Store comments in the meta-linmod" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34257 [04:05:12] globs: You don't have to use multipart if you don't want to [04:05:30] You can use urlencoded just fine, it's just inefficient (because of escaping bloat) [04:06:00] 03(FIXED) VisualEditor: Meta-fy comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42124 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [04:06:10] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Meta-fy comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42124 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [04:07:39] RoanKattouw: then will it be a good idea to switch the form on index.php?action=edit to enctype="multipart/form-data" with javascript when lots of data is submitted? [04:09:54] Depends on how you define "lots of data" [04:11:49] New patchset: Pgehres; "Making the JS email validation a little better at catching common mistakes." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34259 [04:12:04] Don't forget that switching to form-data means that every parameter gets it's own document with headers and a lot of overhead. [04:12:05] 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10Krinkle) [04:12:51] So form-data only makes sense if you use a moderate or few parameters and one or more of those will likely contain several kb of data. [04:15:12] Oh... and that several kb of data includes lots of data that would need to be escaped in urlencoded format. [04:15:23] RoanKattouw, I think the server i am uploading to has a limit of 8K characters in url [04:15:57] RoanKattouw, is there a comprehensive tutorial somewhere or an example other than the documentation I posted? [04:16:11] RoanKattouw, maybe an application that uses it that I can use as a reference? [04:17:04] globs: The API will accept query data from both the query string or a POST body of either urlencoded or multipart form-data format. [04:18:50] globs: You are using POST rather than GET, I hope? [04:19:03] You should put the parameters in the post data, not in the query string [04:19:10] You should be able to do this without using multipart/form-data [04:19:45] RoanKattouw, what is the URL when writing parameters to the body? [04:20:04] Same url just less query parameters [04:20:41] Dantman, api.php?action=edit&... what do I enter for text? [04:21:24] The stuff you would put in the query string just goes in the post body instead. [04:21:53] globs, let's back out a moment: what are you implementing this in? presumably you're not just drawing up URLs in your editor and pasting them in a browser window. [04:22:26] ori-l, I am using Java HttpClient to auto-publish to a wiki [04:23:57] ori-l, Dantman, RoanKattouw, I will be back in 10 min. [04:24:13] Can't wait. [04:24:28] globs: is it an option to use one of these ready-made clients? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_code#Java [04:24:46] Too slow. [04:25:31] Brooke, file a bug :) [04:25:45] About what? [04:25:53] Oh. [04:25:56] Clever boy. [04:26:30] too slow. [04:26:55] ori-l: Git review is your friend. [04:32:28] ;) or rather, your crutch. [04:33:39] "Face it... Gerrit just walked over to you and broke your leg then tried to keep you from suing by giving you `git review`" [04:36:47] apergos: got a moment? [04:39:43] New patchset: Spage; "Declare $wgEventLoggingModelsUri global in getScript()" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34260 [04:40:37] New review: Ori.livneh; "Good catch." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34260 [04:40:37] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34260 [04:43:10] New patchset: Catrope; "(bug 42119) Handle alienation in wrapping mode properly" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34261 [04:43:48] RoanKattouw, Dantman, ori-l - back, sorry bout that [04:44:13] 03(FIXED) VisualEditor: Converter should inline-alienate inline tags in wrapping mode even in the mw:unrecognized case - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42119 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [04:44:40] 03(mod) Selective Serialization: The Tracking Bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41948 (10Gabriel Wicke) [04:45:16] 03(mod) Minimize unnecessary nowiki tags around quote marks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39352 (10Gabriel Wicke) [04:45:34] so - I am using HttpClient (Java) to hack together a wiki updater. I want to use this updater in a cron to update a wiki page regularly. [04:46:20] TimStarling: whos a moderator on wikitech-l these days? [04:46:45] Wikitech-l list run by abigor at forgotten-beauty.com, innocentkiller at gmail.com [04:46:59] p858snake|werk: so, Chad's one. [04:47:15] I should probably get on that list at some point, or better yet, delegate that to Quim :) [04:47:30] 14(WFM) URL-encode non-ASCII characters in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41152 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [04:48:08] globs: what problem are you running into? [04:48:10] 03(mod) Sanitizer does not handle properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40671 (10Gabriel Wicke) [04:49:22] TimStarling: thanks for getting Score up to par. I asked Chris McMahon to take a look at it once you get it onto test2 [04:50:18] sumanah, I can't get multipart/form-data working correctly. I can't find anything in the documentation that stands out and the error code is "help"... [04:51:28] globs, paste your code? [04:51:44] ah, ok, ori-l is around. I was going to suggest the https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api list to globs [04:52:08] ori-l, god - I was hoping I wouldn't have to embarrass myself like that :) [04:52:09] i'm not sure what i'm more surprised by, the fact that he uses facebook or that it apparently works in a cli browser. [04:52:32] p858snake|werk: I hear you. [04:52:58] 20:24 globs: is it an option to use one of these ready-made clients? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_code#Java [04:53:38] 03(mod) Unclosed comment get closed in round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41230 normal->minor; +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [04:53:39] 03(mod) Selective Serialization: The Tracking Bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41948 (10Gabriel Wicke) [04:54:02] 03(mod) Unclosed comment get closed in round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41230 (10Gabriel Wicke) [04:54:02] 03(mod) Selective Serialization: The Tracking Bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41948 (10Gabriel Wicke) [04:58:09] ori-l, unfortunately I can't use them. [04:58:25] 03(ASSIGNED) is missing in round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41229 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [04:58:25] 03(mod) Parsoid: General round-tripping tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39567 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:03:48] 03(mod) VisualEditor: When editing a non-current revision of a page, alter the "Save page" button behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41865 (10James Forrester) [05:03:51] 03(FIXED) Parsoid fails with percent-encoded page names in [[ ]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40004 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:03:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: When "Error saving data to server: Unsuccessful request: error." the spinner for saving doesn't go away - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37837 (10James Forrester) [05:04:10] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "List" buttons causes whole list to be de-listed, or converted to other list type, when only part of it is selected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41929 (10James Forrester) [05:05:24] I reported a browser crashing issue on a mediawiki page in browser bugtracker. should I report it in mw bugtracker? [05:05:37] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Various actions that trigger retrieval of offsets throw uncaught exceptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40463 (10James Forrester) [05:06:21] I say yes, liangent, of course linking to the other bugtracker [05:06:32] 03(mod) A single get escaped in round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41228 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:06:32] 03(mod) Parsoid: Tracking Sanitizer TODOs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39179 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:06:50] 03(VERIFIED) Parsoid fails with percent-encoded page names in [[ ]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40004 (10Liangent) [05:12:01] hi chicocvenancio [05:12:37] 03(mod) HTML entities inside tag attributes fail round-tripping - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41226 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:12:38] 03(mod) Selective Serialization: The Tracking Bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41948 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:14:53] ori-l, still working on getting the code to you [05:15:01] having some problems with NX [05:16:25] 03(mod) HTML entities inside tag attributes fail round-tripping - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41226 +comment (10Liangent) [05:18:43] 03(NEW) Browser-crashing page produced by MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42283 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (liangent) [05:18:59] sumanah: reported. see above [05:19:04] Thank you [05:20:02] ori-l, http://nopaste.info/124517df65.html [05:20:30] 03(mod) Incorrect page is linked when page title contains a question mark - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41218 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:22:53] 03(mod) HTML entities inside tag attributes fail round-tripping - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41226 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:22:54] 03(mod) Parsoid: General round-tripping tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39567 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:23:22] ok, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Lead_our_development_process_as_a_volunteer_product_manager is coming together, this is good [05:23:45] 03(mod) Parsoid: Wikitext escaping tracker bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39254 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:24:24] 03(mod) A single get escaped in round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41228 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:24:25] 03(mod) Parsoid: Tracking Sanitizer TODOs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39179 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:24:25] 03(mod) Parsoid: Wikitext escaping tracker bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39254 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:26:21] 03(mod) Parsoid: Escape plaintext three-tildes ~~~ are expanded to signature unexpectedly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37841 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:26:24] 03(mod) Parsoid: Tracking Sanitizer TODOs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39179 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:26:24] 03(mod) Parsoid: Wikitext escaping tracker bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39254 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:30:36] 03(mod) Double quotes are turned into single quotes when the element is not accepted as HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41225 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:30:37] 03(mod) Parsoid: General round-tripping tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39567 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:32:00] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Unicode in links is percent-encoded when saved as wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41116 +comment (10Liangent) [05:32:16] 03(mod) Parsoid: Does not insert a necessary between and - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37846 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:32:20] 03(mod) Parsoid: General round-tripping tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39567 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:32:56] 03(mod) Indented table syntax emits extra newlines on round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42252 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:32:57] 03(mod) Parsoid: General round-tripping tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39567 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:33:26] 03(mod) Only omit auto-closed end tags from serialization if auto-closing context is unchanged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42248 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:33:28] 03(mod) Parsoid: General round-tripping tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39567 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:33:57] 03(mod) Recognize interwiki and language links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42160 normal->15enhancement (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:34:34] 03(mod) Recognize interwiki and language links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42160 +easy (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:35:57] ori-l, you there? [05:38:56] 03(mod) Fake perfect template expansion by calling into the PHP API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42126 normal->15enhancement (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:39:28] 03(mod) LinkHandler doesn't understand $wgCapitalLinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42122 normal->15enhancement (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:40:54] 03(mod) Braces in attributes break - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42109 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:41:33] 03(mod) Prevent newlines from bleeding out of template content in the ParagraphWrapper - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41718 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:42:14] 03(ASSIGNED) HTML element-like stuff are expanded then broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41227 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:42:14] 03(mod) Parsoid: General round-tripping tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39567 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:43:27] 03(ASSIGNED) Failed round-trip if HTML entities are in target of links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41217 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:43:27] 03(mod) Parsoid: General round-tripping tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39567 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:43:39] 03(mod) Failed round-trip if HTML entities are in target of links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41217 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:44:10] 03(mod) Parsoid: Semantically insignificant whitespace round-tripping tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39564 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:50:29] 03(mod) Incorrect page is linked when page title contains a question mark - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41218 +comment (10Liangent) [05:56:04] 03(ASSIGNED) Incorrect page is linked when page title contains a question mark - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41218 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:58:44] 03(mod) Cannot query for category pages in a specific category. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28078 +comment (10Pavel) [05:59:10] sumanah: now I do (was sleeping) [05:59:21] apergos: hi! I see that staying up pays :-) [05:59:31] ok, this is actually really good timing [05:59:41] apergos: there's a Gerrit project ownership reqest re mwdumper [05:59:55] great [05:59:55] Hope you slept well! [05:59:57] who wants it? [06:00:20] it is Bean49, of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:mediawiki/tools/mwdumper,n,z [06:00:39] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#Mwdumper [06:10:30] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Fix undefined variable" [mediawiki/extensions/Score] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34106 [06:10:37] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/extensions/Score] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34106 [06:15:20] * sumanah is glad to see Score inching closer to deployment :) [06:16:50] ah answering in channel, bean49's request seems fine to me, with the caveat that he is willing to stick around for a little while (to review or comment at least), not just merge his fixes and leave. [06:18:16] 03(mod) Make upload.wikimedia.org Cross Origin compatible (CORS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28700 +comment (10Faidon Liambotis) [06:19:52] apergos: would you mind putting that in a comment on the mediawiki.org page? or I can do it and attribute it to you [06:19:57] so there is an audit trail :) [06:20:37] ok just a sec [06:22:40] dne [06:26:35] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Added the Score extension" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34265 [06:27:23] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34265 [06:30:18] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Added the Score extension" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34266 [06:30:36] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34266 [06:38:36] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "I forgot one more place where this change needs to be taken into account: if properties are uses as ..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34211 [07:01:17] 03(mod) Make upload.wikimedia.org Cross Origin compatible (CORS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28700 +comment (10Faidon Liambotis) [07:05:31] 03(mod) Please set X-Content-Duration on OGG Video files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41304 +comment (10Faidon Liambotis) [07:08:19] 03(mod) Maximum execution time exceeded: Levenshtein too slow we guess... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41208 (10Niklas Laxström) [07:27:04] Weeeelll... that's just /nice/ of Adobe... [07:27:23] ...and I was actually starting to think better of them [07:32:36] 03(NEW) More abuse filters: - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42284 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [07:34:57] 03(mod) More abuse filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42284 summary (10Fabrice Florin) [07:38:21] Hello I am Navdeep bagga [07:39:08] I want to participate in outreach program for women [07:40:56] hashar: there are multiple critical blocker bugs preventing running of unit tests... what is your plan with those? [07:41:42] Yes I want to solve bug [07:42:13] please give me more detail how do i start my project [07:42:47] I found these bugs https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs [07:43:22] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33317 [07:44:19] Nikerabbit: I guess we want to triage them and find out if they are really critical / blocker [07:44:45] Nikerabbit: Jenkins is happy and the test do run on my suite. Are they bugs related to running the test suite on twn.net ? [07:45:35] hashar: 1) jenkins doesn't have many of the extensions enabled 2) prolly has different version of phpunit and php [07:45:55] imho anything that prevents core testsuite from finishing is blocker [07:46:15] ...we need to do something about our media query support [07:46:37] 03(mod) $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges should not send e-mail to user who made the edit. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33880 +comment (10Mark Clements (HappyDog)) [07:46:51] Nikerabbit: well if you find out that a specific global setting make the test fail, then the test need to be fixed up. [07:47:47] Nikerabbit: that is usually what make test fails. The second cause would be testing tests using a MySQL backend whereas Jenkins SQLite [07:48:18] Navdeep, hi! [07:48:53] Dantman: I merged some of your HTML5 patches earlier today :-] [07:49:04] Yup [07:49:12] ;) now for a more recent one [07:49:24] Navdeep, what are your skills, in which area are you interested? [07:50:14] hashar: This one was rather annoying https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30775/ [07:50:18] Dantman: there is another HTML5 related one I have downvoted: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23995/ which is about form validation attributes. [07:51:05] Dantman: added myself as a reviewer, will poke it whenever I get time to do so [07:51:56] Dantman: also while you are around, you might want to review your list of pending patches. Some of them are in need of love : https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/owner:daniel%2540nadir-seen-fire.com+is:open,n,z ;-) [07:53:04] commuting to coworking place … brb. [07:54:00] Bussy... half those need me to actually touch code [07:54:12] 03(FIXED) Create a static copy of a clean MediaWiki clone instead git-cloning locally - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39742 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:54:41] hashar: sorry, I thought you asked for reasons [07:55:29] Nikerabbit: and you are right that we need more extensions enabled [07:55:39] anyway riding my bicycle now, so I have to focus :-] [07:55:41] brb [07:56:04] Change abandoned: Nikerabbit; "Easier to make new one than fix merge conflicts and change the rest." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33306 [08:05:57] 03(mod) abusefilter-log-detail should not be restricted to sysops per default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42012 -shellpolicy +shell; +comment (10Nemo) [08:07:04] Morning all [08:07:36] could anyone tell me the best way to Add a wysiwyg editor to mediawiki please [08:08:48] ideally one that supports tables [08:10:11] New review: Katie Horn; "We should probably solve this more nicely at a point when we're not so pressed for time, but this sq..." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34254 [08:10:12] Change merged: Katie Horn; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34254 [08:14:30] Anyone ? [08:15:06] ImageMap requires content in multiple lines, but my pages come in via CSV import (so no linebreaks allowed in a field). Who knows a workaround for this? [08:18:30] wikipages in csv? haven't seen that before [08:19:11] very good for import/export of bulk data [08:20:17] Nikerabbit: a tool produces 700+ objects and 100+ images that I want to publish in a (semantic) wiki [08:21:48] 03(FIXED) Collection doesn't work at all on Indonesian (id.wikipedia): "ValueError: incomplete format in function system" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32806 +comment (10Ralf Schmitt) [08:23:09] 03(mod) Collection doesn't work at all on Indonesian (id.wikipedia): "ValueError: incomplete format in function system" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32806 +comment (10Ralf Schmitt) [08:23:46] 03(mod) Show system messages documentation on their wiki pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41578 (10Nemo) [08:23:56] bonsaikitten: not that good if it has that kind of problems [08:24:06] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 0 in /www/translatewiki.net/w/languages/Language.php on line 2965 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42225 (10Nemo) [08:24:40] Nikerabbit: I could say that about most aspects of MW - but it does kinda work sometimes [08:24:43] Nikerabbit: good in principle, somewhat hampered in practice [08:25:01] New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Fixed Bug 42032" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34211 [08:25:35] In a while, I'll try to have the tool export in XML instead of CSV, but for a big project with a deadline next week, I'm stuck with CSV :-/ [08:25:36] 03(mod) Min Nan Chinese - B�n-l�m-g� localisation on Taiwan. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31162 +comment (10Nemo) [08:26:09] 03(mod) Rusyn language needs a Latin variant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32676 +patch-need-review (10Nemo) [08:26:23] oh dear ... xml amuses me [08:26:31] * Saruman shudders [08:26:36] that sounds foreboding [08:27:06] bonsaikitten: do you have experience with that? [08:27:23] Saruman: I learned a lot from tools "exporting" "XML" [08:27:36] hehehe [08:27:41] the winner, by far, was a tool that couldn't re-import its own export format [08:27:54] at a cost of >100k$ that was mildly irritating [08:28:13] you are kind [08:28:26] I have access to the actual developers of this tool, as I started working in this particular company recently [08:29:09] working with one of the devs on the CSV export atm [08:29:59] though I can't fix the riddle of CSV breaking on hard returns, and ImageMap requiring them [08:31:30] 03(mod) Create {{ROOTPAGENAME}} to improve detection of page owner in user spaces, also usable in interface messages, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32703 +comment (10Nemo) [08:31:53] 03(mod) Turkish need lc / uc methods - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33643 15enhancement->normal (10Nemo) [08:32:04] Saruman: can you escape them at one of the import steps? [08:32:14] Saruman: potentially "\n" works [08:33:00] Saruman: What about the DataTransfer ext [08:33:02] ? [08:33:39] 03(mod) Add a way to use {{FORMATNUM}} to just do digit transform - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35753 (10Nemo) [08:34:02] Ftrott: using that one [08:34:18] 03(mod) Updates to ISO-codes for ku family dialects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37310 (10Nemo) [08:34:44] 03(UNCONFIRMED) Call to undefined method languages::getCode() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38339 (10Nemo) [08:35:05] Ftrott: since it uses standard PHP CSV libraries, I'm faced with the given that no hard breaks are allowed in a CSV field/record [08:35:19] (already talked to Yaron about that) [08:35:27] 03(mod) Language factory uses too simplistic caching - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38439 normal->15enhancement (10Nemo) [08:38:02] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "Ok, this was all a bit more complex than hoped for, since it affects a lot of our internal handling ..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34211 [08:39:16] 03(mod) Multiple plural forms dependent on the number - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38613 +comment (10Nemo) [08:42:08] 03(mod) Number of members doesn't appear in [[Special:WantedCategories]] with uselang hi on hi-wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38615 +comment (10Nemo) [08:42:46] 03(mod) Names.php includes RTL control characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38674 (10Nemo) [08:49:26] 03(mod) Cite errors add userlanguage messages into content (which uses content language) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39094 +comment (10Nemo) [08:49:28] 03(mod) Descriptionless files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32551 (10Nemo) [08:50:55] 03(WONTFIX) Add @font-face for the most important fonts that supports unicode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39481 +comment (10Nemo) [08:51:55] 14(DUP) Cite errors add userlanguage messages into content (which uses content language) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39094 +comment (10Nemo) [08:51:56] 03(mod) Extensions should have possibility to issue messages in the user interface language without touching content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39663 +comment (10Nemo) [08:52:29] 03(mod) Extensions should have possibility to issue messages in the user interface language without touching content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39663 (10Nemo) [08:53:18] 03(mod) Remove "�" from link trail in some cases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39835 normal->15enhancement (10Nemo) [08:53:27] 03(mod) Hard coded brackets in includes/specials/SpecialListusers.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39845 (10Nemo) [08:56:53] 03(mod) Time separator for Slovene - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40942 +comment (10Nemo) [08:57:31] 03(mod) [[Special:Version/Credits]]'s headings are not translateable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41552 (10Nemo) [09:03:12] 03(mod) $lang->formatDuration() does not convert to user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41470 (10Nemo) [09:03:14] 03(mod) Reimplement MediaWiki's info action (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38450 (10Nemo) [09:04:05] 03(mod) Create {{ROOTPAGENAME}} to improve detection of page owner in user spaces, also usable in interface messages, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32703 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [09:06:40] 03(mod) $lang->formatDuration() does not convert to user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41470 +i18n (10Raimond Spekking) [09:07:16] 03(mod) $lang->formatDuration() does not convert to user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41470 +easy (10Niklas Laxström) [09:12:54] 03(mod) [SIO][SCQ] Compound query for SIO when using custom namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38711 (10novacellus) [09:19:10] If there's a prize for ugliest wikitext hack, I now think I have a chance :-) [09:19:12] New patchset: Liangent; "Refactor ipboptions and Xml::listDropDown()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22699 [09:19:27] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Data types Resource Loader module" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34271 [09:19:27] New patchset: Henning Snater; "JavaScript factory for instantiating DataType objects" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34272 [09:19:59] 03(mod) Create {{ROOTPAGENAME}} to improve detection of page owner in user spaces, also usable in interface messages, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32703 +comment (10Nemo) [09:21:38] 03(mod) special page to list all items without label in a given language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41597 +comment (10Anja Jentzsch) [09:27:51] New patchset: Liangent; "Refactor ipboptions and Xml::listDropDown()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22699 [09:32:06] 03(mod) Enforce type discipline in Dataitem constructors; fail early on errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42058 +comment (10Markus Krötzsch) [09:36:16] 03(mod) $lang->formatDuration() does not convert to user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41470 +comment (10Liangent) [09:37:13] 03(NEW) Security: do not store anonymized fundraising data in Civi db - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42285 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ContributionReporting; (spam) [09:37:46] 03(FIXED) test wikibase on sqlite not only mysql - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41420 +comment (10Anja Jentzsch) [09:38:12] I am restarting Jenkins [09:38:40] 03(mod) $lang->formatDuration() does not convert to user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41470 (10Nemo) [09:41:21] 03(FIXED) Enable Narayam by default in or wiki projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31859 (10Niklas Laxström) [09:45:07] 03(mod) Enable Narayam by default in or wiki projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31859 +comment (10Nemo) [09:46:19] New patchset: Pastakhov; "Fix to bug 36314" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34274 [09:47:38] hey, do you think SSH key setup ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Tutorial#Set_Up_SSH_Keys_in_Gerrit ) is the same in Ubuntu as described in that tutorial? [09:49:53] 03(mod) Category case sensitivity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36314 +comment (10Pavel) [09:52:43] 03(mod) Fatal exception of type MWException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41360 +comment (10Mormegil) [09:52:58] 03(mod) Wikibase updater eats all memory in Jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41645 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [09:53:16] 03(mod) Interwiki map broken on wikitech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41786 +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn) [09:53:31] TK-999: yes. [09:54:02] Thanks! [09:54:04] TK-999: ssh works the same everywhere, unless you use a graphical client liked putty on weindows. [09:54:46] ok, and when I copy it, I won't need the "ssh-rsa" part, just the key itself? [10:00:13] 03(mod) Error handling information reduced: "Fatal exception of type MWException" is somewhat useless - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38095 +comment (10Mormegil) [10:00:43] 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10Nemo) [10:09:15] New patchset: Pginer; "Small text styling for 'disabled IME' text" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34275 [10:12:39] hi [10:18:39] 03(mod) MediaWiki core does not have a way to generate interwiki cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33395 +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn) [10:21:52] New review: Nischayn22; "Minor issue with spaces" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27255 [10:21:58] 03(mod) Add an OAI-PMH API for index page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38498 +comment (10Nemo) [10:24:31] 03(mod) Make AbuseFilter aware of Wikibase content models. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42064 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [10:25:09] 03(mod) Add an OAI-PMH API for index page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38498 +comment (10Nemo) [10:26:30] 03(mod) Make domas' pageviews data available in semi-publicly queryable database format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42259 (10Nemo) [10:31:02] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Updated Ruby gems" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34277 [10:38:12] 03(mod) Unknown dependency: jquery.uls in qunit tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41932 (10jeblad) [10:40:37] Can I lockdown a certian media wiki page with $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['Main_Page'] = true; [10:40:57] first set it as false for * [10:41:05] How do I do that. [10:42:07] Is protecting not an option? [10:42:14] yes Reading that now. [10:43:11] TK-999, so this is only done via web page not LocalSettings.php [10:43:47] Yes, you go to the page on the wiki and protect it [10:43:59] ok ,will do [10:49:03] 03(mod) Multiple plural forms dependent on the number - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38613 +comment (10MF-Warburg) [10:52:17] New patchset: Santhosh; "CSS fixes to match the style modifications of jquery.uls" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34123 [11:01:08] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41595) Maintenance script for pruning wb_changes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34279 [11:02:18] New patchset: Aude; "refactor changes metadata stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33319 [11:04:45] New patchset: Santhosh; "CSS fixes to match the style modifications of jquery.uls" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34123 [11:06:16] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34123 [11:12:37] New patchset: Aude; "Put update page stuff into a job subclass" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34099 [11:12:37] New patchset: Aude; "refactor changes metadata stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33319 [11:14:02] New patchset: Reedy; "Add Score to branched extensions" [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34282 [11:15:00] 03(NEW) API and audience - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42286 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad) [11:16:26] 03(mod) Enable WebFonts for Persian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42280 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [11:16:33] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34282 [11:23:51] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34275 [11:34:39] 03(NEW) Multiple windows by using trigger twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42287 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; (fomafix) [11:35:20] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34050 [11:38:29] 03(NEW) Categorize {{#babel}} on sv-wikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42288 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; (326374) [11:41:55] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Get rid of "span" deprecation warning" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34283 [11:41:55] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Get rid of "present?" deprecation warning" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34284 [11:43:25] I have have moved a MW 1.15.1 to a new Unix system which required importing the databases. After moving, the wiki appears to work fine, with the exception of the search index being broken. When performing a search the error is: [11:43:26] From within function "". MySQL returned error "145: Table './tuxedo/tuxedo_searchindex' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (localhost)". [11:43:28] A similar error occurs when running 'php updateSearchIndex.php' in maintinance/. [11:43:29] I'm not sure how to repair this. Could I safely drop the searchindex table within the phpMyAdmin interface? If so, would the search index safely regenerate itself? [11:44:39] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "flag for show/hide Wikidata entries on client recent changes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34285 [11:46:26] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "Some questions: see inline comments." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34274 [11:46:42] New patchset: J; "Bug 42017 - Fix TimedText diff view" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33327 [11:46:44] 03(mod) User preferences for viewing recent changes with external updates (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40568 (10tobias.gritschacher) [11:47:43] New patchset: Siebrand; "Re-add wikia" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34286 [11:47:55] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34286 [11:51:27] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "refactor changes metadata stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33319 [11:58:19] 03(mod) #ask does not work inside #ifeq or #switch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39132 +comment (10Pavel) [12:07:24] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Fix HTML on Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34287 [12:11:31] 03(mod) $lang->formatDuration() does not convert to user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41470 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [12:12:05] 03(NEW) More specific filtering for recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42289 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; (aude.wiki) [12:16:34] Change abandoned: Santhosh; "Will submit new patchset with correct fonts" [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32863 [12:17:51] New patchset: Siebrand; "No more need for checking Wikia exports" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34288 [12:18:57] 03(mod) $lang->formatDuration() does not convert to user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41470 +comment (10Liangent) [12:19:25] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34288 [12:20:02] New patchset: Liangent; "Always return something nice in Language::translateBlockExpiry()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34289 [12:21:27] 03(mod) $lang->formatDuration() does not convert to user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41470 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [12:25:28] 03(mod) $lang->formatDuration() does not convert to user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41470 +comment (10Liangent) [12:38:07] New patchset: Liangent; "Always return something nice in Language::translateBlockExpiry()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34289 [12:38:39] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41595) Maintenance script for pruning wb_changes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34279 [12:42:20] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41595) Maintenance script for pruning wb_changes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34279 [12:47:18] 03(NEW) Message definition missing on pages in custom namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42290 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (karin.jeppsson) [12:47:26] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41595) Maintenance script for pruning wb_changes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34279 [12:48:09] 03(mod) Message definition missing on pages in custom namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42290 +comment (10MWUser) [12:51:45] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fix quoting regexp to handle message like ... don't ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34290 [12:51:45] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Made more resilient, check if source file is missing" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34291 [12:58:28] New review: Siebrand; "Needs test." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34290 [12:59:13] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Avoid buildup of whitespace in pyffs" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34292 [13:01:12] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fix quoting regexp to handle message like ... don't ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34290 [13:04:09] 04(REOPENED) Wikidata SSL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41437 +comment (10Jimmy Xu) [13:07:42] 03(NEW) Can't save non-default content model with $wgContentHandlerUseDB disabled: model is wikitext , default for EtherpadLite:Pad.modals.initsocketfail.cause/fr is text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42291 normal; MediaWiki: ContentHandler; (niklas.laxstrom) [13:12:53] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34290 [13:13:46] New patchset: Siebrand; "Made more resilient, check if source file is missing" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34291 [13:16:39] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34291 [13:16:39] 03(mod) "New messages" on www.mediawiki.org don't explain why I get them / how they are related to my watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34111 summary (10Andre Klapper) [13:17:25] 03(mod) Can't save non-default content model with $wgContentHandlerUseDB disabled: model is wikitext , default for EtherpadLite:Pad.modals.initsocketfail.cause/fr is text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42291 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [13:19:22] 03(mod) Can't save non-default content model with $wgContentHandlerUseDB disabled: model is wikitext , default for EtherpadLite:Pad.modals.initsocketfail.cause/fr is text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42291 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [13:22:14] Hi! Is there any way to add a notice to the Special:Upload without changing any PHP code, for example via Special:AllMessages? [13:24:32] 03(mod) Time separator for Slovene - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40942 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:24:53] 03(mod) Make upload.wikimedia.org Cross Origin compatible (CORS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28700 (10Andre Klapper) [13:24:55] 03(mod) Use CORS for cross domain login - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20298 (10Andre Klapper) [13:25:21] How does one delete a log entry? [13:26:04] New review: Mwjames; "I didn't test it (because of missing test case) but the code looks valid." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34274 [13:30:53] New review: Anomie; "I'll take your word for it that it will be backported." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31290 [13:30:54] Change merged: Anomie; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31290 [13:36:05] aurimai: see MediaWiki:Uploadtext [13:36:58] Saruman, thanks! [13:37:30] Nischayn22: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:RevisionDelete maybe? [13:37:59] Saruman: tried that already but only learned to delete revisions not logs [13:38:27] trying to reproduce https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37714 [13:39:48] New review: Jens Ohlig; "Coolio." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34285 [13:39:49] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34285 [13:41:59] Saruman, now, I have changed the message, but it does not seem to have any effect. I've cleared the cache and reloaded the upload dialogue, but I still see the old message. [13:42:07] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Scenario: Navigate to Describe page" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34294 [13:42:26] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34287 [13:42:28] 03(FIXED) Make it possible to have differing default warning messages for differing filter groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37561 (10Matthias Mullie) [13:43:15] aurimai: funny [13:44:04] 03(mod) Enable WebFonts for Persian Wikipedia (fa.wp) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42280 +shell; summary (10Andre Klapper) [13:44:54] aurimai: I've tested in my sandbox, and I can change the upload notice without problem [13:45:53] New patchset: Anomie; "(bug 36053) Login returnto doesn't work if title isn't in the URI" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29729 [13:45:58] 03(mod) Category case sensitivity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36314 +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper) [13:46:01] 03(mod) $lang->formatDuration() does not convert to user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41470 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [13:46:18] New review: Anomie; "Looks good, rebased and merged." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29729 [13:46:20] Change merged: Anomie; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29729 [13:46:36] aurimai: Saruman: I think there is a special language cache. I had the problem in the past that it was really hard to get it to update. Don't know, there is probably a really easy procedure everybody is supposed to know. [13:46:51] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Confirmed." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34274 [13:46:51] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34274 [13:47:00] 03(FIXED) [Regression] Log in "returnto" feature forgets query parameters if no title parameter was specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36053 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [13:47:13] 03(mod) Testwiki doesn't show file duplicate info - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42237 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:47:15] Ftrott, do you remember what you did to update it? [13:47:40] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "needs rebase." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [13:47:45] aurimai: Alas not. [13:48:33] 03(FIXED) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:48:48] 03(mod) Can't save non-default content model with $wgContentHandlerUseDB disabled: model is wikitext , default for EtherpadLite:Pad.modals.initsocketfail.cause/fr is text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42291 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [13:49:03] I only remember that at the point it finally took hold I had already had done extensive modifications to my extension trying to get rid of some assumed bug. :/ [13:50:21] Ftrott: 'twas instantaneous on both my Dutch and English sandboxes; mebby differences in installation... [13:50:43] Saruman: I guess so. some config var set differently [13:50:52] 03(mod) Can't save non-default content model with $wgContentHandlerUseDB disabled: model is wikitext , default for EtherpadLite:Pad.modals.initsocketfail.cause/fr is text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42291 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [13:52:37] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Added more comments, improved ucfirst() call, removed support for SMW 1.5.2" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34295 [13:53:19] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Repo and group config for Etherpad lite" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34296 [13:53:29] 03(mod) Create {{SPACEUSER}} to improve detection of page owner in user spaces, also usable in interface messages, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32703 summary (10Gustronico) [13:53:29] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34295 [13:54:44] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34089 [13:57:49] saper: did you have chance to look at the script? [14:00:51] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Implemented better serialization for snaks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34297 [14:00:51] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improved serialization for Claim and Statement and the objects they are composed of" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34298 [14:00:51] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added extra tests for new serialization methods" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34299 [14:01:39] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Implemented serialization logic for Claim and Statement" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34114 [14:01:39] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Implemented better serialization for snaks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34297 [14:01:40] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improved serialization for Claim and Statement and the objects they are composed of" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34298 [14:01:40] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added extra tests for new serialization methods" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34299 [14:02:48] 03(ASSIGNED) Enable WebFonts for Persian Wikipedia (fa.wp) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42280 +i18n +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Dereckson) [14:03:19] Hello everyone, got a quick question about spam if anyones got a sec. :) [14:03:45] !ask | polymorph [14:03:45] polymorph: Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question. [14:04:06] 03(mod) Create {{SPACEUSER}} to improve detection of page owner in user spaces, also usable in interface messages, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32703 +comment (10Gustronico) [14:04:46] !spam | polymorph [14:04:46] polymorph: For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see and . [14:04:48] ;) [14:04:52] Well, my wiki has been 'raped' for a lack of a better word. 100k+ spam accounts, tons of articles, tons of fake pages, templates, etc. and I'm trying to find a simple way to clean up what has been done without accidentally messing up something legit. All the extensions like Nuke don't seem to offer an easy way to cleanup everything. [14:04:57] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "update privacy statement, making it clear that anons will be identified by their IP" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34301 [14:05:01] polymorph: sorry polymorph, go ahead :) [14:05:06] I've checked out said links. [14:05:22] I have the spam under control now, just need to start cleaning it up. [14:05:48] polymorph: nuke seems to be as close as you can get. i think there's also a way to delete everything that is newer than some given date... [14:05:59] not sure whether it was an option in nuke, or something else [14:06:29] Nuke doesn't seem viable for me given that each account is a random IP rather then a chunk of users being from the same IP. [14:06:50] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fixed missing comma bug" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34302 [14:07:01] polymorph: so, you want to reset your wiki back to how it was at a given date? [14:07:39] Wondering if there's an extension that lets you pick users from a list (checkbox or something) and delete all their content and their account. [14:07:43] Or similar to that. [14:07:52] i don't think there is [14:07:55] Since there are real edits from actual users between the spam. [14:08:00] i'd probably script somethign like that on the command line [14:08:03] 03(mod) Categorize {{#babel}} on sv-wikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42288 +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [14:08:32] Is there an easy way to do that for a single account? [14:09:06] I could build a list of users by hand if need be if there's a script to cleanup all the said users content and the account. [14:09:27] polymorph: that's what Nuke does, no? [14:10:32] Alright, does Nuke work from the cmd line too? [14:11:09] polymorph: just pipe the output of sql.php to deleteBatch.php [14:12:14] should be mysql command. it seems sql.php can't output a plain list..? [14:13:28] 14(DUP) More specific filtering for recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42289 +comment (10Anja Jentzsch) [14:13:31] 03(mod) Ability to filter recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41686 +comment (10Anja Jentzsch) [14:14:10] like `echo 'select page_title from recentchanges where rc_type=1 and rc_user_text in (...)' | mysql wikidb -N | php deleteBatch.php` [14:14:40] 04(REOPENED) More specific filtering for recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42289 (10Anja Jentzsch) [14:15:04] Another issue seems that Nuke doesn't work on old spam. [14:15:13] 04(REOPENED) MediaWiki needs moar NyanCat - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30112 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [14:15:26] New patchset: Aude; "Put update page stuff into a job subclass" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34099 [14:15:26] New patchset: Aude; "refactor changes metadata stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33319 [14:15:38] #profit [14:15:50] A user with over 400 pages of spam, but Nuke wont do anything for it. [14:17:03] polymorph: that's true [14:17:17] do you want to kill all pages they touched or created? [14:17:42] 03(WONTFIX) Create {{SPACEUSER}} to improve detection of page owner in user spaces, also usable in interface messages, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32703 +comment (10Nemo) [14:18:10] because it's not so easy to track old page creations [14:18:34] New review: Siebrand; "See comment. REPOCONF updates are missing." [translatewiki] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34296 [14:18:47] 03(mod) GENDER (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30443 (10Nemo) [14:18:47] 03(mod) Create {{SPACEUSER}} to improve detection of page owner in user spaces, also usable in interface messages, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32703 (10Nemo) [14:19:03] New patchset: Santhosh; "Add Gubbit font replacing Kedage for Kannada" [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34304 [14:19:05] Created would be best, since it doesn't seem like many of the bots messed with pages that were already made. [14:19:40] 03(FIXED) Add Gubbi and Navilu kannada fonts to WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41957 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [14:23:08] New review: Siebrand; "I18n/L10n looks fine to me." [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34301 [14:23:54] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34302 [14:23:55] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "please rebase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33319 [14:24:24] From my stats page: Registered users 105,911, and I'd say less then 50 are real accounts. [14:25:53] New review: Siebrand; "Font license file is missing?" [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34304 [14:28:55] 04(REOPENED) Feature-Request: Introduce a new Variable {{ROOTPAGENAME}} (similar to {{BASEPAGENAME}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6747 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [14:29:20] New review: Martsniez; "Comment on architectural level" [mediawiki/extensions/GWToolset] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31423 [14:32:17] 03(mod) Create {{SPACEUSER}} to improve detection of page owner in user spaces, also usable in interface messages, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32703 +comment (10Gustronico) [14:35:34] New review: Aude; "pollForChanges allows other units of time, such as hours. Perhaps we can allow that here also?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34279 [14:39:21] 03(mod) Create {{SPACEUSER}} to improve detection of page owner in user spaces, also usable in interface messages, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32703 +comment (10Nemo) [14:39:31] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Repo and group config for Etherpad lite" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34296 [14:39:55] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "fixed internal error on Special:SetLabel" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34306 [14:41:15] New review: Nikerabbit; "I think it can be enabled by default assuming that the messages are processed soon after this is mer..." [translatewiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34296 [14:41:36] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "fixed internal error on Special:SetLabel" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34306 [14:45:43] New review: Nikerabbit; "Having some tests for this would be nice." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34289 [14:48:34] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34296 [14:50:55] 03(mod) Enable WebFonts for Persian Wikipedia (fa.wp) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42280 +comment (10Siebrand) [14:56:36] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34306 [14:59:26] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Rename serializers to not include API" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34307 [14:59:27] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Got rid of ApiResult object in Serializers" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34308 [15:05:14] New patchset: Aude; "Put update page stuff into a job subclass" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34099 [15:09:05] 03(mod) Misplaced IME icon and selector in ULS language selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41738 +comment (10Nemo) [15:10:22] 03(mod) Misplaced IME icon and selector in ULS language selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41738 +comment (10Nemo) [15:12:06] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 41595) Maintenance script for pruning wb_changes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34279 [15:12:59] anyone knows what happened to the extension distributor? seems to be down [15:13:59] need to get 1.19 of confirmedit, but no idea how to get it from git - there are no release flags [15:14:08] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Make the generated image black instead of transparent" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34309 [15:14:09] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Create image of random size and color" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34310 [15:14:09] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Scenario: Navigate to Use page" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34311 [15:16:44] 03(mod) API: Call to a member function getFullURL() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42274 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [15:17:35] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Change getText to getContent" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34314 [15:18:41] New review: Cmcmahon; "refactoring UW test" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34311 [15:18:51] 03(mod) Introduce a new Variable {{ROOTPAGENAME}} (similar to {{BASEPAGENAME}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6747 summary (10Andre Klapper) [15:19:03] New review: Cmcmahon; "create random image for UW test" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34310 [15:19:36] New review: Cmcmahon; "hacking the image for UW test" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34309 [15:19:40] mike-snfjuo- As far as I can tell, it was never updated for the move to git, although there is a discussion currently underway on wikitech-l (see http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-November/064329.html ) [15:20:01] New review: Cmcmahon; "more UW test refactor" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34294 [15:20:36] New review: Cmcmahon; "stop using deprecated method, get rid of warning msg" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34284 [15:21:09] New review: Cmcmahon; "stop using deprecated method, get rid of warning msg" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34283 [15:21:28] New review: Cmcmahon; "maintenance" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34277 [15:21:28] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34311 [15:21:29] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34310 [15:21:29] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34309 [15:21:29] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34294 [15:21:29] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34284 [15:21:30] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34283 [15:21:30] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34277 [15:21:32] mike-snfjuo: ExtensionDistributor needs a lot of love :-) you could try just using the current version of ConfirmEdit? [15:21:56] or use the version of ConfirmEdit from May 2 2012 - that's when MediaWiki 1.19 was released https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.19 [15:21:58] 03(mod) Article Feedback CTA buttons are hard to read in Monobook skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41653 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [15:25:54] 03(mod) MediaWiki needs moar NyanCat - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30112 +comment (10Chad H.) [15:26:11] New review: John Erling Blad; "...ooops, I did it again.." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34279 [15:26:12] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34279 [15:26:46] New review: Aude; "spellchecker failed. typos!" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34279 [15:27:34] thanks all, I'll try the current - mediawiki is 1.5 but I need a feature which is not in CE1.5 but in CE 1.6, so I though I stay closer to the wiki version, but alas.. [15:28:44] still, one question: just some days ago, distributor still worked, and it showed the revision you would get. not possible to get this info (release revision) anymore? [15:28:46] 03(mod) is missing in round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41229 (10ssastry) [15:28:47] mike-snfjuo: 1.5?! that's prehistoric... [15:28:49] New patchset: Aude; "fix spelling in pruneChanges" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34316 [15:29:25] Danielk, I know. not my server, they use squeeze package.... [15:30:26] 03(NEW) Log Changes in product/component structure of Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42292 enhancement; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (aklapper) [15:30:28] 03(mod) Upgrade Bugzilla to 4.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33158 (10Andre Klapper) [15:31:03] mike-snfjuo: but 1.5 was in... 2005 or something? [15:31:19] it's soon old enough to buy you a drink! [15:31:32] anyway, sorry to mock your pain ;) [15:31:57] New review: Pastakhov; "I want to completely rewrite #ask parser, if I do have something that will work, I'll let you know" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34274 [15:31:57] ;) [15:32:13] are there any hooks to differentiate between a live edit and an edit queued into pending changes? [15:34:35] DanielK_WMDE_: sorry, I mean 1.15 which was 2009, still debian stable was not that long ago.. [15:34:57] ah! ok. 1.15 is old, but not THAT ancient. [15:35:08] yeah, my bad [15:35:14] hehe [15:36:06] in debian stable -> deprecated everywhere else [15:36:13] ... [15:37:11] New patchset: J; "add getStreamHeaders" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34317 [15:37:41] at least 1.19 will be in Debian stable soon [15:38:00] and we're actually working with them to support it :) [15:38:11] New review: J; "tested with local swift setup and" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34249 [15:40:20] New review: Hoo man; "Note: This is going to break compatibility to pre 1.21 MW, which is quite troublesome for an extensi..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34314 [15:41:14] hi, how could I use ercent changes as the start up or main page? [15:43:29] New review: Mwjames; "Maybe to avoid double work, you could fill us in what are planning since some changes already have h..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34274 [15:45:04] 03(FIXED) Jenkins: write new jobs for Zuul - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40684 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:45:46] saper: ? [15:48:16] 03(FIXED) write Zuul layout configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40688 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:48:49] hi csteipp [15:49:04] Hey Nikerabbit [15:49:41] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Added Selenium test for setting and changing an item label via Special:SetLabel" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34319 [15:49:42] 03(mod) Update Jenkins to LTS 1.480.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41973 summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:51:54] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Cleanup: deleted "Run UploadWizard" scenario" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34320 [15:54:18] It seems like in MW core, someone did mess up jQuery.ui. For example, events are renamed and not equivalent to what is documented for jQuery (e.g. $.fn.autocomplete's 'change' is 'changed' now). Does anyone know details about this? There must be some reason I guess. [15:56:37] do you know more about this Krinkle? The weird thing is that the comments on top of the file don't say anything about this. [15:56:47] context? [15:57:10] Danwe_WMDE: Eh, no. We just update jquery ui every now and then [15:57:15] I don't know about any breaking changes recently [15:57:34] New patchset: Liangent; "Always return something nice in Language::translateBlockExpiry()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34289 [15:57:38] what do jquery docs and/or release notes say about this, maybe try #jqueryui-dev , they'll know [15:58:50] Krinkle: So, we don't change anything on the jQuery code, like renaming events for some reason? [15:59:06] I have no idea what you're talking about. [15:59:18] Do you mean a function that renames it, or a commit that changed it? [16:01:11] 03(NEW) document Jenkins Job Builder - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42293 normal; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; (hashar) [16:01:30] 03(ASSIGNED) document Jenkins Job Builder - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42293 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [16:02:41] 03(mod) Browser-crashing page produced by MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42283 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:02:46] New review: Liangent; "Thanks for your suggestion of adding tests. It caught a bug in my code." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34289 [16:04:24] New patchset: Ilonakz; "(Bug 39444) Added warning, when user leaves collab mode" [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34323 [16:04:29] 03(mod) Firefox/Iceweasel 16.0.2 crashes on specific zh.wikipedia.org page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42283 summary (10Andre Klapper) [16:04:40] Krinkle: I was talking about a commit that would change it. But I didn't find any such thing, so I guess I am wrong and got just confused by different versions of jquery. [16:05:13] New patchset: Liangent; "Always return something nice in Language::translateBlockExpiry()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34289 [16:05:29] 03(mod) Error handling information reduced: "Fatal exception of type MWException" is somewhat useless - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38095 +comment (10Bawolff) [16:09:47] 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10Bawolff) [16:10:17] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Change getText to getContent" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34314 [16:10:29] 03(mod) Error handling information reduced: "Fatal exception of type MWException" is somewhat useless - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38095 +comment (10Liangent) [16:10:33] New review: Anomie; "Any idea how to write a unit test to check that something doesn't cause a PHP Fatal error, without t..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33730 [16:12:11] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "_element included in output" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34308 [16:14:10] New review: John Erling Blad; "@Hoo man, I think users of old code should download the correct version. We could although add addit..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34314 [16:15:03] ilonak: Hey, patchset! Let me see how you did, maybe I can test it right away [16:15:26] 03(mod) Error handling information reduced: "Fatal exception of type MWException" is somewhat useless - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38095 +comment (10Bawolff) [16:15:58] 03(mod) Make AbuseFilter aware of Wikibase content models. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42064 +comment (10Chris Steipp) [16:16:09] New patchset: Aude; "followup for Id094b743, add preference for showing wikidata edits in recent changes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34325 [16:18:45] 03(mod) Error handling information reduced: "Fatal exception of type MWException" is somewhat useless - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38095 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [16:18:46] New review: Cmcmahon; "not needed after refactor" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34320 [16:18:47] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34320 [16:20:41] New review: MarkTraceur; "Ilona," [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34323 [16:20:58] ^demon: could I get you to merge/review some of my code? specifically https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/13855/ [16:21:04] ilonak: Thanks so much for working on this, hopefully the review I gave you will make it more interesting [16:21:07] let me know what i need to do... [16:22:05] ilonak: But FYI I consider that a good intro task, so if you have a lot of important stuff to do we can explore this more if you get accepted, or if you'd like to continue working on this as a volunteer :) [16:22:26] 03(mod) Error handling information reduced: "Fatal exception of type MWException" is somewhat useless - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38095 +comment (10Nemo) [16:23:13] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Fix spjelling ejjoj" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34326 [16:24:14] New review: John Erling Blad; "...ooops I did it again.." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34326 [16:24:14] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34326 [16:24:32] 03(mod) Time separator for Slovene - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40942 +comment (10Dejan Papež) [16:25:34] boy, my phone is old [16:29:26] 03(mod) Backtrace should not include parameters as they may contain private data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7096 summary (10Nemo) [16:34:37] 03(mod) Firefox/Iceweasel 16.0.2 crashes on specific zh.wikipedia.org page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42283 +upstream (10Andre Klapper) [16:34:45] 03(mod) is missing in round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41229 +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper) [16:36:29] hello. Has anyone had success with converting their mediawiki site from a mysql database to a postgresql database? [16:36:45] I've made multiple attempts using different documentation provided on the mediawiki page [16:37:04] as well as using the mediawiki_mysql2postgres.pl script provided [16:37:25] but I continue to get errors while importing the data [16:37:53] errors are saying that the UTF8 characters are not valid [16:38:06] New review: Demon; "Couple of minor things, but all the major parts look good." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13855 [16:39:10] I've attempted to use recode as well to recode the UTF8 chars and am still not able to import the data [16:39:56] 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:40:13] I've followed http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:PostgreSQL#mySQL_to_PostgreSQL with no success [16:42:19] 14(WFM) Wikipedia Classic version "Search" field is unreadable because black highlighted on mobile smartphones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30338 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:43:00] 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10Nemo) [16:46:47] 03(mod) Time separator for Slovene - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40942 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:49:41] Change abandoned: Cmcmahon; "better version coming" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33726 [16:49:57] New patchset: Anomie; "(bug 41792) Fix Special:Preferences tabs in IE8 compatibility mode" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34329 [16:50:22] 03(mod) User Preferences do not allow me to go to any other tab in IE9 due to "compatibility mode" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41792 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [16:50:45] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 42064) Add a hook to AbuseFilter" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34330 [16:51:06] New patchset: Cmcmahon; "refactored for more scenarios, shorter steps, latest page object, dedicated AFT page" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34331 [16:55:01] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 42064) Change getText to getContent in AbuseFilter" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34314 [16:55:06] 03(FIXED) Add ogg Index to all ogg files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24988 +comment (10Michael Dale) [16:55:38] New patchset: GWicke; "Test un-closed noinclude, onlyinclude and includeonly tags" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34333 [16:56:11] 03(FIXED) Large numbers of instances on a page cause browsers to hang or crash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42071 +comment (10Michael Dale) [16:59:36] Change merged: Subramanya Sastry; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34333 [17:02:01] * Nikerabbit pokes saper again afraid he is going to bite [17:04:51] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34271 [17:05:32] qgil: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Platform_Engineering has most of what we discussed [17:05:43] qgil: in the form of status updates [17:06:20] sumanah, ok checking - and I'll add mine if there is anything missing [17:06:33] ok [17:06:46] Change merged: Zfilipin; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34331 [17:07:30] sumanah, two changes? https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Platform_Engineering&diff=607779&oldid=605841 [17:08:29] qgil: actually you want to look at the specific status updates of the activities [17:08:35] the ones from 11-20 [17:08:39] ok [17:09:11] in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Platform_Engineering#Quality_Assurance and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Platform_Engineering#Engineering_Community_Team [17:09:19] (reload to see your name added) :-) [17:11:02] should I? :) [17:11:08] why not :) [17:11:52] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34307 [17:12:04] qgil: chrismcmahon & zeljkof & Rob and I talked a little about how there ought to be a norm, eventually, that every new patchset ought to include tests. For many these will be unit tests, and for some there would also be Cucumber (UI) tests [17:14:05] qgil: You may have opinions on this issue and I welcome hearing them :) [17:14:15] 03(mod) Message definition missing on pages in custom namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42290 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [17:14:52] ilonak: Hey, how's it going? [17:15:40] Hi marktraceur, just looking from where to start [17:16:13] ilonak: So you figure you'll fix it up re: code review? [17:17:02] yes, I want to re-do this first task with alert, and then do next one with collab text pull [17:17:04] Hi ilonak , just wanted to wave hi :-) I'm Sumana Harihareswara, engineering community manager at the Wikimedia Foundation. Hope to help you with any questions you have [17:17:21] although I'm sure marktraceur has things in hand :) [17:17:46] sumanah: ilonak is working on EtherEditor, she has my full attention :P [17:17:55] Hi sumanah, thanks :) it is nice to join Wikimedia [17:17:57] oh wow! this is great [17:18:01] 03(mod) way to prioritize transcodes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41923 +comment (10Marco) [17:18:26] marktraceur: the other day Selena Deckelmann, who is mentoring for Mozilla, saw that we're working on Etherpad-related stuff and was very happy and excited [17:18:52] sumanah: She may know rhelmer, then, who is working on Etherpad stuff for Mozilla [17:18:59] 03(mod) Enable WebFonts for Persian Wikipedia (fa.wp) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42280 +comment (10Huji) [17:19:18] marktraceur: I think Selena was happy mainly because she is an Etherpad *user* [17:19:31] I guess that works too :) [17:19:37] and improvements in Etherpad-related stuff benefit the entire FLOSS community [17:20:03] sumanah: Perhaps ironically, if I had to do it again I wouldn't use Etherpad :) [17:20:13] in general, marktraceur, as a pointer: most people who are excited to see improvements in Etherpad do not actually develop for it or know any Etherpad developers. [17:20:30] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34114 [17:20:39] And it keeps surprising me how huge Mozilla is [17:20:54] 03(NEW) Reverting to an old version of a video file does not trigger new transcodes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42294 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (maic274) [17:20:57] sumanah: I meant, considering that rhelmer is at Mozilla and has been pretty active....oh, yeah, I sometimes forget that there are big organizations in the world :P [17:21:27] marktraceur: I look forward to seeing Ashish Dubey's work integrated into the Visual Editor and true realtime collaborative wiki editing emerging from that, and thus obsoleting EtherEditor :) [17:21:49] but who knows how long that will be! [17:21:52] * marktraceur agrees [17:22:04] so ilonak what EtherEditor-related stuff are you interested in working on? [17:22:25] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34289 [17:22:51] any git/gerrit ninjas here? [17:23:10] saper: ^ :) [17:23:16] I just started to familiarize with EtherEditor, and try to what marktraceur ask [17:23:25] zeljkof: I might be able to help, too, just ask :) [17:23:36] I pushed by mistake to debug branch at gerrit instead of to another remote [17:23:38] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/34331/ [17:23:52] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] [FileBackend] Added support for custom file headers." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34249 [17:23:55] marktraceur: thanks [17:24:03] and now gerrit says: "Change has been successfully pushed into branch debug." [17:24:04] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Fixed commit summary typo" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34249 [17:24:11] and of course that is not what I want [17:24:22] how can I now merge that change into master? [17:24:23] by the way marktraceur I have to leave for several hours, will contact you with my further questions [17:24:27] zeljkof: It looks like it's merged into master [17:24:39] ilonak: No problem, we're all around pretty much 16/7 anyway :) [17:24:47] OK, well, *I* am [17:25:01] 03(mod) Reverting to an old version of a video file does not trigger new transcodes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42294 (10Marco) [17:25:30] zeljkof: Oh, I see now. [17:25:32] marktraceur: as far as I can see, the commit is only in debug branch, not in master [17:25:52] zeljkof: You may need to submit again, sorry to say [17:26:04] marktraceur: but how? :) [17:26:21] marktraceur: when I checkout the change to a branch and do "git review" [17:26:29] it says there are no new changes [17:26:44] * marktraceur isn't sure why that's happening, there are clearly new changes [17:26:50] * Reedy blames marktraceur [17:26:56] hi Reedy [17:26:58] zeljkof: Try specifying the branch name with git-review [17:27:09] Hey [17:27:12] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34272 [17:27:28] zeljkof: 'git review master' [17:28:00] marktraceur: but master is always up to date with gerrit, right? [17:28:05] marktraceur: will try [17:28:25] zeljkof: I suspect your git review may have automatically changed the config, but that seems pretty ridiculous. [17:28:27] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34297 [17:29:14] marktraceur: if I make a trivial change to the branch and then submit it? [17:29:16] will try that [17:29:37] that could force the entire branch to be submitted for review again [17:30:13] zeljkof: I'm not totally sure....you could also try merging (not rebasing) the debug branch, then submitting the merge change to gerrit. [17:30:34] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Cleanup: whitespace" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34334 [17:31:30] Change merged: Zfilipin; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34334 [17:31:57] zeljkof: Nice, it worked [17:32:05] zeljkof: Not sure if that's intended, but good hack. [17:32:23] ^demon: You may want to help zeljkof figure out what in the world just happened [17:33:11] marktraceur, ^demon: it way my mistake (pushing to debug branch at gerrit), but then I could not figure out how to fix it :) [17:33:22] let me check if the change is in master now [17:34:08] marktraceur: wow, this whitespace cleanup trick worked :) [17:35:42] zeljkof: But your original change octually was for master. You didn't make a mistake that I saw.... [17:36:18] marktraceur: chrismcmahon made the original commit [17:36:38] Oh, hm. [17:36:59] marktraceur: I was trying to push it to a remote our cloudbees jenkins monitors, so I could run the tests there [17:37:21] but by mistake I pushed it to remote named gerrit, instead to remote named cloudbees [17:37:36] and that push caused gerrit to merge the change to debug branch [17:38:08] will try to be more careful in the future [17:38:34] zeljkof: No problem! [17:39:24] marktraceur: anyway, it is merged to master now, but I got scared for a moment that gerrit will refuse to merge it to master :) [17:39:50] New review: Hashar; "Jeroen, per above comment from Tim, I guess you can abandon this change." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28767 [17:40:44] New review: John Erling Blad; "Hm, it passed tests.." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34298 [17:42:07] I need Help now!!! [17:42:18] michaelwang: What's the problem? [17:43:18] i keeping getting baned on someone wiki? [17:43:33] michaelwang: Which wiki, and did they give a reason? [17:43:48] http://pokemonfireredevilgarywiki.tk/ [17:43:49] sumanah: not a ninja :) it's blood sweat and tears :) [17:43:55] Biddlebaddleboo [17:44:06] michaelwang: Was there a reason? [17:44:12] no [17:44:21] zeljkof: how is your gerrit? got better? need to un-do push to the debug branch? [17:44:34] bye [17:44:36] michaelwang: Well, we don't really police individual, independent wikis. So you need to take it up with the admin of that site, sadly there's nothing we can do [17:44:59] * marktraceur shrugs [17:52:16] 03(FIXED) Add EventLogging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41379 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:52:41] 03(mod) Missing extension page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41378 (10Andre Klapper) [17:54:27] New patchset: Cmcmahon; "better Given/When/Then statements for one test" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34336 [17:56:29] 03(mod) More abuse filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42284 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:58:42] 03(mod) [Vector] Middle click on - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42241 +patch-need-review; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:58:53] 03(mod) Icon for Wikipedia Mobile for iPhone 4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24457 (10Andre Klapper) [17:58:55] New patchset: Mwalker; "Initial Commit of Amazon Audit Script" [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34337 [17:59:21] 03(mod) Move public_reporting table to separate database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42285 summary (10Peter Gehres) [18:00:03] 03(mod) MediaWiki incorrectly detects OOXML types of files saved by OpenOffice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35607 +comment (10Platonides) [18:00:39] 03(WONTFIX) Searchbox fails on Windows Mobile 5/6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24170 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:00:50] 03(mod) Enable WebFonts for Persian Wikipedia (fa.wp) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42280 +comment (10Dereckson) [18:01:04] 14(WFM) Cyrillic characters displayed incorrectly while editing sr.wiki in Google Chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34055 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:01:15] !fast [18:01:15] [18:01:26] 14(WFM) flickering while vertical position in editbox is restored - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31404 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:01:38] 03(mod) Maximum execution time exceeded: Levenshtein too slow we guess... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41208 +performance (10Andre Klapper) [18:02:03] Change merged: Katie Horn; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34227 [18:02:03] Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34118 [18:02:58] 03(mod) Maximum execution time exceeded: Levenshtein too slow we guess... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41208 (10Andre Klapper) [18:03:00] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Andre Klapper) [18:03:46] 03(mod) MediaWiki needs moar NyanCat - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30112 +comment (10Platonides) [18:04:38] This may seem like an incredibly stupid question, but what safeguards can a project have in place for in case the entire server disappears? [18:05:47] hi Isarra - no, that's not a stupid question. [18:05:53] Isarra: Have you heard of "replication"? [18:06:31] Isarra: "the server" Is there just one doing everything? [18:06:32] Isarra: for example: the Wikimedia Foundation runs multiple data centers. The idea is that if one of those data centers gets wiped off the map by a hurricane, we can switch to the backup. [18:06:35] New patchset: Pgehres; "Adding templates for optional email address and address information for Ireland." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34238 [18:06:36] Don't you have to first have something in order to replicate it? [18:06:58] Isarra: Well, you could set up your endeavor so that, from the very start, there are mirrors, etc. [18:06:59] There was just one doing everything... which was, granted, next to nothing, but still. [18:07:11] Isarra: Maybe you could tell us a little more about what you are trying to achieve and what your situation is. :-) [18:07:20] dammit I am pinging more than you'd like, sorry [18:07:40] If I knew what I was doing... [18:07:49] Or trying to do... [18:08:05] OK. So, you have a website and you would like to make sure that you have some kind of safeguards in place, right? [18:08:39] Didn't really get that far. [18:08:40] regular sql dumps to another host might be a good start if your wiki(s) are not giant [18:08:43] (The answer will be different if it's not a website) [18:08:50] What if the wikis are giant? [18:08:59] Isarra: So, there is some kind of possible project, having to do with software, that you might someday engage in. Is that it? :) [18:09:04] if you have a copy of en wiki then you need some bigger hammers [18:09:12] It's not that big. [18:09:16] But... eh. [18:09:20] It's a wiki, yes. [18:09:33] how many reviisions, by order of magnitude? [18:09:38] We're building a wiki from the inside-out. [18:10:04] Only five million. [18:10:14] very manageable [18:10:32] If you have money, perhaps. >.< [18:10:37] So, there are a few different risks you might want to mitigate. [18:10:41] if you're using mysql, mysqdump is your friend here [18:10:58] Aye... [18:11:13] One of them is "what if the server goes down temporarily" and a different one is "what if the server disappears" [18:11:28] the answer depends on what you want the answer to be after "what if the server disappears" [18:11:50] if the answer is "I want to be able to bring the server back online & fully functional within minutes" that is expensive [18:11:57] But importing from dumps takes a very long time - is there a way to export such that it can be imported without... I dunno, I've been lead to understand mysql's straight import of dumps does some unecessary things. [18:12:05] you don't import from xml dumps [18:12:18] you use mysql to shove the dumped tables into an empty db [18:12:19] if you are willing to say "I want to have all the data but it's ok to lose the last week of data and it's ok if it takes 2 weeks to bring the server back online" then that is cheaper [18:12:22] this is *much* faster [18:12:45] Aye... [18:12:49] for us we have text revisions in external store in a bazillion different formats [18:12:57] various weird inconsistencies in the tables here and there [18:12:58] you set up a new server, you install MediaWiki, you get the dump imported as apergos mentions, and you are back. [18:13:12] ("import" here being used loosely by me) [18:13:21] log records with lots of different values in the fields depending when they were created [18:13:30] you won't have all that, so a stright mysqldump is the way [18:13:35] so, the answer depends on how much time, uptime, data, and money you are willing to lose [18:13:45] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] [FileBackend] Added support for custom file headers." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34249 [18:13:46] You know, we already did that once with another wiki... lost everyone's passwords because we didn't have the right dump on hand... you'd think I'd have learned from that. [18:14:01] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Documentation tweaks" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34249 [18:14:05] but here we're talking a baseline of 'dump once a day, compress, move off to another host or a hard disk' [18:14:14] Aye... [18:14:17] which is at least better than the 'do nothing' strategy [18:14:23] yeah, way better [18:14:26] more than that, you need to weigh costs and benefits. [18:14:40] also, just a word of warning: every so often you should test your ability to recover from backup [18:14:48] Heh. [18:14:52] Yeah. [18:14:56] New patchset: VitaliyFilippov; "Make old uploaded file revision contain their timestamps, not the timestamps of a following revision." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34338 [18:14:56] New patchset: VitaliyFilippov; "Quick monkey-patch for MW Bug 37209" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34339 [18:14:57] New patchset: VitaliyFilippov; "Totally improved MediaWiki Import/Export engine with conflict detection, advanced page selection for export and support for exporting file data over HTTP or inside the export file." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34340 [18:14:57] because you may run into snags, find that you weren't actually recording data or something [18:15:52] and look, Vitaliy has just committed a patchset having to do with import and export! [18:16:39] Or find that the export just omitted something very important, or... [18:16:44] YES. [18:16:56] Accounts? Who needs those? [18:17:02] * sumanah winces in sympathy [18:17:16] New patchset: Mwalker; "Initial Commit of Amazon Audit Script" [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34337 [18:17:18] My spouse lost nearly an entire website that way. [18:17:31] He thought he had backups. And then it turned out he didn't. [18:17:50] 03(mod) Greatly improved Export and Import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22881 +comment (10Vitaliy Filippov) [18:18:00] Oh dear. [18:18:26] Yeah. There is no punch in the gut quite like data loss. [18:20:25] 03(mod) LinkCache doesn't currently know about this title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37209 +comment (10Vitaliy Filippov) [18:20:53] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "Pastakhov, you are *very* welcome to rewrite the query parser. The current one is our second impleme..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34274 [18:22:14] 03(mod) GENDER (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30443 (10Nemo) [18:22:14] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Contributions should support gender - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40367 (10Nemo) [18:22:39] Why do I sometimes need to search for things twice for the search to bring up results? [18:22:44] On mww, that is. [18:23:00] 03(mod) thumb.php on Wikimedia Commons is serving broken images (thumbnail generation fails) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42047 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [18:23:16] Isarra: is it only sometimes? [18:23:22] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Got rid of ApiResult object in Serializers" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34308 [18:23:23] this might be a bug, in which case I want to know more [18:23:31] Only sometimes. [18:23:47] Search for something, no results, try again - results! [18:24:27] 03(mod) Misplaced IME icon and selector in ULS language selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41738 +comment (10Nemo) [18:25:03] Did you notice this starting to happen recently? [18:25:20] also, what OS/browser are you on, and do you have any particular JavaScript customizations on your site? [18:25:21] I dunno; I rarely use the search thing at all. [18:25:23] side, I mean [18:25:29] This is on mww, not my own. [18:25:36] 03(NEW) Cannot submit review form with enter from the reason field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42295 normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (umherirrender_de.wp) [18:26:16] We are working on some bugs in wmf's search... you may be hitting one of those. [18:26:35] Aye, that may well be. [18:26:38] Thank you, squishy. [18:26:42] * Isarra huggles csteipp. [18:26:46] 03(mod) Messages of log entries should support GENDER - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24156 +comment (10Nemo) [18:28:04] 03(mod) Messages of log entries should support GENDER - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24156 +need-volunteer (10Nemo) [18:28:19] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Implemented initial version of removeclaim API" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34341 [18:28:19] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Got rid of ApiResult object in Serializers" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34308 [18:28:19] 03(NEW) Wrong order in history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42296 normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (fomafix) [18:28:36] 03(NEW) do not list self tranclusion as updated template on the template page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42297 normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (umherirrender_de.wp) [18:29:26] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Implemented initial version of removeclaim API" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34341 [18:30:03] New review: Platonides; "Right, but I thought someone would then assume that I had ?forgotten? to merge it, instead of that I..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30994 [18:31:01] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improved serialization for Claim and Statement and the objects they are composed of" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34298 [18:31:01] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added extra tests for new serialization methods" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34299 [18:32:09] 03(mod) Time separator for Slovene - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40942 +comment (10Domen) [18:32:34] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Limit ttmserver query processing time to avoid timeouts" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34342 [18:34:10] anomie: chrismcmahon: I have a question about the beta cluster .... I look at stuff like https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=QA_and_testing/Labs_plan&oldid=534857 and I know that's 6 months old but I'm not sure where to find that kind of stuff now - are you putting it all on the [[Beta cluster]] page? [18:34:31] 03(mod) Wrong order in history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42296 +comment (10Krenair) [18:35:07] 03(mod) Wrong order in history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42296 +comment (10Krenair) [18:35:11] sumanah- I have no idea, sorry [18:35:53] ok. anomie you might be interested in browsing https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA_and_testing , https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_cluster , https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Continuous_integration , and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Browser_testing which I just added some more info to [18:35:59] New review: Reedy; "18:21:55 [exec] PHP Fatal error: Class 'DumpPipeOutput' not found in /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Med..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34340 [18:37:14] sumanah: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_cluster is probably better for now [18:37:28] 03(mod) Wrong order in history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42296 +comment (10Umherirrender) [18:37:31] sumanah: I think there's one other place that hashar maintains, looking [18:38:35] Well, I see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hashar [18:38:52] in there, I don't see any additional stuff that looks to be about the beta cluster [18:39:29] Is it possible that refreshLinks.php might run a computer out of memory and crash it? [18:40:00] there's [[Deployment overview]] on labsconsole [18:42:10] 03(mod) String matching in #ask should incorporate redirect titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20620 +comment (10Markus Krötzsch) [18:42:15] also, anomie & chrismcmahon , ok for me to update https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_cluster#Roles to say that anomie is replacing Sam as backup dev? [18:42:21] maybe I'm wrong, that's the impression I got [18:42:39] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 42064) Change getText to getContent in AbuseFilter" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34314 [18:43:38] sumanah- You'd probably want to check with robla [18:44:27] okay [18:50:09] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34298 [18:51:44] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34316 [18:55:28] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34080 [18:55:58] 03(mod) Maximum execution time exceeded: Levenshtein too slow we guess... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41208 (10Nemo) [18:55:59] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Nemo) [19:03:26] hello, one question [19:03:43] (how) can i import a wordpress xml to mediawiki? [19:04:06] hi st-fl [19:04:08] !import [19:04:08] To import pages a few pages, use Special:Import - you can also import pages directly from another wiki (see !importsources). For mass imports, use importDump.php - see for details. NOTE: when using content from another wiki, follow the LICENSE TERMS, especially, attribute source and authors! [19:04:18] hmmm, from WordPress [19:04:23] yes [19:04:39] so, you want to turn all those blog posts into wiki pages? [19:04:45] there might be a specialized converter, I don't know [19:04:56] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 40632) Remove CleanupPresentationalAttributes feature" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34345 [19:04:58] i tried http://www.ehow.com/how_12199946_convert-wordpress-mediawiki.html but it gives me a php error in importDumps.php [19:05:31] What's the error? [19:06:05] Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or T_FUNCTION or T_VAR or '}' in /mediawiki/maintenance/importDump.php on line 75
[19:06:17] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks how can i figure out what hooks are exported? i'm trying to figure out how to change the layout of the page you see when viewing a category. i assume this requires an extension that hooks in? [19:06:29] st-fl: What does php --version say? [19:06:44] New patchset: Cmcmahon; "add en.m.wikipedia.org for mobile base url" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34346 [19:06:48] shoould be 5.4 [19:07:25] Should. Oftentimes, on the command line, 'php' mysteriously turns out to be PHP 4.x, and in that case you need 'php5' instead [19:07:49] oh yes. true O_O [19:08:00] it says 4.4.9 – how can i fix that?! [19:08:19] see if you have a php5 binary? [19:08:21] st-fl: Instead of 'php whatever', use 'php5 whatever' [19:09:20] it looks like hooks are more for actions, rather than when something is displayed.. i do see the full list on that page now [19:09:35] is changing how the category list page is displayed something that can be done through a skin? [19:09:37] RoanKattouw: aha, interesting. now the error is that one include path cannot be found :D [19:10:00] ec2-user: There are lots of different hooks you can use for different things. What display change do you want to make? [19:10:04] (i'm not expert at all ;) actually my first time having ssh connection via terminal :D ) [19:10:10] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34345 [19:10:14] welcome to the wonderful world of ssh, st-fl :-) [19:10:21] st-fl: What's the error message? [19:10:40] btw, qgil and guillom - do you have a moment to talk about tech communications interns? [19:10:53] on the page that shows all of the articles in a category i would like to reformat that.. for one to be a list and to also not have the giant letters indicating which letter of the alphabet each article starts with [19:10:58] 03(FIXED) Kill $wgCleanupPresentationalAttributes from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40632 -patch-in-gerrit ; +comment (10Krinkle) [19:11:11]
[19:11:13] Warning: require_once(__DIR__/Maintenance.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /mediawiki/maintenance/importDump.php on line 27
[19:11:15] i see a hook called CategoryPageView is that what I'm looking for [19:11:15]
[19:11:16] Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required '__DIR__/Maintenance.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php5') in /mediawiki/maintenance/importDump.php on line 27
[19:11:17] sumanah: ^^ I'd still rather keep Sam as the backup. Brad's involvement is mainly to learn the ropes right now, not permanent involvement in that work. [19:11:19] ec2-user: Right, you'll probably need that hook there [19:11:21] 03(FIXED) Don't use hacks to replicate a browser function, either let align="" pass through or not; in HTML5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40329 +comment (10Krinkle) [19:11:31] wtf, no __DIR__ ? [19:11:34] ok, thanks robla - should Brad be in that Roles section at all? [19:11:47] sumanah, guillom I have a lunch meeting in 20 minutes but later today is good [19:11:48] st-fl: What does php5 --version say? [19:11:54] sumanah: nah, no more than anyone else in eng [19:11:58] ok, thanks robla [19:12:16] ok, no prob qgil [19:12:21] everyone who does deploys will need to get proficient at deploying to beta [19:12:25] damn, no >=5.3 :( only 5.2.17 :D [19:12:40] Yeah :( __DIR__ was introduced in PHP 5.3.0 [19:12:58] perkele :D [19:13:03] sumanah, guillom I'll ping you as soon as I'm back [19:13:04] thanks!! [19:13:33] so what can i do? is there another (browser-based) way? [19:14:36] 03(mod) LinkCache doesn't currently know about this title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37209 +platformeng (10Niklas Laxström) [19:15:15] or how can i upgrade my »binary php«? O_o [19:15:46] If you don't own the server you probably cannot upgrade PHP yourself [19:17:44] hm, i'm confused :D i thought i had a php 5.4 running :D and mediawiki 1.20.0 itself works fine [19:18:05] [[special:version says: [19:18:07] MediaWiki 1.20.0 [19:18:08] PHP 5.4.8 (cgi-fcgi) [19:18:15] O.o [19:18:54] ha [19:19:03] But the PHP on the command line is older [19:19:05] That's weird [19:19:24] If you type php then press Tab twice (i.e. php[TAB][TAB]), what do you see? [19:20:06] php php-config php-config5 php-config6 php4 php5 php6 phpize phpize5 phpize6 [19:20:21] New patchset: Krinkle; "Upstream: Sync with mediawiki/core (c5b4135)." [test/mediawiki/core2] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34347 [19:20:36] sumanah: qgil: it's 8:20pm here and I'd like to avoid working now. [19:20:40] ok, no prob [19:20:44] I'll email y'all [19:20:47] ok [19:22:38] New patchset: Mwalker; "Amazon Audit Grace Period" [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34348 [19:22:56] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[Score][Solarium] Dark deployed on WMF cluster" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34349 [19:23:04] 03(mod) Configure MathJax for en.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42061 (10benson_muite) [19:23:10] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34349 [19:26:04] RoanKattouw: php6 --version prints PHP 5.4.8 (cgi-fcgi), so i try with php6 … [19:26:14] lol [19:28:34] 03(FIXED) is missing in round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41229 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [19:31:24] RoanKattouw: but then: require_once(): Failed opening required 'includes/AuthPlugin.php' :D [19:31:54] st-fl: Could you pastebin the full error message? [19:31:58] cause there is in fact no php6 on the server so it doesnt find .:/usr/lib/php6 [19:32:00] yes :D [19:32:23] Warning: require_once(includes/AuthPlugin.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /mediawiki/extensions/AuthWP.php on line 32
[19:32:25]
[19:32:27] Fatal error: require_once(): Failed opening required 'includes/AuthPlugin.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php6') in /mediawiki/extensions/AuthWP.php on line 32
[19:32:42] 03(mod) Give (potential) extension tags a high syntactical precedence - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40604 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [19:33:40] Change merged: Krinkle; [test/mediawiki/core2] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34347 [19:34:00] 03(mod) Set $wgUseMathJax = true on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31406 (10benson_muite) [19:34:29] Change merged: Katie Horn; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34259 [19:34:53] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Updated js store of datatype definitions" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34352 [19:36:01] ^demon: so did our friend on wikitech-l get moderated? [19:36:22] yes [19:36:36] <^demon> Can we not discuss it, please. [19:40:08] AGH! Wikipedia did it! It's not just 1.20! [19:40:17] Side of the page is all wrong! [19:40:21] * Isarra flails vaguely. [19:40:29] Isarra: where? what? [19:40:53] My computer is too slow to understand the fancy css used to position the content in the vector skin some of the time. [19:41:24] 03(FIXED) PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 1 in extensions/SemanticDrilldown/includes/SD_FilterValue.php on line 30 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40811 +comment (10Yaron Koren) [19:42:00] Isarra: there was an ugly bug that would sometimes cause the page text not to be sanitized properly. it was fixed, but maybe it actually wasn't, so i'm asking. [19:42:56] Everything is fine except for the left side of the content div. [19:43:05] Which just doesn't always wind up in quite the right place. [19:43:42] Sometimes it winds up all the way to the left under the sidebar, sometimes it winds up in the middle of the sidebar, or slightly too much toward it... [19:44:02] 03(mod) Using SD to browse subobjects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31271 summary; +comment (10Yaron Koren) [19:48:25] Why would this happen on logs in particular? [19:48:33] Is there something special about logs? [19:49:06] Change merged: Zfilipin; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34336 [19:50:00] Do logs cache differently? [19:50:10] Or not at all? [19:50:17] Are there geese involved? [19:53:04] New patchset: Krinkle; "Asserting jshint works and detects error" [test/mediawiki/core2] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34355 [19:53:42] hashar: hashar_: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-GIT-Fetching%20(testing)/13/console [19:53:44] wee [19:53:51] k, dinner now 4real [19:56:05] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34081 [20:03:10] 03(NEW) Handle percent-encoding in MWInternalLinkAnnotation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42298 normal; VisualEditor: Data Model; (roan.kattouw) [20:03:19] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Handle percent-encoding in MWInternalLinkAnnotation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42298 summary (10Roan Kattouw) [20:05:47] 03(mod) Messages of log entries should support GENDER - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24156 +platformeng (10Siebrand) [20:09:47] New patchset: Bsitu; "Add global default email footer message" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30066 [20:10:49] 03(mod) Enable $wgAllowCopyUploads (upload by URL) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20512 +comment (10Krenair) [20:12:09] bsitu, is that text still not approved? [20:13:18] Krenair: not yet, fabrice just sent an email to legal yesterday [20:16:23] sumanah ... and now X-Chat is back as well :) [20:16:38] :) [20:18:17] hashar: did you succeed on not falling from the bike? [20:18:31] Nikerabbit: indeed :-] [20:18:41] Nikerabbit: I have been using a bicycle daily for a few years now [20:18:47] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "New version: 1.2.4" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34358 [20:18:50] just like I did when I was a teenager :-] [20:18:58] Change abandoned: Cmcmahon; "(no reason)" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34346 [20:19:04] hashar: commuting? [20:19:16] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34358 [20:19:17] Nikerabbit: yup [20:19:33] Hey I've been trying to go around this like crazy to no avail, but how can I add my to my mediawiki head? [20:19:33] hashar: it's not that handy when you work on the next room ;( [20:19:40] I got custom skin going on. [20:19:56] New patchset: Cmcmahon; "better naming, good suggestion" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34361 [20:20:07] hi Kafetist - what version of MediaWiki are you using? [20:20:13] hashar: is it possible to programmatically trigger jenkins on custom branches/tags on gerrit? [20:20:14] also, lemme point you to a few resources [20:20:18] 03(mod) Cannot parse the Fila PCN template from es.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39520 (10ssastry) [20:20:19] !skinning | Kafetist [20:20:19] Kafetist : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skins>. Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: http://blog.redwerks.org/2012/02/08/mediawiki-skinning-tutorial/ and the historical archive [20:20:35] 1.19 sumanah [20:20:38] I [20:20:59] I've got the whole shebang done except I just am not able to get my google fonts to work [20:21:10] they just require extra couple lines in the head [20:21:27] Nikerabbit: we can trigger on branch creation / new tag [20:21:32] Nikerabbit: never tested it myself though [20:21:59] I added them to Resources.php, also tried $out->addStyle but I get zero results [20:22:02] hashar: context: I'm trying to figure out how to best integrate testing in our extension bundle release process [20:22:23] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34082 [20:23:28] Kafetist: Don't alter core files, including Resources.php, that is never needed and usually doesn't work. [20:23:52] Change abandoned: Krinkle; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki/core2] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34355 [20:24:08] Well I have a *new* skin, and supposedly *in* Resources.php you define which css files your newly creater skin uses? [20:24:08] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Handle percent-encoding in MWInternalLinkAnnotation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42298 (10James Forrester) [20:24:31] 03(mod) Update change tag indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40867 +comment (10Asher Feldman) [20:24:32] How else would I go about doing this? [20:25:01] This is my skin in Resources.php: http://pastebin.com/8yFb7AZ6 [20:25:48] but due to the http:// stuff it errors out [20:26:16] $out->addScript( "" ); [20:26:19] did nothing [20:26:26] in Nuapro.php [20:27:03] I understand you're telling me to use MediaWiki:Mycustomskin.css to do all my editing? [20:27:14] Why is there no option for 'slow' or 'crap' or such for hardware in bugzilla? [20:27:20] 03(NEW) use aggregate data rather than individual contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42299 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ContributionReporting; (spam) [20:28:21] is there a way to edit the element?! [20:28:38] i need help now [20:29:01] 03(NEW) Vector skin has width issues sometimes on this here old buckets computer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42300 normal; MediaWiki: Interface; (zhorishna) [20:29:08] !ask | michaelwang [20:29:08] michaelwang : Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question. [20:30:04] i keep getting banned and tracked by the admin [20:30:13] :D [20:30:15] New review: Physikerwelt; "Hi TheDJ," [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23079 [20:30:35] !ask | michaelwang [20:30:35] michaelwang : Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question. [20:30:54] i keep getting baned [20:31:09] 03(NEW) Render charts using javascript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42301 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ContributionReporting; (spam) [20:31:19] There must be a way to append lines into the head element? [20:31:34] can you shutdown a wiki? [20:31:35] michaelwang: if this is a wiki that is run by the Wikimedia Foundation, then you need to go through Wikimedia processes. Otherwise, you may have no recourse. [20:32:00] michaelwang: If someone has downloaded MediaWiki and is running their own wiki, then the people in this channel have no control over it. [20:32:10] ohh [20:32:14] I personally suggest that you forget that community and move on to find friendlier places to chat. [20:33:09] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 40340) Fix cache issues with changing user groups" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24249 [20:33:14] Please, someone, my frustration about this quirk of mediawiki is driving my sanity somewhere else. [20:33:57] I am truly suffocating in this lack of knowledge, please, one of you must know how to add lines to [20:34:26] Kafetist: have you already looked at the materials I linked you to? [20:34:33] Where do i go to shutdown a wiki [20:34:36] 04(REOPENED) Large numbers of instances on a page cause browsers to hang or crash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42071 +comment (10Jan Gerber) [20:34:42] Yes, through and through, sumanah, and few more. [20:35:01] michaelwang: You would go to the system administrator of that wiki. [20:35:14] Kafetist: but you will probably fail. [20:35:15] but the admin is my friend [20:35:23] sorry, I mean michaelwang, you will probably fail. [20:35:40] Kafetist: ok. You might want to ask the mediawiki-l list in case people in here are a bit busy. [20:35:43] !lists | Kafetist [20:35:43] Kafetist : mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [20:35:51] Where can i get a internet lawyer? [20:36:16] hello [20:36:18] Can we force js developers to use ten-year-old computers for a week? [20:36:20] Please? [20:36:22] Umh, I have never used a mailing list.. [20:36:31] michaelwang: How old are you? [20:36:42] Kafetist: there's a first time for everything! [20:36:56] i am 20 years old [20:37:26] hello [20:37:37] Isarra: fun fact: you can turn off nearly all interface animations using a simple trick [20:37:51] Isarra: just add "$.fx.off = true" to your common.js [20:37:55] 03(mod) Implicit end tag rt code sometimes eats explicit end tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42251 (10ssastry) [20:37:58] Isarra: (minus the quotes, of course) [20:38:21] michaelwang: Honestly, you are acting like a child who has never been denied anything in his life. Sorry to be harsh. [20:38:21] this makes things like collapsed recentchanges/watchlist almost bearable [20:38:28] 03(mod) Implicit end tag rt code sometimes eats explicit end tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42251 (10ssastry) [20:38:39] i am a child [20:38:46] michaelwang: Sometimes other people don't want you around. If you don't get invited to someone's house, or to a party, or people won't let you in their wiki anymore, sometimes you have to deal with that. [20:39:09] MatmaRex: It wasn't the animations that were the problem, just the sheer inefficient bloat everywhere. [20:39:11] can i have the form to whine [20:39:15] And so much of it shouldn't even be js at all. [20:39:21] michaelwang: No. And please go away. [20:39:27] I had to turn it all off just so I could see pages. [20:39:37] This is a channel where we discuss the MediaWiki software and help build it. [20:39:53] the channel is not for whing [20:41:03] how can i start a wiki [20:42:02] Isarra: which parts in particular? it might as well be enwiki bloat [20:42:12] Thank you Reedy [20:42:33] Some of it was enwp bloat, some was mediawiki bloat, some was random other bloat... [20:42:39] I dunno, it's just slow. [20:42:48] I can scroll faster with it off. [20:43:06] This is after everything is done rendering and all. Just things waiting and whatnot... [20:43:10] * Isarra flails. [20:43:26] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "refactor changes metadata stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33319 [20:44:11] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "less code!" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33319 [20:44:35] Isarra: you're using Opera, right? [20:44:44] Kafetist: You can add lines to the yes. What are you trying to add, exactly? [20:44:49] Yeah. [20:45:00] Only thing that'll even mostly work. [20:45:23] well, yeah, sometimes pages just are too big [20:45:30] Kafetist: The function you probably want is $out->addHeadItem( 'some name', 'html goes here' ); [20:45:40] but it could also be somebody setting an expesive event handler to the scroll event [20:46:03] Isarra: have you ever user Opera's Dragonfly debugger? it's fun [20:46:06] used* [20:46:12] It requires javascript. [20:46:14] >.> [20:46:39] duh. [20:46:47] 2012-11-20T20:45:32 Alpedio (talk | contribs) marked Abel Trujillo for deletion with speedy deletion-no content tag [20:46:52] log_params! [20:46:56] * Isarra flails and runs away. [20:47:13] RoanKattouw: thank god someone [20:47:34] Kafetist: Sorry, I would respond earlier but I was distractd [20:47:35] RoanKattouw: I'm trying to add elements for google fonts [20:47:49] I see [20:48:04] There's probably something else you can use then [20:48:33] Kafetist: $out->addExtensionStyle( 'URL to .css file' ); [20:48:37] Kafetist: btw mailing lists are pretty useful and on mediawiki-l most people with problems get responses -- check http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/ for examples. [20:48:46] That'll generate a tag for a given CSS URL [20:48:54] oh, nice [20:49:02] where is all of this documented? [20:49:05] You would put that code in a BeforePageDisplay hook [20:49:09] Not very well [20:49:15] OutputPage.php class docs, I suppose? [20:49:19] MatmaRex: I guess my point in all of this is just that folks expect users to be using the same shiny new hardware they are, but... but we ain't! [20:49:24] uhh yeah :) [20:49:32] The real answer is "nowhere where you could possibly find it if you didn't know where to look" [20:49:36] :S [20:49:39] btw Kafetist you might enjoy coming to one of our tech chats [20:49:43] ilonak: Hey, how's it going? [20:49:50] Kafetist: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2012-11-29 for example next week [20:50:33] Isarra: i feel you, the most powerful hardware in my house is my thinkpad T60, and i've basically just bought it [20:50:36] Change merged: Amire80; [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33322 [20:50:38] also Kafetist we strongly encourage you to improve the documentation on mediawiki.org even if all you do is add a message to the talk apge saying "if someone has time, please integrate this fact I just learned" [20:50:59] RoanKattouw, is after this line: $out->addStyle( 'nuapro/IE70Fixes.css', 'screen', 'IE 7' ); in "class SkinNuapro extends SkinTemplate {" good place? [20:51:46] Yes [20:52:21] MatmaRex: So fancy... [20:52:34] I've had my skin done to almost full specs in just one day (and a little background work), for the last two hours I've tried to solve this [20:52:48] TBH, little scared to test if it works ;) [20:53:14] Actually, that thing looks like my laptop. O_o [20:53:27] New review: MarkTraceur; "Hmm...." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33862 [20:53:27] Change merged: MarkTraceur; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33862 [20:54:06] Isarra: i tihnk it's from 2005 or so [20:54:23] Works like a charm! Thanks RoanKattouw, thanks sumanah, I can finally rest. My skin is done precisely according to initial specs. [20:54:28] YAY [20:54:35] Kafetist: you'll be putting it in the gallery on mediawiki.org ? [20:54:40] 03(FIXED) Flickr interface doesn't show up error dialog in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42223 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [20:54:44] Same with my laptop! Well, 2006ish... [20:54:50] 03(mod) IPv6 range blocks aren't working on Meta-Wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41778 +comment (10Asher Feldman) [20:54:58] But I can't use it because it has... uh... issues. >.> [20:55:13] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34410 [20:55:25] sumanah, well, why not.. [20:55:33] yay, that's the spirit :) [20:55:45] 03(mod) Amiri font for Arab lacks italics and bold causing bad rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41940 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [20:56:29] sumanah, I'll have to do further CSS editing for that tho, because some of the editor tabs are low-contrast near-white text on background color thingies [20:56:51] the stuff I wanted it to do was fully on the reader end :) [20:57:16] New patchset: Mdale; "bug 42071 -- rewrite players one at a time, include non-blocking timeout" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33210 [20:57:22] btw Kafetist there are some other folks in our community who are interested in improving MW skins [20:57:45] check out https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:mediawiki/skins/erudite,n,z [20:57:51] and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/message:cologne,n,z [20:57:55] Isarra: issues? [20:58:23] Kafetist: self-proclaimed skin-rewriter guy repoting in [20:58:23] It runs windows. >.> [20:58:28] reporting in* [20:58:31] Isarra: duh, so does mine [20:58:58] Kafetist: i'm no guru, but i learned some stuff that nobody should ever learn when i was rewritting cologneblue ;) [20:59:02] 03(mod) Large numbers of instances on a page cause browsers to hang or crash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42071 +comment (10Michael Dale) [20:59:03] I have to say, this is so different to any other CMS I've ever touched [20:59:19] MatmaRex: How can you use that? [20:59:21] ori-l once said of part of our codebase that it "grew like mold on a shower curtain" [20:59:23] I'm not saying I've touched *many*, but I've edited WordPress stuff, DokuWiki, etc. [20:59:27] It's so... inflexible! [20:59:45] New review: MarkTraceur; "It'd be great to see a new patchset, thedj! Thanks for this, and sorry about the slowness." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23007 [21:00:07] Kafetist: Daniel Friesen (Dantman) is, i think, the best expert [21:00:08] New review: Aude; "some issues (in my example, my client is enwiki):" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33319 [21:00:18] (also, a better link to my skinning work would be https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:merged+project:mediawiki/core+branch:master+topic:cologneblue-rewrite,n,z :) ) [21:00:25] as long as I am spamming you, Kafetist - http://jobs.wikimedia.org/ , https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access , https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women :-) [21:00:26] Isarra: well, i made it flexible. :P [21:00:32] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "Looks good overall. I think there is one issue that will cause wrong ID entries (comment on line 107)." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34071 [21:00:50] MatmaRex: ah, there it is! well, I sort of wanted to show that it is *in progress* but your link is generally better [21:00:53] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34372 [21:01:17] Isarra: but seriously, which parts are so inflexible? windows can be bent pretty far if you wish to [21:01:37] MatmaRex: if you ever wanted to write up "what I learned from rewriting cologneblue" as an email to mediawiki-l or wikitech-l I bet it would be really useful [21:01:46] It doesn't do what I want it to do. [21:01:50] MatmaRex: You can't fix it yourself! [21:01:58] And that. [21:02:03] And there aren't options. [21:02:16] sumanah: i think i documented some bigger SkinTemplate gotchas in the code comments there [21:02:46] cool [21:03:05] sumanah: most of what i did was pretty straightforward, it was just a pretty boring work at times, that nobody cared to do before [21:03:05] 03(FIXED) HTML element-like stuff are expanded then broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41227 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [21:03:42] marktraceur: what, windows? you can with google and the task manager ;) [21:04:04] this comes back to the process of learning again, and the usefulness of seeing from the perspective of someone who knows less than you do- like your past self :) [21:04:17] i once fixed a problem with it not starting up to desktop by firing up the task manager while the system was still starting and killing processes until the desktop appeared. no, really/ [21:04:22] . [21:04:36] MatmaRex: if you praise Windows to Mr Holmquist he may start throwing things or up [21:04:48] nah, praise would be too much [21:04:54] but it works well enoug for me [21:04:54] k ;) [21:04:56] MatmaRex: Not if there's a bug in the software, you can't [21:05:15] i was able to set up pretty much the entire linux command line environment on it. [21:05:37] marktraceur: ah, this. well, that's right, i guess [21:05:54] 03(mod) Implicit end tag rt code sometimes eats explicit end tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42251 (10ssastry) [21:08:16] alright, sumanah, checking out the links [21:08:42] I'm almost certain that I won't pass as a woman tho :) [21:09:14] Kafetist: I didn't want to assume your gender in any case [21:09:23] but perhaps you know women who are looking for internships during that period [21:10:56] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Fix message key, probably c&p error in I1cc00844" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34420 [21:11:26] damn, what is the gerrit keyword for searching through commit messages [21:11:30] i was sure there is one [21:11:31] MatmaRex: message: ? [21:11:34] sumanah, located in UK or where? [21:11:38] ah [21:11:40] yeah [21:11:42] Kafetist: Telecommuting [21:11:45] thanks, sumanah [21:12:00] MatmaRex: glad to help! I use it a lot. I also use project: and status: [21:12:11] MatmaRex: I should reread https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/Documentation/user-search.html -- regexes will be a little tricky [21:12:17] MatmaRex: would it be more preferrable to include all css dependencies in the skin file rather than the resources.php [21:13:16] Kafetist: the headquarters of the Wikimedia Foundation is in San Francisco so if people were already in the area they could come in and work in person, but otherwise I presume it would be telecommuting [21:13:32] people in England might be interested in visiting the headquarters of the independent affiliated chapter, Wikimedia UK [21:13:33] New patchset: Krinkle; "Lint: REL1_20 js." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34421 [21:13:44] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34410 [21:14:02] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34420 [21:14:46] Kafetist: i'm not sure i understand. there is the setupSkinUserCss() function, inside of which you can set up various stuff, including styles, by using either $out->addModuleStyles() (for ones defined as RL modules) or $out->addStyle() (for regular files) [21:15:21] Kafetist: i think that creating RL modules and using them is currently the preferred way [21:15:39] Yeah I read somewhere that I need to have like $out->addModuleStyles( 'skins.nuapro' ); and then go to resources.php and THEN someone told me it's a crime, since it's core file. [21:16:09] New patchset: Katie Horn; "Both killing a notice that was always popping up on error, and displaying gateway errors to the user for yandex." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34422 [21:16:16] it'd be good if you could pinpoint the place where you read the original direction [21:16:19] so it can be updated [21:16:22] Kafetist: there's certainly a way to register RL modules from elsewhere, but i don't know how exactly you would do it right now [21:16:43] Kafetist: have you tried to look at how other standalone skins do this? [21:16:48] is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_%28users%29/Tutorial or https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_for_extension_developers useful? [21:16:55] (or extensions?) [21:18:24] sumanah: so about the rewrite - unfortunately i'm afraid that the things i learned are really mostly applicable to rewriting cologneblue again ;) (or maybe pther legacy skins). one big gotcha was documented in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29422/ , another was a tiny little bug i fixed in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/26819/ , last one was https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/26808/ - and i'd say that's it [21:18:41] sumanah: i also learned that legacy skins have some very hairy code inside. ;) [21:18:54] Change merged: Pgehres; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34422 [21:18:59] MatmaRex: I think if they're applicable to rewriting other legacy skins, then that is important to hundreds of people who wrote skins 2001-2010 :-) [21:18:59] 03(mod) $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges should not send e-mail to user who made the edit. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33880 +comment (10Michael Jennings) [21:19:00] not enough to write up about :) [21:19:16] then I'll do it [21:19:25] * sumanah starts writing [21:19:59] sumanah: all or most of the ugly things there were probably caused by lack of a standardised interface like the SkinTemplate [21:20:06] * sumanah copies and pastes [21:20:08] 03(mod) Message definition missing on pages in custom namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42290 +comment (10MWUser) [21:20:10] so every skin had to reimplement basic stuff like navigation [21:21:12] and then we have code duplication, and it all being reimplemented slightly differently in SkinTemplate, and legacy skins not supporting new hooks, because nobody cared [21:21:16] but that's the usual story. [21:22:29] Is "Bartosz Dziewoski" ok? [21:22:37] * sumanah might be missing a diacritic [21:22:52] 03(NEW) Thumbnails of images with "+" in filename do not show - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42302 major; MediaWiki: File management; (lupo.bugzilla) [21:23:15] New review: Hoo man; "re to CSteipp" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33971 [21:23:48] 03(mod) Message definition missing on pages in custom namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42290 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [21:24:48] ok, sent [21:25:53] New review: Raimond Spekking; "c&p error in i18n file fixed with I4400ceed" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33796 [21:26:18] New review: Krinkle; "Passes jshint on jenkins (see link). Merging to allow pending changes to be rebased on this." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34421 [21:26:20] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34421 [21:26:56] New review: Krinkle; "Abandon, kthx" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28944 [21:27:26] sumanah: yes, missing diacritic [21:27:51] I'm sorry. [21:27:51] sumanah: it's "Dziewoński" with an "n" - "n" with an acute accent [21:27:55] Aha! [21:28:07] sumanah: sorry, i was afk for a minute [21:28:13] an "ń" * [21:28:14] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Updated js store of datatype definitions" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34352 [21:28:36] Change abandoned: Catrope; "Abandoning per submitter's request" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28944 [21:28:50] Change abandoned: Catrope; "Abandoning per submitter's request" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28296 [21:29:17] sumanah: into what database have you just put me? ;) [21:29:24] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Fix typo, spotted by Siebrand" [mediawiki/extensions/Hanp] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34423 [21:29:45] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/Hanp] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34423 [21:30:05] MatmaRex: :-) I did note the spelling of your name for my own use later, but also accidentally misspelled it on mediawiki-l -- I credited you with what you said & did [21:30:23] Change merged: Katie Horn; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34238 [21:31:32] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 1 in extensions/SemanticDrilldown/includes/SD_FilterValue.php on line 30 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40811 +comment (10Jamie Thingelstad) [21:31:39] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Remove period from end of description message" [mediawiki/extensions/HostStats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34425 [21:31:49] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/HostStats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34425 [21:31:51] sumanah: thanks :) [21:32:03] sumanah: these polish diacritics are notoriously hard to get right [21:32:38] MatmaRex: I've never known what the difference in pronunciation is between n and ń [21:32:48] I'm sorry -- both GMail and Thunderbird just went "?" [21:32:55] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34426 [21:33:01] ...to the extent that I even know how to pronounce Polish at all ^^ [21:33:24] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34426 [21:33:28] RoanKattouw_away: there are a few characters in polsih with an acute accent: ń ś ć ź - they're mostly just pronounced more "softly" than the "regular" ones [21:33:58] RoanKattouw_away: if you have an english "s" and an english "sh", which is "harder" than s [21:34:06] then "ś" is softer than s [21:34:21] (there is actually a "sz" in polish, as well, pronounced like english "sh") [21:34:36] we have a Tomasz in our ranks [21:34:38] and a Juliusz [21:34:55] and there's Marcin [21:34:57] RoanKattouw_away: i think there are some pronounciations recorded on commons :) [21:35:02] I see [21:35:13] and i'm a Bartosz. we just love ours "sz"s [21:35:19] Oh I know [21:35:37] "My name is Lińus Torvalds and I pronounce Lińux as Lińux" <----- parallel universe where all geeks can pronounce ń correctly [21:35:44] * RoanKattouw_away remembers Szczecin and Wrzeszcz (sp?) [21:35:55] spelling correct :) [21:36:05] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 1 in extensions/SemanticDrilldown/includes/SD_FilterValue.php on line 30 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40811 +comment (10Jamie Thingelstad) [21:36:31] "wrzeszcz" is a vocative 2nd person singular for "scream!" :) [21:36:31] I guess that explains why I never heard a difference between n and ń, I don't speak any languages fluently that have a "softer n" sound [21:36:33] * paulproteus waves to siebrand [21:36:47] * siebrand smiles at paulproteus  [21:36:49] RoanKattouw_away: spanish has, as in "Nińo" :) [21:36:51] RoanKattouw_away: pronounce "lasagna" [21:36:52] saper: Isn't it also a town in the Gdańsk area? [21:36:55] RoanKattouw_away: it's that sound [21:36:56] (I was talking with you about MW stuff on -i18n, but here is totally a better venue. I was enjoying the -i18n small-town feel, but...) (-: [21:37:04] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Updated js store of datatype definitions" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34352 [21:37:04] RoanKattouw_away: the "ń" is like the "gn" there [21:37:04] RoanKattouw_away: correct, it's a district of Gdańsk [21:37:05] oh it's like the n with a tilde on top in Spanish? [21:37:12] saper: Aaaah that makes sense. Yeah to me ǹ sounds like 'nj' [21:37:14] Ah [21:37:16] ñ [21:37:17] sumanah: it's the same [21:37:51] So a bit ago, we were talking a while ago about the MW install docs I wrote. They are here: https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon/Laptop_setup . Do you want to skim my instructions and tell me if they're truly suitable for mediawiki.org? I mean, I guess it is a wiki, I could just do it myself. I kind of want some review before I stomp all over the official install docs, though. (-: [21:37:59] and all others (śćź) follow the pattern, as well as when they are followed by "i" and... (asdsajdkh3uri3hfuew19134131!#$%#!%) [21:38:46] qgil: take a look at paulproteus's question above? ^ [21:38:51] It probably makes sense to re-order them a little bit; the IRC stuff isn't as crucial, for example, to new peeps. [21:38:54] RoanKattouw_away: fun fact: "ǹ" (the one you typed) is not "ń" – i don't know what it is, but it's not the same characters, the accent is always slanted top-right to bottom-left :) [21:38:55] Oh hi qgil! (-: [21:39:16] (I'm Asheesh. I like sending emails. You may have received some from me!) [21:39:39] MatmaRex: I was trying to type ñ and forgot to hold Shift [21:40:22] shift? that's a keyboard layout i've never heard of :) [21:40:50] * MatmaRex likes linguistics [21:41:11] zing, no more qgil. [21:42:01] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31636 [21:44:02] re: my install instructions: I think I brought it up on wikitech-l in the past and people just said be bold. So maybe I'll send one last email saying I'm going to be bold, and then just be bold. (-: [21:45:01] * sumanah approves, in general [21:45:38] 03(mod) Documentation is out of date, incomplete (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:45:39] 03(mod) document Jenkins Job Builder - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42293 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:46:14] MatmaRex: On my keyboard (US-104) I have to use right Alt + ~ , then type 'n'. And ~ is Shift+` , so right Alt + Shift + ` followed by n [21:46:27] Welcome to a keyboard layout that is not at all optimized for accented characters :D [21:46:50] RoanKattouw_away: :) [21:48:00] RoanKattouw_away: another fun fact: I think the Polish keyboard layout is basically the only latin-like layout that doesn't use separate keys for accented characters. we just use AltGr + basic char. (or tilde (=shift+`), then basic char) [21:48:16] i guess it;s because there are just too many of them. [21:48:38] or maybe it was cheaper in the nineties and it just stuck. [21:49:11] New patchset: Nemo bis; "(bug 35031) Change decimal separators for numbers in Kurdish" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34427 [21:50:08] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Updated js store of datatype definitions" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34352 [21:50:34] 03(mod) Change decimal separators for numbers in Kurdish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35031 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Nemo) [21:51:05] 03(NEW) blocking large IPv4 ranges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42303 normal; MediaWiki: User blocking; (rbeelaard) [21:52:21] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Updated js store of datatype definitions" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34352 [21:53:06] 03(NEW) Allow moving of an article when some user tries to create dummy versions in a redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42304 normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (dixond) [21:53:24] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Updated js store of datatype definitions" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34352 [22:00:57] New patchset: Nemo bis; "(bug 34977) Change Spanish formatnum behavior" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34429 [22:02:22] 03(mod) Change Spanish formatnum behavior - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34977 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Nemo) [22:04:22] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34431 [22:05:04] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34431 [22:06:06] 03(mod) All query pages (maintenance reports) updates are broken in 1.21wmf3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42152 +comment (10Dennis C. During) [22:07:16] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Added support for changing headers on existing objects." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29769 [22:07:16] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] [FileBackend] Added support for custom file headers." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34249 [22:08:52] 03(NEW) UW flickr upload doesn't recognize static flickr links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42305 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (lupo.bugzilla) [22:11:49] TimStarling: maybe you can look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/34249/4 [22:12:43] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Integration fails if an article has an '@' character in its title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42306 minor; VisualEditor: Initialisation and integration; (jforrester) [22:12:57] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Integration fails if an article has an '@' character in its title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42306 (10James Forrester) [22:13:03] 03(NEW) UW Flickr upload does not honor flickr user blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42307 major; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (lupo.bugzilla) [22:13:10] ok [22:14:00] are you making that disposition parameter obsolete already? [22:14:18] I haven't mark it as such [22:14:21] I guess I probably should have picked that when I reviewed it [22:15:19] strlen( $value ) > 255, quite a small limit [22:15:44] even smaller than swift's URL limit [22:15:56] but equal to swifts header limits [22:16:06] I figured [22:16:28] anyway, I don't think we will need long headers for anything soon, but it can always be lifted later if so [22:16:33] maybe they are just setting arbitrary limits based on what they think normally goes in a header [22:16:36] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 40340) Fix cache issues with changing user groups" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24249 [22:16:54] TimStarling: it was for billing reasons and laziness...people were stuffing lots of data in headeres [22:17:07] I guess they could have just accounted for that, but thought it easier to use low limits [22:17:09] heh [22:17:24] probably ceph doesn't have such silly limits [22:17:36] but most of what we would set would be short anyway, like numbers [22:17:45] disposition is the only long one [22:19:20] 03(NEW) UW flickr uploader uses current time as "date created", not time as reported by Flickr - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42308 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (lupo.bugzilla) [22:19:59] right, titles can be 255 bytes [22:20:03] 03(mod) All query pages (maintenance reports) updates are broken in 1.21wmf3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42152 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [22:20:26] and with the encoding it could be 3x that [22:20:59] quartets lol [22:21:01] it has a bit of special handling in swift [22:21:16] well, I suppose triplet was a funny word to start with [22:21:33] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34432 [22:21:47] * AaronSchulz was continuing the tradition of Starlingisms [22:22:13] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34432 [22:22:49] 03(mod) UW Flickr upload does not honor flickr user blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42307 +comment (10Krenair) [22:23:03] New patchset: Krinkle; "Example commit for jshint error" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34433 [22:23:35] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuple#Names_for_tuples_of_specific_length [22:23:42] 03(NEW) UW flickr uploader does not suggest categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42309 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (lupo.bugzilla) [22:23:57] triplet is mentioned in the text as a synonym of triple [22:24:08] * AaronSchulz waits for tim to amend that :) [22:24:15] I wonder what people would think if you used quadruple as a noun [22:24:18] see this is why we do code review folks [22:24:22] :) [22:24:52] what would cause an unprotected page to not show the edit link for a user who has edit rights? [22:25:26] $options = isset( $triplet[3] ) ? $triplet[3] : array(); [22:25:40] warning warning incongruity detected [22:25:51] does not compute [22:25:53] what you call it $ntuple? [22:25:57] 03(NEW) UW flickr uploader does not extract geoinformation from Flickr images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42310 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (lupo.bugzilla) [22:26:14] very flexible [22:26:59] you can change it in a dependent commit if you want to change it, because I'm probably going to merge this pretty soon [22:27:26] 03(mod) $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges should not send e-mail to user who made the edit. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33880 +comment (10Mark Clements (HappyDog)) [22:28:04] ok [22:29:04] * AaronSchulz hopes Tim doesn't discover quickImportBatch() [22:32:22] 03(NEW) UW flickr uploader disappears completely upon input of invalid URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42311 major; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (lupo.bugzilla) [22:32:41] TimStarling: if you have a sec: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/33816/. wondering if you think it's right. (it's about the relative / absolute expiry ambiguity in MBOS's fixEpiry()) [22:33:43] fixExpiry, even. [22:33:44] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34249 [22:33:54] AaronSchulz: I didn't [22:35:05] ori-l: no, it's wrong [22:35:24] you want comments here or on the change? [22:35:37] whichever [22:36:35] what you call "outright stupidity" is pretty common and is usually caused by configuration, not by developers [22:36:46] but even developers can't be expected to know that memcached is broken in this way [22:36:59] and why should we present such a broken interface to callers anyway? [22:37:36] if a caller asks for an expiry of 6 months, we should just implement that [22:37:47] 03(mod) UW Flickr upload does not honor flickr user blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42307 +comment (10Lupo) [22:38:04] if cache stampedes are a problem, they're not going to be limited to MAX_REL_EXPIRY, especially not after this patch [22:38:07] 03(mod) UW Flickr upload does not honor flickr user blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42307 +comment (10Lupo) [22:38:11] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] Quashed melodious 4-tuples into silence." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34436 [22:38:15] hi [22:38:18] there's no reason to think that value is especially commonly used [22:38:55] we could add a fuzz to all expiry values over some threshold, say spread them out over an hour when the expiry is over a week [22:39:22] that would kind of make sense, but this change just breaks the interface and doesn't do anything for cache stampedes except when the configuration happens to be set to 30 days [22:39:33] 03(mod) Update change tag indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40867 +comment (10Asher Feldman) [22:40:19] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34436 [22:40:22] TimStarling: it just seems wrong to guess. having an additional boolean parameter that the caller uses to indicate if the expiry is to be interpreted as relative or absolute seems fairer [22:40:35] it's too late for that [22:40:38] "Why can't one use a MediaWiki message for this, which would contain the name of the on-wiki page containing this blacklist?" [22:40:48] I know configuration-by-message is discouraged [22:41:11] and the present convention will work just fine as long as an appropriate threshold is chosen [22:41:18] But is it completely disallowed? [22:41:28] I think the assumption that if an expiry is >30 years, then it's probably absolute, is fine [22:41:34] any reason not to make it wfTimestamp( TS_UNIX ) ? [22:41:36] Relative expiries of >30 years are crazy [22:41:53] btw what is parsoid? [22:41:56] It's like a time capsule in memcached [22:42:07] And absolute timestamps pre-2000 shouldn't occur in software that started in 2003 [22:42:12] ori-l: not sure what you mean [22:42:18] Juandev: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid [22:42:36] interpret as absolute values greater or equal to the current time [22:42:49] RoanKattouw: well I red that, but still I dont know what it should be. could you give a short easy overview? [22:42:59] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Fixed doc comment grammar." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34438 [22:43:12] RoanKattouw: BagOStuff::convertExpiry() uses 10 years [22:43:32] Juandev: So do you know about VisualEditor? [22:43:44] RoanKattouw: ya [22:43:51] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34438 [22:44:10] So the current parser (the one in MediaWiki, written in PHP) doesn't provide rich enough metadata [22:44:11] and the code which ori-l is trying to fix used 1 billion seconds, which works out to 2011-09-09 [22:45:06] So Parsoid is a rewrite of the parser in JS (will be ported to C++ in 2013) that provides more information so we can actually convert the HTML back to wikitext cleanly [22:45:38] TimStarling: not 2011; 2001. [22:45:44] the comment was wrong [22:46:13] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34317 [22:46:59] RoanKattouw: so, is it because templates in wikitext? [22:47:04] TimStarling: this one is simple https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/33872/ [22:47:04] Change abandoned: Krinkle; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34433 [22:47:09] Partly that, y es [22:47:34] Juandev: But also ambiguities like '''Foo''' and Foo [22:47:48] RoanKattouw: stupidly said, parsoid will rewrite templates to HTML and editor will not see template code in WYSIWYG [22:47:49] Both render the same, right? So you need metadata somewhere telling you which variant was used in the original wikitext [22:47:55] No, that's not right [22:47:59] Not entirelyy [22:48:12] Parsoid fundamentally does the same thing as the existing parser [22:48:19] It takes wikitext and renders HTML [22:48:39] ok [22:48:51] templates are expanded at the token level currently [22:49:01] so we don't force proper nesting [22:49:06] would be trivial to do though [22:49:07] well lets see, as you planned to come up with wikieditor by the end of winter [22:49:12] The difference is that Parsoid's HTML is annotated to the point where we can round-trip it back to wikitext [22:49:17] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33872 [22:49:32] RoanKattouw: I see [22:49:36] Juandev: Yes, we're releasing it as an opt-in feature on English Wikipedia in mid-December [22:49:59] New review: Tim Starling; "-2 per IRC conversation." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33816 [22:50:04] umm, en.wp is happy, always new features first [22:51:03] but great work guys [22:51:10] New patchset: VitaliyFilippov; "Totally improved MediaWiki Import/Export engine with conflict detection, advanced page selection for export and support for exporting file data over HTTP or inside the export file." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34340 [22:51:27] I think a lot of newbies will appreciate it, even the old wikipedians are barking [22:51:59] * Juandev will appreciate it too, as it will help Wikipedia to get much more contributors [22:52:12] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Fixed inspector behavior" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34441 [22:53:42] 03(mod) Enable WebFonts for Persian Wikipedia (fa.wp) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42280 +comment (10Nemo) [22:54:14] Juandev: Our current work is already up on mediawiki.org in the VisualEditor: namespace [22:54:29] lets see [22:55:16] New review: Reedy; "[exec] PHP Fatal error: Declaration of ExportProgressFilter::closePage() must be compatible with th..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34340 [22:56:27] ^demon: are you interesting in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29769/ or should I ping tim? [22:56:56] 03(mod) More AFTv5 abuse filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42284 normal->15enhancement; summary (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [22:57:00] If I open a new page within VisualEditor ns, it push me to use wikitext anyway [22:57:11] <^demon> AaronSchulz: Not particularly... [22:58:10] Juandev: Hah, that *should* work ... [22:58:21] * AaronSchulz looks at TimStarling [22:58:30] poor old tim always gets stuck with the bill [22:58:55] Juandev: Does http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor:Test?veaction=edit work? [22:59:17] RoanKattouw: it works [22:59:19] you know I'm a Java developer today [22:59:42] TimStarling: What's the longest class name you've added? [22:59:51] Do you need some inspiration? [22:59:52] TimStarling: do you appreciate abstract diff code more now? [22:59:58] haven't quite gotten up to adding classes yet [23:00:13] RoanKattouw: but e.g. http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=VisualEditor:Dog&action=edit&redlink=1 doesnt work [23:00:14] TimStarling: what code are you looking at (e.g. link)? [23:00:28] 03(mod) UW flickr uploader does not suggest categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42309 +comment (10Lupo) [23:00:29] New patchset: VitaliyFilippov; "Totally improved MediaWiki Import/Export engine with conflict detection, advanced page selection for export and support for exporting file data over HTTP or inside the export file." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34340 [23:00:33] I have to fix lucene, it was on ops-l [23:00:47] well, I know that much [23:00:49] Juandev: It does if you click on the Create link from there (which swaps places with the watch star while the page loads; ugh). And yeah that integration is still kinda clunky [23:00:59] I haven't really had much time to work on it so far [23:01:03] I've been reviewing code [23:01:07] operations/debs/lucene-search-2, ahh [23:01:16] TimStarling: you don't say [23:01:41] RoanKattouw: I see, well its clunky (even I dont understand this word, I agree with you:-) [23:01:47] just saying, since I'm a java developer, I have to tell you that PHP is not a real language and you couldn't possibly do anything complex in it [23:02:01] <^demon> TimStarling: I got to live with those accusations all last week. [23:02:24] <^demon> Also, if you're looking for a reviewer, please feel free to toss me on. [23:02:46] it's that you couldn't possibly do anything _simple_ in it that's the problem :P [23:02:55] Juandev: It means it works about as well as a typical 15-year-old car with 300,000 miles on it [23:03:01] (a "clunker") [23:04:07] unless it is a Ford F-250 [23:04:35] ok, well maybe you could do a complex thing, but it would be awful and ugly and you should just use java [23:05:41] New review: Reedy; "Nearly there!" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34340 [23:05:49] * AaronSchulz checks out debs and it seems empty [23:05:58] 03(NEW) If a user's real name isn't specified in Flickr, no author is set for Flickr uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42312 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (rkaldari) [23:06:28] 03(mod) UW flickr uploader does not suggest categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42309 +comment (10Lupo) [23:06:29] RoanKattouw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnWKz7Cthkk [23:06:47] debs is a parent project [23:07:01] the real projects are under that [23:07:12] and not submodules either since I tried that [23:07:14] ok [23:07:26] (Hi Tim, good to see you!) [23:07:36] I guess that's what "empty parent project" generally means [23:07:47] <^demon> Indeed. [23:08:01] <^demon> Usually, such repos are setup with HEAD -> refs/meta/config. [23:08:04] <^demon> Instead of master. [23:09:03] configuration should not be done in MediaWiki: messages... right? [23:09:21] Copyright 2004 Kate Turner [23:09:25] * AaronSchulz sighs [23:09:43] old goodies :) [23:10:13] Reedy: I am totally watching that after work [23:10:30] Top Gear is worth the uk TV license fee alone [23:11:11] Krenair: usually messages have fixed names [23:11:20] 03(mod) More AFTv5 abuse filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42284 15enhancement->normal; +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [23:11:38] Hi i am inserting my interwiki links for to new wiki the links do not show up? [23:11:42] usually messages are used to customise things which are different in different languages [23:11:53] for a new wiki [23:12:05] not just to override a developer's naming decision which you don't agree with [23:12:41] I understand that [23:13:01] I have installed over 10 languages in my wiki family and never had this problem befor [23:13:10] it may only be with 1.20 [23:13:18] AaronSchulz: [23:13:19] } elseif ( $value === null && $op['op'] !== 'describe' ) { [23:13:20] trigger_error( "Header '$name: $value' has empty value." ); [23:13:28] you document that you can set the value to null to remove the header [23:13:33] but I think it will hit this warning [23:13:39] I had thought that using messages for wiki config is a bad thing and should be discouraged [23:13:49] 03(mod) If a user's real name isn't specified in Flickr, no author is set for Flickr uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42312 normal->major (10Ryan Kaldari) [23:13:59] yes, that's a good answer, use that [23:14:09] Now someone is suggesting adding another one and I'm not sure [23:14:11] 03(mod) Firefox/Iceweasel 16.0.2 crashes on specific zh.wikipedia.org page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42283 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [23:14:41] you want it in formal policy form so it makes more effective ammunition? [23:14:44] TimStarling: that could be clearer...you can only do that for 'describe' ops, otherwise yes it will warn...setting headers to null for new files doesn't make a lot of sense...though I can guess I can just silently strip them [23:15:13] 03(mod) If a user's real name isn't specified in Flickr, no author is set for Flickr uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42312 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [23:15:35] but don't describe ops go through doOperationsInternal()? [23:15:46] 03(mod) UW Flickr upload does not honor flickr user blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42307 +comment (10Krenair) [23:15:56] they do [23:16:21] so it looks like the warning will be raised even if it is a describe op [23:16:54] why? [23:17:28] * AaronSchulz checks again [23:17:35] Unless this guy basically says do it anyway, it should be ok for now, thanks [23:17:47] 03(mod) UW flickr upload doesn't recognize static flickr links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42305 +comment (10Lupo) [23:18:21] because doOperationsInternal() unconditionally calls stripInvalidHeadersFromOp() which calls trigger_error() [23:18:43] only for the things in $ops that are not 'describe' and have null [23:18:50] * AaronSchulz must be missing something [23:18:55] 03(mod) Implement a way for admins to blacklist Flickr users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42307 major->15enhancement; summary (10Krenair) [23:19:10] 03(mod) UW flickr uploader uses current time as "date created", not time as reported by Flickr - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42308 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [23:19:14] no, my fault, sorry [23:19:33] 03(mod) Hash links broken in mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41514 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [23:19:38] well it still doesn't really need a warning for other ops, so I'll amend that [23:19:41] this is what I get for reviewing in real time :) [23:20:15] usually I review offline and my stupid comments get discarded from the draft [23:20:22] so I look smarter :) [23:26:42] heh, actually the whole "null to remove" thing doesn't work...I should have checked that over sooner from J's patch [23:26:56] CF never sends X-Remove-Object-Meta- headers [23:27:31] not that I really need that feature but no point false advertising [23:27:32] 03(mod) Property values with a space in them do not work in ”not equal”-queries. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31151 +comment (10Leonard Wallentin) [23:27:38] *point in [23:28:29] 03(mod) $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges should not send e-mail to user who made the edit. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33880 +comment (10Michael Jennings) [23:35:46] New review: CSteipp; "I'll let you all work out the style stuff, but functionality (security / privacy) looks good to me." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27134 [23:37:01] Thanks for that review csteipp [23:41:02] 03(mod) Thumbnails of images with "+" in filename do not show - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42302 +comment (10Bawolff) [23:41:50] New patchset: Catrope; "Add MWEntityNode" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34444 [23:45:59] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Added support for changing headers on existing objects." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29769 [23:51:16] New review: Aaron Schulz; "See http://docs.rackspace.com/files/api/v1/cf-devguide/content/Update_Object_Metadata-d1e2338.html" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29769 [23:51:49] j^: seems ok? [23:54:13] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34445 [23:54:14] my new plesk puts subdomains in the root instead of the subdomains folder so, according to my server people i have to delete my entire wiki family and reinstall the new subdomains one by one [23:54:33] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34445 [23:54:40] plesk 10 puts /de/ in the root,, not in /subdomains/de/ anymore [23:55:44] AaronSchulz: this now always overwrites headers is that a good idea? I thought its better to have a way to add a header without knowning what headers are currently set [23:56:04] does anyone know a way around this? just moving my subdomains/de/ to /de/ wont work. [23:56:32] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Give 404 specific exceptions in sync_metadata()." [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34446 [23:57:00] j^: sync_metadata just sets new headers (and overwrites those ones mentioned that are already set) [23:57:05] it doesn't delete the old ones [23:57:15] there is now way in CF to do that at this time [23:57:39] AaronSchulz: in that case it looks ok [23:57:47] it doesn't send out the X-Remove-Object-Meta- headers [23:58:06] it would be nice to add a delete_metadata() function that clears all headers passed to it or something [23:59:02] New review: Aaron Schulz; "http://docs.rackspace.com/files/api/v1/cf-devguide/content/Update_Object_Metadata-d1e2338.html" [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34446 [23:59:02] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34446 [23:59:13] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34448 [23:59:40] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34448